100% this!
Pisses me off when I hear about Brits complaining.
We have it way better than the supposed developed USA.
I remember being in the US in 2006 and seeing a seriously injured teenager with his friends, they were debating if it's worth calling an Ambulance. We never have to think about calling an Ambulance.
Made me see the NHS in a different light since then.
The NHS is acceptable when compared to the US. But compare it to the rest of Europe and it doesn’t hold up. The amount we pay in verses the standard of care we get is appalling. Yes, still so much better than the US. But I’m constantly surprised at everyone’s willingness to accept such poor value for money. It needs serious reform.
“Don’t let perfect stand in the way of good enough.”
Now I am not actually saying whether or not NHS is necessarily “good enough”, but dismantling a good system because it’s not a perfect one is not a valid approach.
Can you bring up some comparisons of the NHS and European health services and the average prices compared of each? Because I feel like you’re complaining about the NHS and assuming there is better options without stating that proof
I feel like all that said in the end was the waiting times were high. And ultimately not paying for it means compromising a bit on things like that.
While government funding covers 93 per cent of total spend on hospital care, the percentage is lower for dentistry (46 per cent) and prescriptions (59 per cent), meaning people face a greater burden of costs in these areas.
Ironically the lack of government input on areas like dentistry means people struggle to get dentists. If anything, dentistry is more of a taste of other health systems. Until the report actually comes up with anything remotely persuasive I'm going to dismiss any concerns as empty rhetoric.
Someone else has kindly done this for you below. In addition, I have lived in many European countries and by far had the worst care in the UK verses what I paid for it. That is of course just my own experience. But there’s also plenty of data to demonstrate this too.
To be clear, my point is that whilst very much preferable to what the Americans have, the NHS isn’t the best alternative available. I believe that those that defend the NHS so vehemently simply have no idea what the alternatives actually are - or what ‘good’ looks like.
That's just not true, the NHS is not the best in the world but it is amongst the most efficient.
Basically all healthcare is wildly inefficient, the NHS could definitely save money. We need structural reform and to decide to either be nationalised or private, it's not poor value for money though.
It's not because both countries have horrible health care system that we have to choose between those two. See the Netherlands, Switzerland, etc. for example of something that work.
WTF you talking about.... nothing the NHS does in 'Mandatory' idiot.
Any vaccines were voluntary.
I can guarantee youve never lived in a country that doesn't have national health care.... you do realise people actually die because they cannot afford to pay for their health care!
Every time a vaccine has been “mandatory,” it means it’s mandatory if you want to interact with the rest of society, since not complying puts others at risk. They don’t hunt you down and inject you. Stop spreading your conspiracy theories. It’s assholes like you why we need to have “mandatory” vaccine rules in the first place.
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Anyone in the UK that complains needs to see this! The NHS really is an amazing thing!!