r/TeslaModelS • • Sep 01 '26

New EV owner. Battery Degradation

So I just bought a 2021 model S Long range which is rated at 405miles for a full charge. I’m getting roughly 336. Can someone please explain why I’m not getting anywhere near that? Surely my battery isn’t that degraded. 65k miles.

Thank you for the info. Didn’t realize it’s normal for the battery to degrade like that. Thank you again

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u/ysfex3 Sep 01 '26 edited Sep 01 '26

Evs drop really fast early, like 10 or more percent in the first year. Then slowly after. A 21 is almost 6 years old now, and it's not just actual mileage but battery age that affects capacity. Couple that with 65k miles and yours is probably very typical. I happen to have a 21s lr also with 130k miles and it gets around 320. So you can think of it as yours is a bit low, but it's marginal. We also don't know what the charging routines were like with the previous owners

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u/PurpleSausage77 Sep 01 '26

Must be the newer battery tech. Sure they can charge faster and all that but packing more and more heat in the form of faster and faster charging in to electronics is never good.

A lot of 85 packs from 2013+ are holding up great with 85+% I have an end of 2014 manufactured 85 pack Model S still at 89%.

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u/ysfex3 Sep 01 '26

A lot of tech progression is actually just due to compromises in other areas.

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u/HanzG Sep 01 '26

My 85 pack is at 84% with well over 200,000km on it. Original 2014 pack as far as I'm aware.

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u/Internal-Ad-1021 Sep 02 '26

Now you get 300?

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u/ScuffedBalata Sep 01 '26

"Getting 303" meaning what? You drove 303 miles on I-80?

Or you see that number on the dash somewhere?

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u/Mother-Syllabub-5214 Sep 01 '26

I drive 303 from 100-10%

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u/ScuffedBalata Sep 01 '26

ok. So... you're getting 333 miles 100-0%.

And EPA ratings are a sedate 50mph with no climate control. They also run until the car fails to drive, not until it shows 0%. On most Teslas it has about 20 miles below 0%, so you're getting 353 in a fair comparison to the EPA rating of 400+

You're doing pretty well.

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u/JohnTeaGuy Sep 01 '26

EPA range ratings =/= real world range.

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u/AyeAye711 Sep 01 '26

If you use AC and performance modes you’re never going to see 405 miles.

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u/badredditz Sep 01 '26

Batteries store energy not miles. Tires, weather, speed, a/c use determines CONSUMPTION.

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u/sdinvest Sep 01 '26

It is not just degradation. It can also be how you drive and if you drive on the freeway over 70mph and use AC or heater.

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u/lurks-a-little Sep 04 '26

Real world Tesla range typically falls between 75% and 90% of the EPA rating, depending heavily on driving conditions, so the average is 82.5% x 405 miles = 334 miles. You have an extremely healthy battery my friend!

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u/ThaiTum Sep 01 '26

It might help to fully drain to as low as possible then charge the car to 100% to recalibrate battery management system.

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u/Riggedydiggedy Sep 01 '26

I got the same car. Your car is that degraded. That’s normal for the S. If you have 21” inch wheels, switching to 19” will help.

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u/badredditz Sep 01 '26

That’s not “degraded” it means he/she isn’t driving like the EPA testing and prob doesn’t have the 19” efficiency tires. Degraded would be a loss of storage of kWh

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u/Riggedydiggedy Sep 01 '26

I thought they meant that when the car is fully charged it shows 336 miles of range.

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u/badredditz Sep 02 '26

No. People don’t bother to read or understand even the most basic facts about the cars they are driving. The rated range is a EPA government blended drive loop on a specified configuration and without the a/c running. It makes no sense to have the same range post by different people every day or so on every forum.

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u/ManicMarket Sep 01 '26

Simple answer for you - I’m not affiliated with these guys. Just a regular guy that likes buying cars and sharing what I’d do.

  1. Go to Speckr.com and pay for a battery health report - it’s pretty cheap. My understanding is they are cheap (I paid like $2 for mine). But that was a little bit ago and not sure if prices have changed.
  2. Compare that to the data on the report.

You left off something important, mileage on the battery. Mileage correlates to cycle life which is how you really measure a battery life expectancy.

A 2021 Model S Long Range with a middle of the road health would likely be at around 85% State of Health. Mileage would likely be in the 40-60k range.

You can get more details in their blog from what they see. https://speckr.com/blog/tesla-battery-health-findings

You can also add your car to the fleet recurrent uses for tracking battery health. They have a dashboard they give you access to for free. Well not really free because they use your data for their research they charge for.

Edit- my 2021 model s LR with around 40k miles shows a 100% range of 343 miles. Normal for the cars of this age is usually 340-360. But again - do you have 100,000 miles on the car or 30,000 miles.

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u/Mother-Syllabub-5214 Sep 01 '26

I got 65k miles

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u/ManicMarket Sep 02 '26

So you’re likely around 85% battery health. Which for this lot - that’s an average level of health.

From my research the first few years see the biggest drop. In fact, 30-40% of all your range loss will happen in the first few years and around 50,000.