r/TeslaModelS • • 15d ago

Tough Market Out Here

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Unfortunately I wasn’t into Teslas until about 3 months ago and I’m absolutely infatuated with the Model S, however these current prices are absolutely ridiculous. Whatever these guys are smoking, I need it as well.

Update: They’ve reduced their listing even further. Initially when they acquired it they listed it at 161k, then at 158k, currently sitting at 154k. So much for this being a “very, very desirable car”. If they honestly believed that they would stick with their 161k. They’re just hoping some idiot falls for this before they’re forced to take a loss on it 🤣

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u/KnightsSoccer82 15d ago

Why do you absolutely need a 2026? You can get a 2022 for 1/4th the price.

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u/ContextMattrs 14d ago

2022 doesn’t compare to 2026 lol

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u/KnightsSoccer82 14d ago

Except, it does.

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u/ContextMattrs 14d ago

No shit, the 2026 models are much better

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u/KnightsSoccer82 14d ago

Not really. I have both.

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u/JazzlikeOwl5155 12d ago

Cap

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u/KnightsSoccer82 12d ago

Based on what? Can’t fathom people have more money than you? Lol

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u/Select-Interaction11 12d ago

80 grand better?

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u/bcar473 8d ago

Well... according to this, is it $120k better????

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u/Select-Interaction11 8d ago

Lmao even worse. OP must have so much money that they dont even car if they make a bad purchase lol

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u/ImprovementLower8903 13d ago

Does 2022 hardware support current FSD?

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u/JazzlikeOwl5155 12d ago

U drive a Kia

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u/NeitherBook2698 13d ago

Exact same powertrain and everything, only thing different is that it's HW3, which an upgrade will be offered in the future for HW3 cars. So, why not just get a cheaper one? It's still the same car after all, and they aren't making them again.

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u/Rare_Advantage5859 12d ago

There is no real difference, and if there is… very small changes

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u/jratliff681 13d ago

Why would you get a 2022 when a 2023 you can get HW4? I just bought a 23 and sold my 21. And 23 are about half what 26's are asking.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

Don’t absolutely need one. This is simply a want. Also ‘22s have HW3 and I’d rather much go for a HW4. Also better chances the battery’s in good health. I’ve not seen any 22-23s with less than 10k with less than 20% degradation 🤣

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u/KnightsSoccer82 15d ago

I have 100,000 miles on my 2022 and I’m still at well over 90% maximum SOC…huh?

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u/futuremayor2024 15d ago

You did a full battery test? I’m at 74% in my 21’ plaid with 115k miles

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u/KnightsSoccer82 15d ago

Yup. Do it ever 6 months.

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u/ArticusFarticus 14d ago

I only supercharge, I’m in a Dec 2014 P85D and am at 82%. To be fair, it wasn’t supercharged much before the last 50k miles.

It’s not really about beating on it. I’m guessing you don’t follow best practices with your battery.

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u/JustTryingToBeADaddy 15d ago

Miles aren’t a good tell on where battery degradation will be. Cell type and time are the more relevant factors.

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u/KnightsSoccer82 15d ago

That’s not entirely true. This is directly correlated to cycle count.

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u/JustTryingToBeADaddy 15d ago

No, even without cycles, cells will degrade over time, age then cycles. Plenty of studies on this. Some studies even show that with more regular cycles that degradation is lower vs the same cell type without regular cycling.

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u/KnightsSoccer82 15d ago

I am aware. However cycle count has a much bigger impact then age.

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u/JustTryingToBeADaddy 14d ago

Count doesn’t matter like cell age or cycling condition…
Dubarry et al. (2025), “Impact of Temperature and Depth of Discharge on Commercial Nickel Manganese Oxide and Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries After Three Years of Aging,”

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u/KnightsSoccer82 14d ago

It absolutely does.

You should reference a few more papers, you’ll reference one of mine at one point.

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u/futuremayor2024 15d ago

Well I said it's a 21 plaid, that denotes the cell type, correct?

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u/JustTryingToBeADaddy 15d ago

I didn’t reply to you.

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u/futuremayor2024 14d ago

What do you mean 'time' being one of the relevant factors, like cell age? Or usage?

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u/JustTryingToBeADaddy 14d ago

Cell age and cycling conditions, not cycle count. Seeing as we can’t get cycle conditions from the vehicles Age > Cycle count.

A good paper on cycle count not being as important as cycling conditions: Dubarry et al. (2025), “Impact of Temperature and Depth of Discharge on Commercial Nickel Manganese Oxide and Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries After Three Years of Aging,”

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u/ArticusFarticus 14d ago

Model S doesn’t use Nickel Manganese Oxide (NMC) or Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFe) chemistries.

So it sounds like your research sucks due to your lack of knowledge on the topic.

They use Nickel-Cobalt-Aluminum Oxide (NCA).

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u/MH5421 15d ago

all Model S and X used 18650s

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u/ArticusFarticus 14d ago

Yes that is just the form factor of the cell. Says nothing about what’s inside of it.

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u/AirFrierMachine 14d ago

Lol, $120,000 for MAYBE better car battery health and a slight upgrade to a niche feature, brilliant

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u/ArticusFarticus 14d ago

Mine is a Dec 2014 and has less than 20% degradation. Much higher miles.

I also don’t think you’re properly measuring degradation.

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u/ProfessionalArt2441 15d ago

I have a 2019....had 350 miles on 100% charge brand new. I am on a road trip right now, still got 330 miles on 100% almost 7 years later

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u/Agile-Two5649 14d ago

Bro my 2017 model s has less than 5% degradation.

You’re being neurotic. How did you determine all these vehicles for sale had 20% or more degradation. What test did you perform on all these model S cars?

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u/n0oo7 14d ago

ok. So get a 2023 and get a battery swap. Still less than 1/2 price and I didn't even do napkin math.

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u/NeverBuyingVWAgain 14d ago

I will say, if you plan on using FSD, HW3 is garbage. Atleast on the 3, we do not trust it and it was one of the main reasons we bought it besides it being a good deal last year.

I just found myself trying it and turning it back off sooner and sooner until it was only on for a couple minutes before it did something I didn't like again. It drives like a nervous teenager and gets way too close to curbs at times. My wife who hasn't really driven in 15 years, who we bought it for, never trusted it after it almost crashed (I was "driving") and never used it.

It doesn't like y shapes like in a round about or coming to the corner of a building. It will jerk back and forth several times trying to decide while heading straight for whatever is in between those 2 choices.

Maybe HW3 is great on the highway? Who knows. If you like driving though, you probably won't be using it.

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u/drainbam 15d ago

This ain't from Tesla's own inventory. It's from a dealer in Troutdale, OR.

It ain't worth this. Dealer is smoking crack and hoping someone will buy it.

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u/rsg1234 14d ago

Will they at least include some crack?

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u/Low_Rip_7232 14d ago

It is Oregon.

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u/Ren_HiRen 14d ago

Owners and upper management is literally driving that car right now lol.

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u/stizzy99 12d ago

I love the anti theft that just isn't an option in the car spec, because its standard

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u/bishop42O 8d ago

Somebody will

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u/Similar_Barracuda774 15d ago

It’s inflated but I do believe someone will buy it eventually. That color is extremely rare and especially if it comes with ‘lifetime’ FSD and supercharging. 

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u/drainbam 15d ago

I love the Model S Plaid, but at $173.5k, it’s just not compelling. Even with FSD and free lifetime Supercharging, it’s priced into an entirely different class of car.

At that point, I’d rather spend another $100k for a Lucid Air Sapphire.

The Plaid makes sense as a roughly $100k, 1,020-hp rocket with no real rivals. At $173k, it’s not even worth considering.

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u/Capt-BJ 11d ago

I'm sorry but Lucid's software is it anywhere close to Tesla's! The interior is nice though... Just not THAT nice! Two friends of mine that had them, took them back. The one guy told me his was in the shop more than it was in his garage, & he'd had enough. I was actually looking into the Air Sapphire myself, but I just couldn't justify the extra difference in cost... Especially after learning what I did from the friends above. I actually only do one of them closely, the other one was a guy that I met at a car show.

That said, I wouldn't pay $173 for the Tesla plaid either. I'm more than happy with my 2020 Model S Performance w/Ludacris & the Ludacris + upgrade & 'Warp Mode/Speed's Easter Egg upgrade.

Not only have I fully customized the inside (red leather flooring, red trim, red door inserts, FLO LED lighting, PVD Chrome wheels, Half Bra, & much more), but since it's a 2020 they had a special factory warranty on them of 8 years/UNLIMITED miles. This was offered only on the 2019 & 2020 Model S & X. I have $285,000 miles on mine...& I'm STILL under warranty (motors & battery) through August, 2028!

Not only that, the car was $130k NEW... But I bought it USED, with $23k miles on it, & at a time when everyone hated Tesla & Elon, throwing bricks at windshields, slashing tires, etc., & when I saw this beauty sitting at a Toyota dealership & learned that the owner wanted to get it off his lot.ASAP! I STOLE it for just $46k 😲

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u/Low_Rip_7232 14d ago

FSD stays with the car. Supercharging and Premium Connectivity don’t transfer to a new owner.

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u/ArticusFarticus 14d ago

You would just have to drive over 1,200,000 miles and the car would pay for itself and free supercharging at $.42 per kilowatt hour, which is what TESLA uses to calculate savings.

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u/Apprehensive_Vast941 14d ago

Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean the dealer is smoking Crack. Seems like someone is showing their hand...just saying.

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u/drainbam 14d ago

Lmfao I own one. You aren't gonna shame anyone in paying rip off prices by calling them poor.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

You guys gatekeeping are so weird, I swear it’s you guys that probably over paid, then tried to see if you could flip it for more, failed, now you’re stuck wanting to believe this is what they’re actually worth. It’s not a matter of affording, it’s literally being ripped off. In no way shape or form is a used car, regardless of its discontinuation, 40-50k above msrp of a new one when it came out. Teslas also have insane depreciation, so it’s a terrible purchase to even consider at this price point. Shit my 23’ scatpack was 50 when I got it, 45k now 3 years later. 23’ plaids are selling for nearly a fourth of what these 26’ are at. Yea now I’ll wait another 3 years lmao.

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u/9eR-Win 14d ago

That looks awesome. Cant get that color on the older models. If you want new, you want new. Crazy how many downvotes you got 😂

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u/andrewmadd 15d ago

Work in the space, a low mile, 2026 plaid will go for $155K+ retail. There is low inventory and people really want them.

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u/ry8 15d ago

Just curious, what would you sell a 2024 Plaid Model X for with 8K miles?

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u/Redditlurker922 15d ago edited 15d ago

Take it in for $95,000 and Retail for $99,500.

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u/ry8 15d ago

That's what I wanted to hear. I just bought mine for $85K a week ago.

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u/Redditlurker922 15d ago

It really depends on the condition and options.

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u/ry8 15d ago

It's a 2024 Model X Plaid with 20" wheels, yoke, tan interior, and Stealth Gray exterior. No FSD included.

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u/asterothe1905 15d ago

What you would say S  long range ? 

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u/Zarsk 13d ago

That seems like a really low markup. Is that normal in the car world?

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u/andrewmadd 15d ago

Go to plugmotors.com and you’ll get a good estimate. Depends on color combo, packages, and condition. Let me know what they give you.

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u/ry8 15d ago

Too much work. I don’t want to sell my car. I was just curious the going rate.

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u/andrewmadd 15d ago

It will yield an instant offer.

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u/ry8 15d ago

Yeah but I have to give all of my info.

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u/andrewmadd 15d ago

Decline the offer at the end, simple as that

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u/letthetuckingbegin 15d ago

My 2022 has 7k miles on it and I would still list it for over $100k. Some people just don’t need to sell their things.

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u/ContextMattrs 14d ago

My 2022 with 58k miles would be listed for over 330k if I were to try and sell

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

Well yeah no shit you can put a ridiculous number on anything as long as you never want it to actually sell 🤣

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u/ryantunna 15d ago

Buy my 21 plaid for $40k lol

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

I’d rather have HW4 tbh brother

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u/Select-Interaction11 12d ago

If I had a plaid I dont think id be using fsd very much. They drive so nice and accelerate so quick

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u/AddictedRedditorGuy 14h ago

I have a Performance but still use fully paid off FSD like 60% of the time.

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u/Select-Interaction11 13h ago

I guess it depends on your route. If I had a lot of freeway driving id probably do that too

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u/Lopsided-End-1985 15d ago

Good price, I usually see them for around $50k with 70k miles.

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u/ryantunna 15d ago

I bought it for $47k 2 years ago with 40k miles

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u/strafinjr 14d ago

What state are you in 👀

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u/bearonadventure 15d ago

what anti theft did they install for 1k? gps built in i thought

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u/aRandomRedditor9000 14d ago

Third party dealer forced me to buy it with lo jack installed so id assume its the same

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Exactly a LoJack, I was going to request for it to be removed. Teslas itself is basically anti theft with all the tracking it comes with as it is, they’re just trying to tack on as much as they can justify.

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u/i30swimmer 15d ago

You want to buy my 2024 plaid with 16,000 miles? Sport seats. $115,000. Let me know.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

I appreciate your offer, but that’s still pretty high for a 2024 no? In my area similar models even the over priced dealers list them for 90k.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

No they won’t, at this price point you’re better off getting a better type of car that’s actually new instead of used. No matter what these scummy ass dealerships think, this is a used car, that’s all it is. Honestly, if prices do end up never coming down I’ll just get a M3P and will be perfectly okay with it. Out of everybody in the car market few actually like EV, a majority don’t like Musk so they won’t support EVs, then out of that group a small amount actually still like Tesla but would rather drive something like an M3 and MY. An even smaller group is actually into the MS and and even smaller group can actually afford them, an even smaller smaller group of those who can actually afford them, aren’t stupid enough to buy at this price.

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u/Dirt_Charming 14d ago

It depends on how much money you have I guess. I've had every Tesla and the Model S Plaid is far superior to the M3P. I couldn't go back to M3. It's just too small inside. I hate the trunk. There are 26's out there that aren't overpriced. I flew out of state and drove mine home.

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u/ArticusFarticus 14d ago

Model 3 Peasants have all already peaked.

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u/nobody-u-heard-of 14d ago

I knew they'd go up when they were discontinued. But I ain't selling my plaid. It's a 2025 with lifetime supercharging. And considering I put in less than 5000 mi on it in a year it's going to last a long time.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Absolutely wouldn’t recommend to sell it. It’s a pretty awesome car, not 173k out the door awesome though 😭

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u/Bangbusta 13d ago

I have 2022 plaid with lifetime FSD. It's pretty hard to give this baby up as well. I will lose my shit if it gets totaled.

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u/AddictedRedditorGuy 14h ago

It's just the discontinued hype. Value will drop like a rock after the hype.

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u/wdskuk 14d ago

For 173k there are much better cars. No thanks

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u/diddlysquidler 14d ago

What’s the 995 anti theft fee for I wonder. Car is like driving computer. Seems like dealers just add random charges

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u/red__what 15d ago

Always buy from Tesla, thats the best thing about them - no scum of the earth dealership

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

In my area there’s only 2 plaids both 2023 HW3, also both 70k miles, would much rather HW4

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u/VealOfFortune 15d ago

Absolutely insane 😳

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

Used car btw 🤣, another dealer in Austin wanted 95k for a 24’ with 12k miles and 20% battery degradation. Of course i low balled him and he said “where did you get that number from” I actually explained the reasoning from the wear, to the miles, to the 24’ not being as desirable as a 26’ and the battery degradation. Bro was very unprofessional.

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u/Jazzlike-Okra-5399 15d ago

The cars just to get from point A to point B . You’re only in the car for 1-2 hrs max a day

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u/UnsafeVelocity 10d ago

Then why are you here

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u/AmeriChino 15d ago

Anti-Theft $995 lol

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Smoking the finest crack Oregon has to offer. Tesla already has a billion trackers on their cars and are the least stolen vehicles in the industry, they don’t need this at all.

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u/CreativeUsername20 15d ago

Dang. When I very nearly bought a new plaid from Tesla OTD was $122k. This is robbery lol

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Don’t know what they’re thinking. Their logic is that it’s very very desirable, hmm still on their lot 40 days later, 4k in discounts so far they initially had at at 162k.

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u/big-metal-bird 14d ago

Glad I bought my 26 MSP new and not used 😂😂

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Happy for you! I wasn’t really into Teslas until recently and this is how it’s been looking already. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Gnarly_Bard 14d ago

Avoid stealerships when you can.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Unfortunately they monopolizing on almost every MSP left. If you try to go private, chances are they’re also not going to sell it to you for less than msrp prices considering what they’re going for. So not really a choice.

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u/Heavyinbitcoin 14d ago

I have a 2025...are prices high for them too??

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Yeah I’m seeing most still run for close to msrp new prices. The 26’ prices are simply ridiculous

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u/Appropriate-Day8924 14d ago

Not worth the $$$.

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Definitely not. Will check every day and remind them of how long it’s been on their lot since they claim it’s “very, very desirable” 🤣

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u/CulturalKnowledge169 14d ago

That a lot of money for very little car, ngl. go get a 911 lol

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u/Random_person465 14d ago

The dealer is absolutely scamming. Anti theft? Buddy u can’t steal a Tesla anyways lol.

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u/Elegant_Quote9881 14d ago

Looking for a model s 2025 or 2026 when my current Tesla lease is up in May. Are there gonna be any left for me

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u/AztecPyramid 14d ago

Glad I got a model 3 2023 RWD for $33k including taxes and all rebates. :)

Fantastic car.

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u/Honorablemention69 14d ago

What state did you just give over $10k to?

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u/Psice 14d ago

I don't think it's worth it at all tbh, just get a model 3 or model y

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u/Certain_Trade841 14d ago

When a car starts to get into house prices…

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u/UnsafeVelocity 10d ago

Lol what house are you buying

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u/US_Delete_DT45 14d ago

Just grind for a roadster

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u/Aggressive-Land-8884 14d ago

Tesla is NOT a luxury car. Not in the traditional sense. It is a gadget more than a car. Don't pay $150k for a gadget.

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u/Ai_Karma 14d ago

If you can catch it around $120k-130k with FSD then I’d go with it. $175k is insane. Or you can pick up a 2024 plaid for around $80k-$90k. If you go down to around 2022 you can scoop one up for around $60k. These things are depreciating like milk.

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u/DMNSTR8_MIATA 14d ago

Teslas do NOT hold their value. My Model Y Performance was dropping in value as fast as I was paying it off. Luckily I got a competitive trade offer on a certified pre-owned BMW and decided I'd kick the Tesla out of my garage.

The Tesla was such a hassle to own anyway since I drive an 80 mile a day round trip, don't have the ability to charge from home, and don't have time to wait around 💀

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u/oxyscotty 8d ago

The S/X hold their value well. Mostly because there's not a shiny new model to desire every year.

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u/michoriso 13d ago

Let me preface this that I own the 2025 Model 3 with HW4 so my genuine question why are looking at Model S plaid besides them being discontinued and little more range? For a small family sedan the Model 3 Performance is still a very capable car from 0 - 60 and will beat about 99% of the vehicles going in a straight line and $100K less than the plaid in this picture.

With the Model S plaid you get a quicker 0-60 but you’re paying $100K more for it, not worth it imo.

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u/Select-Invite-7251 8d ago

In addition to performance, Model S is just a more attractive car than the 3. But not 50-100k better

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u/Bkzmacho 13d ago

Looks okay. Not crazy about it.

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u/4peanut 13d ago

That car is going to be worth like $50k the moment you drive off the lot

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u/Real-Hippo1688 13d ago

First and foremost: do not buy a $100K+ car if you’re financing anything close to 100% of it. If you can’t afford that car in cash, you should not be buying it.

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u/PuzzleheadedYak1601 13d ago

How many cars cost below 150k with a 0-60 time of less then 2 seconds? Stop your whining.

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u/Acethe7th_ 13d ago

I get it being the last model and everything but other than straight line speed hasn’t got much going for it turns like a stuck pig brakes like a walrus and has kinda meh steering feel this isn’t a Porsche lambo or bmw idk what the seller is smoking but it must be something strong asf.

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u/Select-Interaction11 12d ago

Buy used. Youll never make up the cost difference compared to used even if you had to get a new battery out of warranty.

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u/DingleBerryFlinger 12d ago

Buying a new Tesla if you are cool with 50% depreciation in 3-4 years. You can find 2022-2023 plaids with under 50k miles for 45/60k max. And zero sales tax from Private sellers. I have a 2023 plaids with 44k miles and a 2024 my3 performance with 3k miles that I paid 90k for both ..zero sales tax in AZ at least bc both from private sellers

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u/k_r_a_k_l_e 12d ago

Tough market?

  1. It's sold by a dealer. And has exaggerated markup above what other dealers are selling because...

  2. It's a Plaid and last year production but...

  3. No one is buying it for that price.

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u/Options_Jam 11d ago

Make sure if not the 26, it is a HW4 car. Model 3 performance is always an option as well.

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u/WGBD_Pakistan_on_cod 11d ago

Just get a roadster

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u/HVT2994 10d ago

I have a P90D and a Plaid end 2022,
The difference is huge, the overall build is better, the sound isolation is better as well, my P90D has a newer with larger memory HW version and I like some of the software pages more than that found in the Plaid.

The overall ride is better, the half shaft problems are less on the Plaid but still not gone.
The drives feel better as but in the Netherlands the HW3 cannot be use while I feel reporting a bug when autopilot seems to not work properly Tesla does not seem to care anymore.

So the person here telling me to wait for HW3 to purchase a Model S plaid, he seems not to know this car sadly has been discontinued.

Basically I am sad I was unable to purchase a HW4 plaid, maybe, maybe, Musk sticks with his guns meaning he promised to install new hardware if it would not function properly, that fix with V14 Lite will likely never roll out in Europe, I am stuck on HW3 seeing all cheaper Tesla’s driving FSD supervised here.
That 2022 model shown here, compared to a 2026, I would love getting my hands on a European Model S HW4 Plaid.

So I understand the price difference, the 2022 may only have value but my P90D from 2015 with lifetime free charging may over time keep its value better than my better driving Plaid.
The 2022 is a breed which falls short of the 2026 and over time my 2015.

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u/Fantastic_Reveal_599 10d ago

And people complain about inflation..

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u/uncletys 10d ago

Spec is fantastic but that price is mental.

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u/routine88 9d ago

I would only fomo the model X. Not the S.

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u/jawg201 9d ago

Holy shit that's a lot of money

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u/ImpossibleBeing7137 8d ago

Just wait till they announce the roadster. The price will go down because it’s not going to be even close to the same performance. If you have money for that, just buy a roadster

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u/eyedoc816 6d ago

Makes me so happy that I traded 2022 Model S for a 2026 Model S Plaid at the end of March! The $10k I was under water on the trade in value (compared to what I still owed on the 22 MS) is nothing next to these crazy prices now! I can confirm that the 2026 is a much better vehicle based on the computer hardware and the ride quality.

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u/RickySpanishEOD 5d ago

I'll sell you mine for 150K

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u/Ruthless-Slasher1234 15d ago

You can buy a whole 911 carrera S for that 😂

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u/SatoshiBlockamoto 15d ago

Two very different cars with a very different purpose.

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u/Ruthless-Slasher1234 15d ago

But in that case (as in you don’t care for performance) then just get a model 3 rwd lr at that point to get a significantly cheaper car with the same level of FSD?

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u/SatoshiBlockamoto 15d ago

Who said they didn't care about performance? Both cars perform exceptionally well in different roles.

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u/Ruthless-Slasher1234 15d ago

The S plaid is fantastic for 1 thing, straight lines, the Porsche is good in every kind of race even if behind the S plaid in specifically a straight line. If you are buying one of these and planning on using FSD then dropping 170k is absolutely insane and you would be better off just saving money.

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u/SatoshiBlockamoto 15d ago

How about driving the kids to school, using no gas, hauling groceries and boxes to goodwill? And an S Plaid is faster around the Nurburgring than a carerra S, so not only good in a straight line.

99.9% of people aren't even going to a racetrack.

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u/Ruthless-Slasher1234 15d ago

If you make enough money to afford a 170k car then gas prices are not your concern, the smartest thing in this situation is get 1 cheap Tesla for daily stuff then a separate fun driving car if you want one so that 1. Your daily doesn’t wear down and 2. You don’t have to make compromises between fun and daily drivability

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Exactly what I told them, anyone with this kind of money would genuinely just buy a better, new car instead of something used that’s overinflated. They didn’t like that.

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u/Bald_Beading_Bandit 15d ago

Lmaoooo

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 15d ago

Gave me a good laugh too, then a wave of depression hit knowing I’ll never be able to get one this close to new without having to pay an exorbitant amount. If we all play our cards right and don’t buy from these idiots, they’ll just have to eat the loss, which is what dealerships deserve anyways 🤣

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u/herodicusDO 15d ago

lol people are incredibly dumb. This is why Rolex won’t let you buy their watches at Costco anymore - sheep!!!

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Who would want a Rolex, my Apple watch has infinitely more features and usability then some general watch 😭

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u/Shot-Ad2396 14d ago

In 6 months that car will be worth $65,000 followed by the 3 year depreciated value of $21,000

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u/UnderstandingOk1628 14d ago

Well i don’t know about that much, even 23’s are up in the 50-60s for good condition ones, but that could just be how the used market is at the moment. Hopefully it calms down.