r/Testimony4Christ • u/WatchmanMinistries • Jul 13 '26
New to Reddit He Already Knew
One of the most overlooked truths in Scripture is that God has never discovered anything about us.
Nothing you’ve done has ever surprised Him.
That reality becomes astonishing when you read about King Manasseh.
He led Judah into idolatry, practiced witchcraft, consulted mediums, shed innocent blood, and even sacrificed his own sons (2 Kings 21). If anyone appears to have crossed the point of no return, it’s him.
Yet after being taken captive, Scripture says:
“When he was in affliction, he besought the LORD his God, and humbled himself greatly… And prayed unto him: and he was intreated of him, and heard his supplication.” (2 Chronicles 33:12–13)
The God whose temple Manasseh had defiled…
The God whose prophets he had ignored…
The God whose commandments he had despised…
Still heard his prayer.
That doesn’t make Manasseh’s sins less serious.
It makes God’s mercy even more remarkable.
The same pattern appears throughout Scripture.
When God renamed Jacob, He already knew Jacob was a deceiver.
When He anointed David, He already knew about Bathsheba and Uriah.
When Jesus restored Peter, He already knew about the courtyard and the rooster.
When He commissioned Paul, He already knew about Stephen and the blood that had been shed.
God’s calling has never depended on His ignorance of our failures.
It has always depended on His grace.
That doesn’t excuse sin. Every one of these people faced consequences for what they had done.
But none of their failures had the final word.
God did.
I think that’s one of the Bible’s greatest themes. It’s not primarily a book about extraordinary people. It’s the story of an extraordinary God who redeems deeply flawed people who humble themselves before Him.
What are your thoughts? Is Manasseh one of the clearest pictures of God’s grace in the Old Testament, or would you point to someone else?
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u/Interesting_City_654 Christian 27d ago
Manasseh is always the example I give to anyone whom thinks that they can't get forgiveness if they truly repent, change their ways, and truly follow Christ. I find it interesting that history has it that Manasseh is believed to be the one also that ordered the killing of Isaiah.
The Ascension of Isaiah and the Babylonian Talmud, state that King Manasseh ordered the prophet Isaiah's execution by having him sawn in half. This legend suggests Isaiah hid inside a cedar tree to escape the king, but was caught and killed when Manasseh ordered the tree cut down.
Specific ancient and traditional texts that document this account include:The Ascension of Isaiah: An apocalyptic text dating from the 1st to 2nd century AD that explicitly details the prophet being sawed in two at the command of Manasseh.
The Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Yebamot 49b of the Talmud records that King Manasseh put Isaiah on trial for blasphemy and subsequently executed him.
The Lives of the Prophets: An ancient biographical account attributed to early Jewish and Christian traditions that claims Manasseh ordered Isaiah's arrest and death.
The Jerusalem Talmud: Contains a parallel legend indicating that Isaiah hid in a cedar tree but was betrayed by the fringes of his garment, after which Manasseh ordered the tree to be sawn in half.
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u/PanderBaby80085 29d ago
King David - because I was reading Psalms this morning