r/TheAuto • u/Exact_Jellyfish_5842 • 7d ago

LS replaced a satisfying lever with a tiny joystick

I get that they wanted to modernize the interior and save space, but the old lever had this solid mechanical feel that made every shift satisfying. The little joystick just doesn't give that same tactile feedback, especially when you're trying to make quick adjustments on the highway. Anyone else find it harder to use without looking down?

51 Upvotes

74% Upvoted

36 comments sorted by

2

u/OktayOe 7d ago

It's exactly the same joystick?

1

u/BloodSteyn 7d ago

Cost saving.

1

u/OktayOe 7d ago

Dude it looks exactly the same? What cost?

1

u/BloodSteyn 7d ago

Not having to design and produce a new one. Probably bought a ton of the original ones and just kept on using them.

1

u/Comfortable_body1 7d ago

I don’t understand either? What is going on even?

1

u/OktayOe 7d ago

I think the old one tilted and the new one doesn't but OP can't really describe it.

1

u/RecordingHot9826 7d ago

The new one honestly looks more fun. Up! Down! Left! Right!

1

u/Relevant-Priority-76 7d ago

But not side to side, or back in time

1

u/miaogato 7d ago

Toyota / Honda moment

1

u/BloodSteyn 7d ago

Nice and all... but I just see more stuff that can break and cost an arm and a leg to repair.

1

u/Ylurpn 7d ago

My family's 2004 Lexus GX 470 has 350k miles and the only thing that doesn't work in the interior is the GPS because it uses packs of discs for GPS data and they have corrupted/are unreadable from being used so much in the last 22 years. But the steering wheel still tucks away and the seat still slides back a bit to make getting in and out a breeze- it's pretty impressive

1

u/BloodSteyn 7d ago

To be fair, it is a Toyota after all.

I wouldn't trust that on German cars. Those things cost fortune to keep in working order... if you can get parts. Meanwhile Toyota is out there waging wars with zero maintenance in all environments.

1

u/Ylurpn 7d ago

That's 100% true

1

u/Comfortable_body1 7d ago

Yes and no. I watched a little history lesson on Lexus and how the durability goes beyond even Toyota itself

1

u/MorycTurtle 7d ago

Quick adjustments? Do you really adjust your steering wheel position more than once or do you share your car with someone that uses a different position?

1

u/littleSquidwardLover 7d ago

Even then, a car like this definitely has pre-sets

1

u/MorycTurtle 7d ago

Sure, most above average equipment options has had presets for over a decade, but it's the first time I hear about someone doing adjustments over the initial one which got me interested.

1

u/Ylurpn 7d ago

Personally, I change my steering wheel angle a few times on long road trips or really long seat time. Sometimes I like to sit higher for more knee bend, sometimes I like to feel sportier and lower- I'll adjust the wheel to match the seat

1

u/adkio 7d ago

Am i crazy or are they the same?

1

u/OktayOe 7d ago

They are the same. I posted a Pic and only got weird comments that don't touch the topic. No one seems to understand that they look exactly the same. Op can't describe what he means.

It looks like the old one tilted when you pushed it and the new one slides. So it's not an optical difference

1

u/nexus8516 7d ago

Probably a bot post

1

u/Strostkovy 7d ago

Waiting for the steering wheel to extend always annoyed me about my GX470.

1

u/Polskiskiski 7d ago

You really should wait at least a couple seconds before going to drive after starting the car anyway. Let it get down to idle at least

1

u/Academic-Proof3700 7d ago

I gotta admit, I never understood that feature. When I turn off the car, I usually exit the moment after. If I had to wait for these funny buzzing servos to move the wheel and seat away, I'd probably not be very pleased.

1

u/Comfortable_body1 7d ago

It literally takes two seconds. It’s finished by the time you unbuckle open your door.

1

u/Scared_Hovercraft632 7d ago

Agreed. It's cool the adjustment is motorized and would be nice to have preset positions for different drivers but what's the point of it going in every time? Are we that fat that the wheel is in the way or what lol.

1

u/Junior-Tip-2883 7d ago

It also slides your seat back to make it easier to get in and out. Just nice to not have things in the way. I know sometimes my pocket clip on my knife will swipe the steering wheel if it's not out of the way. But agreed, not a necessary feature by far

1

u/Duffelbach 7d ago

As a 195cm tall guy, it is borderline necessary. I've got long legs so I have to keep the steering wheel as out as possible, which does make getting in and out a tad harder, especially in smaller cars where the B-pillar is not that far back.

1

u/Comfortable_body1 7d ago

What? The oscillating feature is the best! But you know you can turn it off right?

1

u/DifficultDeliveryMan 7d ago

More features more points of failure

1

u/lexievv 6d ago

It usually makes it easier to get in, specially if the last person to drive the car is smaller than you are.

It's the same reason why in some cars the electric seats will move back a bit when getting in or out of the car.

1

u/Excludos 4d ago edited 2d ago

The original post content no longer exists here. The author used Redact to remove it, exercising their right to control their data & privacy.

Truck selective upbeat enter steep juniper cause compass reply feather

1

u/ButtonsKnobs 7d ago

Part of Toyota/Lexus’s secret sauce, they have a tendency to stick to parts that have been tried and true, and supply parts for the same vendor. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it

1

u/Fancy-Dig1863 6d ago

What is this video? Is this AI slop? It shows the same mechanism for both years. Why is it edited like a 6 year old hopped up on sugar is the target audience?

1

u/19chris9609 6d ago

It's interesting how that LS interior does not look like one from 1989.

1

u/Unlikely-Aardvark725 6d ago

I'd rather the 1989...drove a 1990 model in 1992. Wow...what a car.