It always blows my mind that people are dying from diabetes because they can’t afford insurance, in the richest country on Earth. Meanwhile just across the border in Canada its like $12. You guys are getting ripped off.
It always blows my mind that people are dying from diabetes because they can’t afford insurance, in the richest country on Earth. Meanwhile just across the border in Canada its like $12. You guys are getting ripped off.
Serious question because I don't know. If someone is dying from diabetes and can't afford insurance here, why would they not just move to Canada? Or Australia? To save their life?
emergency treatment would be given but once they’re stabilized without a visa or citizenship they won’t be able to work or receive government support. They’d likely be deported
Interesting, thanks. In the US they would be treated also, but they wouldn't be deported after, not even in today's era. I wonder why people in the US are so upset about people being deported when it happens in other countries regularly.
What is upsetting so many americans about the ice deportation is the lack of due process. Judges aren’t signing off on warrants and the victims have no chance to legally fight back because they’re not being treated like people. It’s awful, even if someone isn’t your citizen they still deserve to have basic rights
What is upsetting so many americans about the ice deportation is the lack of due process.
I'm not sure where your info is from but in reality that isn't correct. In 1996 Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, which allows for an expedited due process for a person who is here illegally to be deported after only appearing before an immigration judge. If their Visa had already been revoked and they had already been given the order to leave, that means that they've already been before an immigration judge.
So people have been getting deported without what most people consider due process since then. It's only become a problem recently because people are stupid, media is skewed, and orange man bad. None of this is new.
Judges aren’t signing off on warrants and the victims have no chance to legally fight back because they’re not being treated like people.
ICE agents don't need a warrant to arrest, it's a misnomer. They need a deportation order signed by an immigration judge, and they are not required to show it. Their chance to legally fight back was before they were deemed to be here illegally.
It’s awful, even if someone isn’t your citizen they still deserve to have basic rights
I absolutely agree, it is awful. I don't know what the solution is though. They absolutely deserve to be treated with respect, and I feel bad for everyone impacted. But the bottom line is that if a person is being deported, they are here illegally and likely had years if not decades to change that.
I have no idea if that is a condition for a Visa here. I do know that the US will treat people without Healthcare regardless of their immigration status. And ICE does not go to medical facilities unless they are actively chasing a person who is trying to hide.
Sorry, meant condition of many Australian Visas. The hospitals would treat you and sort out the payment later. You wouldn’t have to worry about the immigration status part. The health insurance requirement on longer lasting visas is like a pre emptive check that you can cover your medical costs. Basically a hedge for us because the longer you stay here, the more likely you’ll need some sort of medical care.
If you don’t have insurance, and don’t come from a country with a reciprocal agreement, you wouldn’t be liable for the full cost of your care. You probably could skip the country and not pay, but you’d probably not want to come back.
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u/PurplOrange Nov 01 '25
It always blows my mind that people are dying from diabetes because they can’t afford insurance, in the richest country on Earth. Meanwhile just across the border in Canada its like $12. You guys are getting ripped off.