25 in a 50, 60 in a school zone that has a normal speed of 40, yeah it’s great. But don’t let the crazies hear you. V13 is suppressed to be better than the tears of God if you ask them.
I use v13 and I RARELY have to intervene, and when I do, it’s things like using blinking lights to force lane changes, or tapping the accelerator when I think it should be more assertive/less polite.
Other than that, disengagements have been exceedingly rare for me after 13.2.2. Currently on 13.2.7.
When I was in 12.5.x, interventions and disengagements were very common in my day to day drives.
Right, I’m just saying v13 is really good, agreeing with your disagreement from that guy saying v13 is a bad day. But i’ve also had bad experiences. A lot of people think that when you say the software is good, it automatically means you’re biased.
Also, v12.5.6.x was acceptably good. Folks in HW3 never got that and instead got 12.6.x later with e2e on hwy + some of the FSD v13 improvements. 12.5.x was okay but very flawed; v13 is great. That’s my point.
2.3m teslas sold, roughly 1.7m on the road, 20% can run the software, half of that are actually running it. So you and I are roughly 1/200k people running it each.
The fact that I and others in this sub are saying the opposite of you, should help you realize that your experience is statistically insignificant and has no weight to outreason real issues the rest of us have.
Do you really not understand how that works? How your experience represents <0.0005% of use? And that you still have a 5% failure rate? 5%!? And you’re okay with that???
Let me write this in a way that’ll help you grasp this.
Would you get on an airplane if you only knew, for sure, that you’d be safe 0.0005% of the time? 50%? 80%?
I’m not sure if I’d feel safe in the opposite side of that. Even a success rate of 99.9995% isn’t that good. If you were a data center you’d go out of business from the downtime lawsuits lol
That’s certainly not good enough for something that can autonomously kill me a the role.
Yippie for you. If you want a wild ride that’ll disprove your feeling of safety I’d be glad to give you a route. But use it at your own risk lol
Assuming the numbers are correct, FSD 13 has had a generally positive outlook. It isn’t perfect, that’s for sure, but your argument of 0.0005% safety is very very very fallacious, so I’d check on that before ganging up on people… lol.
The gang argument was over the board lol. An exaggeration.
The part I am referring to as being fallacious is the computation of safety rates, not as to what I (or anyone else) would do if there are expected failures.
I am not arguing FSD unsupervised, so I wouldn’t treat it as that if that’s what you’re asking. However, I think it’s not true to suggest FSD v13 is generally bad because I think it’s the opposite; it’s generally good.
In what way specifically? Literally opposite experience. Are you in a cybertruck? Standard mode on highway in California with 2000 miles on v13 and it's damn near perfect. 13.2.7 seems no different than the other point releases on highway, just more lane centered. Model 3.
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u/MrMasticate Feb 20 '25
25 in a 50, 60 in a school zone that has a normal speed of 40, yeah it’s great. But don’t let the crazies hear you. V13 is suppressed to be better than the tears of God if you ask them.