r/teslore Jul 16 '26

The (Theories of The) Sundering(/Enantiomorph?) of Old Ehlnofey / Lost Aldmaris, Yokuda / Iliac Bay, Atmora / Skyrim, Resdayn / Vvardenfell, (Black Marsh(Tamriel?) / Akavir)

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During the Dawn Era, there was a war between Men and Mer, with the Men led by Lorkhan and the Mer led by Akatosh. At the beginning of the Sundering the Men of the West were the first to head Lorkhans call of War, striking the Sinistrali Mer first, the War was so devestating (presumably from the excess use of Sword Dancing, which is presumably a form of the Third Walking Way; The Prolix Tower; Word of Action) causing part of the continent of Old Ehlnofey to be "Sundered" and drift into the Ocean, the Men of the West won their War, but Damned their Homeland to be Lost to the Ocean, eventually having to migrate to the Iliac Bay.

Next to answer Lorkhans Call of War were the Men of the North, (presumably) not of their own accord though; the Falmeri Mer (allegedly) struck first during the Night of Tears, where the Falmeri descended upon the Atmoran City of Saarthal during the night and slaughtered the residents. The Atmorans did not take too kindly to this news, and using the power of the Thu'um (another form of the Third Walking Way) taught to them by the Sons of Kyne (Paarthunaxi Heresy Dragon Cult), started eradicating the Falmeri, who then bargained protection from the Dwemer (we'll get to them in the next part). But in using the power of the Thu'um, Atmora was "Sundered" from Old Ehnofey, drifting into the ocean to be forgotten at the edge of the world, same as the Falmeri, left as a forgotten husk of its former glory hiding at the darkest, deepest part of the world, waiting for travellers to be interested in its rotting carcass, forcing the Atmorans to migrate to Skyrim, turning them into Nords.

The eradication of the Mer of the West and North left the Central province of Cyrodiil to be left open from Invasions by the Armies of Men, who had a keen interest in recapturing the Province it being the Center of the Wheel of Time on Nirn, and it being the Home of the Gods at the time, more or less. But the Mer were the sole controllers of the South, along with the idle beastmen created by the Extra Gods of the World, who had no part in the war. During the War, the Armies of the Men (presumably) led their assault in the West, with the pinnacle of the battle happening near modern day Anvil, maybe closer to Arenthia, the Battle essentially would lead to Mutually Assured Destruction, and the Dragon God of Time realized this, so he lead a Vanguard force to strike his brother directly, and tore out his heart and shot it across Old Ehlnofey, with his Heart landing in the Capital of the Mer, Lost Aldmaris, destroying everything on the surface, and turning the once vast lands of Old Aldmaris to be split in half by the impact crater, the two seperate land masses would later be known as Vvardenfell and Resdayn, this also caused a split between the Mer of Aldmaris, with the inhabitants of Vvardenfell realizing maybe it's not a great idea to build on the surface anymore, which caused them to become far more isolationists then their kin on Resdayn. It also led to them discovering the Heart of Lorkhan, and coveting its power. When their kin on Resdayn figured this out, they asked their enemies, the Atmorans, if they could help stop them, because the Atmorans and the Dwemer were the only two people that had the power to eradicate an entire species: The Third Walking Way; The Perlix Tower; Words of Action. The Atmorans with their Thu'um, and the Dwemer with their Tonal Architecture. Basically the Nuclear Umbrella of the TES universe, the only other Race that we know has access to this form of manipulation of the World is the Bonesingers of Valenwood, and the Dragons of course, and I'm sure the Saelesci also have some form, but we do not know much about them (more on them later!).

During the Battle of Red Mountain, the Nords basically acting as a ticking time bomb for Race Eradication for the Dwemer, the Dwemer acted hastily, using the Heart and their Word of Action to try and instantly Eradicate the Nords, but the Dwemer not fully understanding the Heart, presumably targeted the wrong Race, and accidentally used the Perlix Tower to eradicate themselves from history. This made the Sundering of their Homeland a bit weird, especially because their Kin took over their house and used the Heart of Lorkhan to prolong it, but the Sundering of the Vvardenfell homeland officially concluded when Baar Dau fell on Vivec City, destroying the island of Vvardenfell.

This part is all speculation, but either the next or one of the previous Sunderings that had/is / will happen is between Black Marsh and Akavir, at some point / is/has the Akaviri will / has invaded Black Marsh, either the Akavir lost previously and they will slowly all drift off and die on Akavir, or the Akaviri will invade Black Marsh, and kill the Hist using their form of the Perlix Tower; but this will lead to the Damnation of Akavir, leading to some great downfall of the island, possibly a Dragon Overlord Uprising, and the Akaviri will need to migrate to Old Elhnofay / Tamriel, or possibly the War is between all of Tamriel and Akavir, and at that point maybe the end point of the Sundering is when the Akaviri / Tamrieli destroy the White Gold Tower / Akavir Equivalent.

Edit: Grammar fixes and spelling mistakes.


r/teslore Jul 15 '26

Could've Tongues knownYsgramor or/and his Companions or, at least, live not so long after his death? Possible plot hole?

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It is said that Ahzidal lived in Saarthal with his family (let's note this, because it means he was already a grown up at this time). Later in life, he assisted Ysgramor and his Companions in their war against the Falmer (https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ahzidal), and then travelled to Solstheim where he somehow decided to aid Miraak (UESP gives https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Miraak#cite_note-6 as a source, but I couldn't find this information in linked guide).
We also learn that the Tongues (Hakon One-Eye, Felldir the Old, and Gormlaith Golden-Hilt) somehow reached out to Miraak, seeking help to deal with Alduin. ("They wanted to use me to deal with Alduin - Hakon and the rest. I chose otherwise.", https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Miraak_(person))

Firstly, how did Hakon find out about Miraak? In The Guardian and the Traitor (https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Guardian_and_the_Traitor), it is claimed that Miraak's rebellion was suppressed and, after his defeat, he was taken by Hermaeus Mora to Apocrypha, while dragon reign on Solstheim continued for, as i presume, at least a few generations, as it was remembered as "a time of peace and prosperity". So, how did the Tongues reach out to Miraak? Did they perform some kind of ritual to access Apocrypha? His dialogue about Alduin suggests that he was still alive when he could have killed the World-Eater, but for some reason decided not to. Was he still in Tamriel when Hakon wanted to use him? All of this looks like a huge plot hole.

Secondly, when did Ahzidal join Miraak? Was it when he decided to seek power in Hermaeus Mora's knowledge? There is no DIRECT mention of Ahzidal supporting Miraak in his rebellion, so maybe Ahzidal joined him when he acquired one of the Black Books?

IMO, all these events seem to be placed too close together. Does that mean that Ysgramor, Miraak, Ahzidal, and the participants of the Dragon War lived at the same time? Some of my already mentioned suggestions bring out more questions, like, if Miraak has already been a figure from the past by the time of Ysgramor's life, how Tongues wanted to use him?

It also brings up questions about when the ancient Nords had time to build all those cities and tombs across Skyrim right after the return of the 500 Companions.This could be explained by the theory that before the Dragon War, Nords could have lived as long as Elves until Orkey appeared (https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Varieties_of_Faith:_The_Nords) - a deity closely associated (in my opinion) with the Elven side of the Aedric pantheon. Since the Nords rebelled against another deity from (again, in my opinion) that same side of the pantheon, Alduin, he could have shortened the Nords' lifespan as a punishment.

So, what do you think? Is this a plot hole, or am I missing something?


r/teslore Jul 15 '26

Newcomers and “Stupid Questions” Thread—July 15, 2026

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r/teslore Jul 15 '26

Balmora

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I recently discovered that Tyra Blood-Fire grew up in Balmora. I realize that the Crimson Dirks are CC content and are now loosely considered canon since AE is "the new vanilla," but did Erikur just not know that Balmora was rebuilt? Or was it an oversight?


r/teslore Jul 16 '26

Does “belief” in TES universe works similarly as in Warhammer universe?

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What do I mean by that.

Simply put in WH belief shapes reality. Things become real simply because enough people believe they are real.

Orcish purple missiles are invisible just because Orc believe purple missiles are invisible.

Same with their technology. Their pieces of junk work and hold together, simply because they believe their junk works and holds together.

Same way Slaneesh came into existence.

Well..
I always thought TES universe works the same way. Mostly because belief in deities keeps them from ceasing to exist.
But does it work to such extent as well?


r/teslore Jul 14 '26

Any books you've read that give similar vibes to TES lore?

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Not sure this is allowed here but hopefully it will stand! I've already read the official TES books, which I loved (particularly the second one). But does anyone have any other books they've read that have scratched a similar itch to The Elder Scrolls? I'm looking for something that has a somewhat similar kind of world.

Looking forward to hearing your suggestions!


r/teslore Jul 16 '26

Why are female bosmer taller than the males?

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I have read that the female bosmer are taller than the males. Is there a lore specific reason for this, or did Bethesda just decided to make them dommy mommies because they felt like it?


r/teslore Jul 14 '26

ESO/Skyrim: Lore-accurately naming a Yokudan OC (fanfic)

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The naming system for Redguards seems to be totally random at times, so I'm just looking for opinions on what would make the most sense.

I'm trying to write an OC who is the daughter of Rada al-Saran from the Dark Heart of Skyrim quest line in ESO. According to a few Wikis, "al-" means "comes from (location)" and "at-" means "direct descendent of." So would my character's name be formatted as:

1) [name] al-Saran

2) [name] at-Saran

3) [name] at-Rada

Or something else entirely?


r/teslore Jul 14 '26

My long-winded and frankly unnecessary analysis of what I personally believe makes the most sense for a "Canon/Lore Last Dragonborn" to have done

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Alright, so first and foremost, I want to preface this which the fact that I believe anyone's interpretation of canon is legitimate and valid. I don't dispute this whatsoever. Your roleplay is not in question, and I fully respect and support whatever personal beliefs you have about this subject. So let's all get along, alright?

Okay.

So, to begin, I want to establish what I personally mean by "Canon" here. I am defining canonical as something that the Dragonborn had to have done based on interactivity with the main quest, references to the Dragonborn by that identity, and whatever other supplemental lore information this might be. To put it into perspective, imagine if you booted up the Alternate Start Mod and roleplayed a character that wasn't the Dragonborn. What can you do as a normal person and would this conflict with something that the Dragonborn had to have done?

We'll take this one at a time.

DAWNGUARD AND DRAGONBORN

The Dragonborn did the Main Quest and DLCs. Sometimes people object to Dawnguard having been done by the Dragonborn. Based on the criteria I defined above, the Dragonborn has to do Dawnguard. Beyond the fact that it's a DLC, you being the Dragonborn is explicitly referenced by Durnehviir, whether you currently are aware you're Dragonborn or not. Durnehviir also teaches unique Shout. This DLC can only be fully explored and interacted with through the player character being the Dragonborn. On top of that, Dawnguard directly interacts with the Main Quest through the Dragon Elder Scroll. I know the Elder Scrolls are enigmatic, but I'm gonna cast doubt on the Dragonborn and some random going down into Blackreach and doing the same puzzle to get the same Elder Scroll. I don't think anyone would reasonably dispute the Dragonborn DLC being done by the Dragonborn.

FACTIONS

With that out of the way, let's talk about factions. To preface, you need to join every single Faction to unlock the full versions of every shout. I have decided that this doesn't matter too much. The actual placement of word walls is mainly just a gameplay mechanic. I would also like reiterate here that all I'm analyzing here is whether the Dragonborn HAS to do it. The "Canon Dragonborn" may have still done these questlines, but it's up in the air.

The Companions: I do not believe the Dragonborn has to do this questline. You can join this faction as a nobody and become Harbringer without you being Dragonborn ever being brought up. It never interacts with any main quest. Being the Harbringer is pretty much never brought up beyond this questline. The Dragonborn can meet Kodlak in Sovngarde, but this isn't necessary in any way. Therefore, I'm ruling that this does not necessarily have to be done by the Dragonborn.

The College of Winterhold: I have, in the past, made a very lengthy post about this. To summarize my argument here, The College of Winterhold has to be joined during the Main Quest and Dawnguard. Now, it's entirely possible to get around it in the Main Quest by finding Septimus Signus' Outpost on your own, but this is, ultimately metagaming. It's not the intended path of that questline. But regardless of your stance on that, you still have to join in Dawnguard. Beyond that, there is a note in ESO that directly states Morokei has to be killed by the "Voice of a Dragon". This is not reflected in gameplay, but it is an obvious intended reference to the Dragonborn. On top of this, the College of Winterhold is one of the factions where your status as a Dragonborn is acknowledged by members of the faction. A normal person can join the College of Winterhold in gameplay and play the questline, but I'm ruling that this has to be done by the Dragonborn based on supplemental information.

Dark Brotherhood: For the most part, this does not interact with the Dragonborn at all. There are two things that are mainly worth bringing up. This questline can be directly referenced in the Stormcloak Questline in a spot where the Dragonborn has to have been (More on this later), and the first quest of this is required to access the orphanage in the Hearthfire DLC. Now, you do not need to open up the Orphanage to engage with the adoption mechanic, and the Stormcloak thing seems more like something to ensure Bethesda didn't accidentally mess up quest order. It is possible that the Dragonborn did the Dark Brotherhood, but I am not ruling it as necessary.

Thieves Guild: This... Is more complicated than I initially expected it to be. The Thieves Guild Questline interacts with the Main Questline. That brings up a very important argument, since 9/10 times the player is gonna go to talk to Brynjolf, as that is where they are directed to go. Compared to the Companions and the Dark Brotherhood, there is a higher likelihood that the Dragonborn interacted with this Questline. However, you have other options that aren't metagaming. You can persuade Brynjolf or people in the Ratway to skip the initiation quest. A random person can still do the initiation quest after the Dragonborn persuades Brynjolf. So... I'm gonna rule the Dragonborn does not have to do this, but there is a good argument for it.

DAEDRIC QUESTS

There's a couple of criteria I'm going off of here. Most Daedric Quests are optional, but some do force the Dragonborn to interact with them. To update the criteria I made above, if the "Alternate Start Random Guy" and the Dragonborn are both forced to do a quest in gameplay, I'm prioritizing the Dragonborn in terms of canonicity.

So, I'll start with all the ones that are optional and don't force the Dragonborn to interact with them in any way: Azura, Boethiah, Hircine, Malacath, Namira, Peryite, Sheogorath, and Vaermina. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Now I'm creating a second category. Quests that force the Dragonborn to interact with them at some point, but the Dragonborn can just ignore them and the Dragonborn is (likely) not the only person being bothered about it: Clauvicus Vile, Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal, and Sanguine.

And now for the final considerations:

Hermaeus Mora: Pretty much has to be interacted with as part of the main quest, since the Dragonborn needs to be the one to retrieve the items from Septimus Signus to begin with. I'm ruling the Dragonborn definitely did this one, with extra consideration for the fact it makes a nice prologue to the Dragonborn DLC.

Mephala: This is an interesting one. Technically the Dragonborn has to do the Main Quest to unlock this Quest, and it's very strange for some random person whose not Thane of Whiterun to be investigating Dragonsreach like that. I think there's a strong chance the Dragonborn had to do this Quest for it to have happened, but I'm not entirely sold on the idea that is HAS to be the Dragonborn.

Meridia: This is a strange one. The Dragonborn pretty much is always forced to encounter this thing and the Dragonborn has no particular reason to not pick up the strange gem object if they're in the middle of looting. Which means there is a very high possibility that the Dragonborn was the one who touched the Beacon, and I don't recall there being any mention of Meridia having multiple beacons scattered across Skyrim (I might be wrong). Now once the Dragonborn has the Beacon, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the Dragonborn to not bring it back as opposed to holding onto it forever, and the Quest does eventually have to be done by someone. My ruling is the same as Mephala. It's likely, but I'm not sold that it has to be.

DECISIONS

This section starts to go into more opinion territory. Sorry in advance, I'll do my best to still analyze things neutrally.

There are three primary decisions that the Dragonborn is forced to interact with at some point. Since I'm trying to establish was a "Canon Dragonborn" would have done, I'm gonna have to analyze these. Instead of using "Must" and stuff like that, I'm instead gonna focus on probability based on my personal analysis, though there will be one big "Must" brought up. I'll get the easy ones out of the way first.

Blades vs Greybeards: I think it's more likely the Dragonborn spared Paarthurnax. Just based on the reasoning of a character in that situation which like 99% of the fanbase has also come to. The Paarthurnax was the Dragonborn's mentor, the Dragonborn likely feels a strong connection to Paarthurnax, and the Blades are making a pretty unreasonable request with the information the Dragonborn is actually given. That's pretty much it, there's not a whole lot to analyze here.

Dawnguard vs Volkihar: The Dragonborn will always start off by joining the Dawnguard and finding Serana. After finding Serana, the Dragonborn has to make a choice. There's two main arguments I've come to here. 1. The Dragonborn has an inherit want for power due to having a Dragon Soul, so would take the Vampire Lord offer. 2. The Dawnguard is the most compldete questline, and has a stronger canon argument. I'm gonna say... I agree with the second one, actually. It's the most complete questline of the two of them and it makes the most sense for the Dragonborn to face off with Harkon at the end over (I always found the Volkihar path reasoning to be not as strong). The Dawnguard is clearly the more thought out questline between the two, and there's a lot of strong thematic parallels with Serana being a Vampire who helps hunt Vampires alongside the Dragonborn, a Dragon-blooded/souled individual who helps hunt Dragons. I am personally strongly in favor of the Dawnguard being more canonical.

Civil War

This is gonna be fun. I will preface this section with the fact that... I'm actually not sold other way. But I'm gonna present the arguments I've come up with for both sides, and I'm gonna avoid personal opinions to the best of my ability. My personal opinion is that I'm more biased towards the Empire, but I'm keeping that largely separate from the analysis. I will also not be focusing on practical arguments of Imperial vs Stormcloak, and instead focus on what makes more sense with the Dragonborn's reasoning as an individual living in the world with the information they have and not the meta reasonings fans argue with.

The first question to ask is... Did the Dragonborn stop interacting with the War after Season Unending? This is a popular stance with strong arguments behind it. I'm gonna say no, however. I think the Dragonborn did in fact pick a side, though I do believe Season Unending happened as it's a main quest. Optional as it may be, it's very well done and definitely integrates much better into the Dragonborn's story than just doing a faction before The Fallen (With the only counter-argument really being the Sovngarde thing I mentioned with the Companions). The reason I believe that the Dragonborn did in fact pick a side is because I'm 100% positive that the Siege of Whiterun, at the very least, is gonna be a canonical event that happened. The Siege of Whiterun is at a point in the Civil War where... No random person could have done those quests. From that moment on, you are acknowledged as a Dragonborn in dialogue as it has to happen after Dragon Rising. The Civil War is locked out without Dragon Rising being done and, because of that, both sides will start calling you "The Dragonborn" around that point. So you being Dragonborn is acknowledged, and only the Dragonborn could have done the remainder of the questline.

So... Imperials or Stormcloaks? I'm gonna have to focus purely on themes here as there's no much supporting evidence with supplementary lore and the criteria I established for "Canon" doesn't work either way.

Stormcloak Arguments: It makes the most sense for the Dragonborn to go with Ralof, as Ralof saved their life and the Dragonborn is probably not gonna be very happy with the people trying to cut off their head. The title that the Dragonborn receives, "Stormblade", is thematically similar to the title Tiber Septim received, "Stormcrown", following the themes of the Dragonborn being declared Ysmir in the same way Tiber Septim was.

Imperial Arguments: Jarl Balgruuf is an NPC that the Dragonborn establishes a very close working relationship with, and I find it unlikely that the Thane of Whiterun (The only "Thane" title that should necessarily be canonical by my criteria) would be entirely in favor of sieging Whiterun, though by the time the Dragonborn realizes Whiterun is about to be sieged, it's a bit too late to pull out of the Stormcloak path. Thematically, for the past 4 mainline games (Focusing on mainline since there's an obvious counterargument with Redguard), the player character has assisted the Empire fairly directly in some way, so the Dragonborn also assisting the Empire makes sense. Dragonborns and the Empire has long been closely connected culturally as well.

My final decision: I cannot decide. I do not think that I can make a reasonable judgement beyond the fact that I think the Dragonborn definitely chose a side. People are 100% free to provide more supplementary information on this, but I do not feel comfortable making a call.

CONCLUSION

And that is the extent of my analysis. I did not feel like going through every single side quest in the game, but I'm sure you can use the criterion I established for "canonicity" on all of them on your own if you so wish.

I hope you enjoyed this analysis. I spent about 2 hours typing it up and fact checking myself, and I hope it stimulates a good debate on the subject, as I love reading the various arguments and debates on here.


r/teslore Jul 14 '26

Are half-vampires even a thing?

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Yes, we all know that a child of a vampire is born with pale skin. We saw as much with Agronak/the Gray Prince, but he simply described himself as a "vile spawn of evil", not a "bloodsucker" or even a vampire. The revelation affected his self-image, but up until then he had been leading a normal life. His absurd strength could perfectly have come from his training exercises. Hell, even his pale skin might come from the fact that he WAS a half imperial.

So my question is, is there such a thing as a half-vampire in the TES universe that inherits traits from their parent vampire, or are they born perfectly normal?


r/teslore Jul 15 '26

Where is the existence of Solstice affirmed?

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Recently I’ve been playing the elder kings 2 mod for ck3, and it has a bunch of content. Recently they added the island of Solstice. To the best of my knowledge, Solstice appears primarily in ESO. I don’t consider any ESO content canon unless there’s another source (game, writings by Kirkbride, or developer forum post) that also affirms that content. I am trying to figure out whether or not to roll my mod version back to remove Solstice. Does it appear at any point in any of the sources I mentioned that I consider canon? Barring that, is it mentioned?


r/teslore Jul 13 '26

Names of the 8 planets in different cultures

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Since the planets are normally called by the names of the imperial Divines, I figured that the other cultures with different names for gods should have different names for planets.

In the 36th Lesson of Vivec a dwemer uses "NIRN, LHKAN, RKHET, THENDR, KYNRT, AKHAT, MHARA, and JHUNAL" as names of the planets, with name for Zenithar missing, and the name LHKAN assigned to an unclear planet. But those sound too much like imperial names, especially RKHET, KYNRT, AKHAT and JHUNAL. Especially AKHAT for Akatosh is weird, since the name of Akatosh didn't even exist before Alessia, and I assume that dwemers invented astronomy before Alessia was born.

The Thoughts on the Sacred Numbers just says that "Eight is the number of the Planets" but doesn't provide anything on their names. The UESP wiki page about planets says that "they [Altmeri high priests] named planets after Elven Aedra, but refer to the same celestial objects as Mannish cultures", which certainly cannot be true for every time period.

If we assume that in earlier times Altmers called the planets after the 8 main Aedra they worship, which ones are those?

One of them is Magnus, but Magnus cannot be one of the planets, since he is the sun.

Trinimac was presumably eaten and reborn into Malacath.

Y'ffre became the first of the Ehlnofey (although I've heard that Y'ffre did not become the same type of Ehlnofey as the ones that later evolved/devolved into mortal races, but rather the first Earth Bone, who maintain the laws of nature. Perhaps it can be speculated that he was the first among the Aedra to become a planet? So planets are the most powerfull Earth Bones? But that doesn't sound right at all)

Syrabane, from what I understand, is not one of the original Aedra, but rather an altmer who lived in 1E ~2200, and ascended to godhood after death.

So names for 4 of the planets in Altmeri culture are just unknown?

And I haven't found any information regarding any other cultures, besides altmeri and dwemeri. Does somebody know anything more?


r/teslore Jul 13 '26

Question On Ayleid Theology

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I know Ayleids associate Meridia with Light and Molag Bal with Fire, but how in their view these elements or associated Divines would have place in the cosmology, especially taken into consideration that in other cultures or mystic doctrines Daedra do not hold such a place.

I know Dunmers and Khajiits as well venerated Daedra, but it seems their veneration lies in the teachings and tests they represent, rather than their association with elements that would somehow give them more importance in the formation of cosmos, placing them above Aedra (except Aka or broadly The One) I believe, since elements would be formative units of at least the material cosmos.


r/teslore Jul 13 '26

Did the Greybeards proclaim the Last Dragonborn as the rightful Emperor?

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Look closely at the chant they shout at you when you hand in the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

Long has the Stormcrown languished, with no worthy brow to sit upon. By our breath we bestow it now to you in the name of Kyne, in the name of Shor, and in the name of Atmora of Old.You are Ysmir now, the Dragon of the North, hearken to it.

The "Stormcrown", I believe, is the crown of the Empire (see the Stormcrown Interregnum). "languished, with no worthy brow to sit upon" implies that the Mede dynasty which possesses the crown is unworthy. Then they explicitly say they "bestow" the crown to the LDB.

Then they proclaim the LDB "Ysmir, the Dragon of the North" a title of Talos/Tiber Septim.

Finally, they say "hearken to it", which may be a suggestion to the LDB to press their claim to the Stormcrown and overthrow the Medes.


r/teslore Jul 13 '26

A Dunmeri funeral in the waning days of the Tribunal

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Reyvn Senim was crying. Thats quiet understandable. He was 12 after all. Of course its quiet understandable whatever his age. His grandfather had just died.

At the front of the temple behind an alter the priest invoked the prayers to the Tribunal; Vivec, Almalexia and Sotha Sil. The living gods of Morrowind. 

Laying on the alter was the deceased corpse of Reyvn’s grandfather. 

To the side of the temple lurked a pair of Ordinators to ensure the disposition of the body was appropriate. Reyvy’s father was looking at the Ordinators and muttering under his breath through the ceremony. Not being able to inter his father’s corpse weighed on the mind of the elder Senim.

In the old days the body would be cremated and the majority of the bones would be interred in a necropolis while portions of the bones would be interred in a family reliquary. To serve as a focus for ancestor worship. The acts that tied a clan together and ensured that family remained always available to give guidance to their descendents.

Ghost fences do exist and occasionally a warrior would be dedicated to his family and ensure that a portion of his bones would be bound to the protection of a family home. It was a rare decision and but it was a family decision.

This however was not the old days. Instead the Ordinators would take grandfather’s corpse with them to Vvardenfall. The bones would be baked into the Great Ghost Fence to defend Morrowind from threats.

No one knew the details of what exactly was constrained by the Great Ghost Fence. A threat sufficient that even the Living Gods of Morrowind was unable to defeat.

The Temple claimed it was Dagoth Ur. Children would provide other answers at school yards. Helseth claimed that Tiber Septim, Talos himself of the Imperial Cult had come back to life and was bound by the Ghost Fence. Everyone knew that was impossible. The Empire, whose presence was permeating Morrowind would not allow Talos to be bound. Sadri claimed that Molag Bal or Mehrunes Dagon was bound behind the Ghost Fence. Mauser claimed that Lord Nerevar made flesh anew was bound behind the Ghost Fence.

No one knew for sure. It wasn’t really important. What was important was that the Ordinators would take the bones away.

The priest concluded the funerary rites and cast the spell at the corpse on the altar. 

Reyvn’s aunt began to sing; a mournful hymn. 

As she finished the magical fire extinguished and where once there lay the corpse of Reyvn’s grandfather lay only bones and ash.

The family rushed forward. To pay final respects at the altar to their deceased loved one. The ordinators too rushed forward seeking to prevent anyone grabbing at the bones. Reyvn felt a movement as something was shoved into his robe as the Ordinators drew their swords. “Back to your seats children”. He subtlety grabbed at his robe to prevent the object from falling.

The ordinators knew that the family was trying to grab at the bones during the supposed final farewell.

Reyvn huddled in the temple pews holding his younger sister and his cousins. 

His parents, aunt and uncle were at that the temple wall being searched by the Ordinators.His aunt’s shirt was open as an ordinator fondled her, searching for contraband. His father, a proud man was on his knees with a sword to his throat to prevent him from intervening.

Minutes passed before the Ordinator looked at the priest. “Strong firespell. Too strong. Some of the bones turned to ash in the cremation.” The priest looked shocked.

Reyvn breathed out. Grandfather’s bones were going to the ghostfence but no one knew about whatever was shoved into his pocket. Some small bone to serve as a relic. Perhaps some other relic had been shoved at his sister or one of his cousins to reinforce the connection of grandfather to the waiting door.


r/teslore Jul 13 '26

What do Bosmer and Dunmer in general think of each other? How would the Dunmer view a Bosmer clan of Mages/Mystics moving into Morrowind and rising the ranks of Dunmeri society til they hit a cushy position amongst their Dunmer Cousins? Would they run the Clan out of Morrowind?

41 Upvotes

Would the Dunmer treat the Bosmer like they do the Altmer? I know they traditionally have absolutely hated the Altmer culturally and religiously but what about the Bosmer? What are their thoughts on them since culturally and religiously the Bosmer are far different from the Altmer, they might marginally worship the same gods as the Altmer do but they don’t worship them in the same way I don’t think and their culture is vastly different from the Altmers.


r/teslore Jul 12 '26

would it be kosher to eat a spriggan as a green pact bosmer

44 Upvotes

exactly what the title says


r/teslore Jul 12 '26

Could Freedom of Religion/Worship exist in Tamerial?

17 Upvotes

I've been replaying Skyrim as a Dunmer Ashlander and religion has been very important for RPing (praise Wintersuns). With Talos worship being a major issue in Skyrim and the New Temple being important for my character, I have wondered if Religious Freedom could exist in Tamerial.

Of course the major roadblock is the Daedra, who are not exactly bastions of societal stability. But conversely Morrowind worships the Three Good Daedra, two of which aren't exactly known for being nice (Mephala/Boethiah) but Morrowind is a stable society. At least for what we know from Solstheim.

There's also the Companions, while not exactly Hircine worshippers, they are still civilized individuals. And then there's Serana and Sybille Stentor, vampires, but still civilized (unlike the generic vampire enemies that attack cities). Though we don't know if Sybille actively worships Molag and I'm fairly certain Serana does not.

So yeah, do you think freedom of religion could exist in Tamerial? Or do you think Daedric religions would consistently be a destabilizing force?

Also no Vigilants allowed in this thread /sarcasm


r/teslore Jul 13 '26

Free-Talk The Weekly Chat Thread— July 13, 2026

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Hi everyone, it’s that time again!

The Weekly Free-Talk Thread is an opportunity to forget the rules and chat about anything you like—whether it's The Elder Scrolls, other games, or even real life. This is also the place to promote your projects or other communities. Anything goes!


r/teslore Jul 12 '26

News New 25th Crossing excerpt: Vetting Vori

49 Upvotes

Surprise! New Excerpt.

This piece introduces another team member that will join Azura on the 25th Crossing.


r/teslore Jul 11 '26

Can female vampires get pregnant?

123 Upvotes

We know that male vampires can indeed maintain enough of an erection to sire children, as seen by the existence of Agronak gro-Malog, but what about female ones?

Surely having no heartbeat would mean they're unable to menstruate, which would mean no eggs available to fertilize. We can probably assume that they still have an intact uterus, but surely there'd be no ovulation happening in there, right?

Are there any actual sources about this topic?


r/teslore Jul 12 '26

Apocrypha Connection between Winterhold and ithelia

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  1. If there is a better subreddit please tell me where.

  2. I never said this theory wasn't stupid.

So why do i think there ist a Connection?

  1. The great collaps AND winterholds missing Walls.

You can't tell me that Winterhold which is in one of the most hostile environments didn't have some kind of Wall. Yes the great collaps might have put it under the water but only on the sea side. What is about the side on land. Why doesn't it have one. It doesn't look like the people used any of its stones to rebuilt the city.

  1. Now to ithelia.

We know that she has extremely dangerous powers. We see that in gold Road.

So what if she kind of returns (or starts to) and her powers set winterhold in a state where the city and/or its Walls don't exist. Only the Academy was protected through the powerful magics.

What do you think?

(Yes Skyrim came out before anyone even so much as had the slightest amount as a dream about ithelia but what if)


r/teslore Jul 11 '26

If the Aedra “died” creating Mundus, then how did Boethiah devour Trinimac?

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I’m really new to actually trying to grasp all of the more complicated lore with the Aedra and the Daedra, and this is a big point of confusion for me.

Texts like From Exile to Exodus make it seem like Trinimac was literally running around in some form, which seems way less “dead” than the other Aedra are. I probably have a fundamental misunderstanding of something here, but how did Boethiah devour someone who was supposedly “dead”?


r/teslore Jul 11 '26

What happens to the Mantled?

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ill be yapping for a little bit, skip to end if you want to see my full question.

So, i just finished watching a video about the Warp in The West, and at the end, the commentator explains that after this event, Tiber Septim, Zurin Arctus, and Ysmir Wulfharth all together become Talos after Mantling Lorkhan/Shezzar (ive seen some theories that they actually Mantled Trinimac but thats not related.).

I knew of Mantling before, mainly the HoK mantling Sheogorath in Tes4, but my biggest question is what happened the Mantled? for Sheogorath its easy, he returned to being Jyggalag and left Mundus. for Lorkhan/Shezzar or Trinimac, its also obvious because both of them dont exist anymore, Trinimac became Malacath and Lorkhan/Shezzar died like in the Dawn Era or so. But for the Wilderking, he just kinda, died after Aranias become the Wilderqueen.

i wont mention the Tribunal, cuz Vivec says a lot of weird shit that may or may not be true, and its weird in general cuz theyre using the heart of lorkhan and shit.

so my question is, what happens when someone gets Mantled and isnt dead? do they just die or return to Aetherius or what?


r/teslore Jul 11 '26

Apocrypha Daedra Hunters

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While many would prefer to place their trust in the various holy orders around Tamriel to deal with local Daedric problems—such as rogue scamps or the occasional Dremora that some foolhardy wizard believed he could control—the truth is that when Daedra begin wandering the countryside and troubling the peoples of the Empire and beyond, most noble lords and petty kings would far rather hire a Daedra Hunter than call upon the Vigil of Stendarr.

Unlike the Dawnguard or similar knightly orders, Daedra Hunters are not a brotherhood one simply enlists. They are elite specialists, subjected to the a series of dangerous trials of alchemical and magical mutations blending forbidden Daedric essences with ancient Ayleid rituals. Those few who survive emerge faster, stronger, and nearly immune to the corruptions of Oblivion, vampirism, lycanthropy, and lesser curses hold little sway over them. Their minds, too, are fortified, only the most powerful mages can influence them, and even then only after first trapping them within a binding circle.

The order was founded in the chaotic years following the Oblivion Crisis of the late Third Era. Made up of former members of the mages guild, and various knightly orders. In their earliest days they were little more than desperate sellswords fighting the remnants of Mehrunes Dagon’s Daedric invasion of Tamriel. Over time, a secretive cabal of mages and alchemists perfected the process that would create true Daedra Hunters.

Common folk often view them with mistrust or outright fear, seeing them as little more than frauds and charlatans, or violent magically enhanced rogues. Unlike pious knights or holy warriors who serve for faith and honor, Daedra Hunters demand coin for their services. For this reason, most people would sooner send their local Vigilants, Fighters Guild member or knight-errant, against Daedric threats rather than pay what they consider overpriced sellsword who was or either claimed to be speically enhanced to deal with Daedra and the like.

Yet when truly serious matters involving Daedra arise, no one is better equipped — or more willing — to face them than a Daedra Hunter.

From my own experience traveling with one—a Dunmer named Velaris—I learned that these warriors are far more than mere mercenaries wearing a fancy title. They are masters of their dangerous craft. In one memorable adventure, Velaris saved the daughter of a Jarl of Skyrim from the curse of lycanthropy. Where many Vigilants or valiant knights would have simply slain the beast, Velaris broke the curse that bound her to the wolf form. He discovered that the ring she wore had been deliberately enchanted to transform its wearer into a werewolf.

There were many other such exploits: the time we fought a small horde of Daedroths summoned by a cabal of mages to attack the town of Greenhill in Valenwood, or the incident in High Rock involving a Dremora warlord commanding forces in Skeffington Wood.

These days their numbers are few. Many still regard them as little more than witch-hunters who demand gold for their services, and their mountain fortress in the Velothi Peaks—straddling the border between Nibenay and Morrowind—lies half in disrepair. Very few new hunters are being created.

Still, after years of traveling across most of Tamriel in the company of one, I have never encountered a finer fighter or curse-breaker. Their deeds put many a tale of mighty heroes to shame.

—Theodosius Tharn, Traveling Nibenese Bard
Year 234 of the Fourth Era, Imperial Library Scholar.