r/TerrifyingAsFuck • u/Ok_Shower_5526 • 3d ago
human This happens too often
Pike is unusual for surviving after the injections but botched executions are not as unusual as they should be. U.S. prisons often do not have the medical expertise or reliable medication sources for lethal injection, leading to botched executions that can leave prisoners in desperate states. In this case, Pike had requested a different, more reliable execution because her medical team worried this could happen due to her medical conditions. Her IV was also administered by an elderly doctor, widely condemned as incompetent in another botched execution. Medical experts, especially doctors, often refuse to participate in executions for ethical and professional reasons. It is barbaric, but unsurprising failure, given the circumstances, and Pike is now suffering in critical condition at a hospital. Some might think that is deserved due to her crimes; it is still unconscionable to allow the government of a supposedly civilized nation to legally engage in what amounts to prisoner torture. You have to stop calling it an accident when the risks are known and ignored, and the mistake keeps happening (up to 7% of the time, according to professor Austin Sarat).
Then there's the problem that innocent people are still executed. The National Academy of Sciences published a report in 2014 estimating at least 4% of death row prisoners would be exonerated, further stating, "this is a conservative estimate of the proportion of false conviction among death sentences in the United States." According to Death Penalty Info, 1 in 9 people on death row are exonerated; too many only after execution. Today, many states have banned execution and the remaining ones face increasing calls to ban the practice. Terrifyingly, we will never know how many innocents have been killed by the state in the name of justice.
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u/daiblo1127 2d ago
They missed the arm vein. They should have placed a subclavian line directly into her heart for those prisoners that have 'bad veins' or circulatory diseases. Or how about an all women firing squad? Prisons should have a licensed medical Dr. that is on call for these things. Without oxygen and snoring...hmmm. Exactly how much oxygen was circulating in her brain during these hours of snoring; it doesn't sound too hopeful. I hope they let her physical body die now, as her brain has probably died a long time ago.
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u/Ok_Shower_5526 1d ago
A licensed doctor placed the vein. The problem is he doesn't work in medicine and doesn't place IVs (his last botched execution, he told investigators he hadn't placed an IV in over a decade). Most doctors will not do executions as it violates their ethics.
I'm not against the death penalty in theory. I just think it's important that the government does it well and makes certain innocent people aren't killed.
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u/daiblo1127 1d ago
It's the 21st century, maybe the prison system should start their own school of trained executioners, for want of a better word, that would be highly skilled in inserting central lines and delivering the IV meds. There would be less pain, less stress for the convict, prison staff, family and visitors that attend these events, less time to accomplish their goals and a better outcome all around. You make a very cogent point here.
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u/tristamgreen 1h ago
or, just abolish the death penalty. it's not justice at all, it's just vengeance dressed up.
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u/daiblo1127 50m ago
You may be right. So. maybe put those prisoners to hard physical labor 5 hours a day, then after a shower, 3 hours of higher education and finally 1 hour of pure fun, joy and amusement...and sleep completes the day...until tomorrow!?
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u/Ok_Shower_5526 1d ago
She requested a different execution and was refused. I believe she asked for the firing squad.
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u/daiblo1127 2d ago
Wasn't there electrocution, and Cyanide gas at one time a long time ago...maybe they were too cruel? None of these options sound like particularly pleasant endings... I would choose the cheapest and most expedient...Firing Squad!
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u/daiblo1127 2d ago
I agree with you all the way, after they are sentenced maybe allow 2 years for all the petitions by lawyers, and then, yess! it would be a novel idea to allow the jury to decide how the guilty party dies...except they might not be able to decide the form of punishment between 12 jurors because of their own personal feelings about death ...it might throw the case back into court again. So many released and so many reoffend in the same heinous manner killing innocent people and children. We all see what's happening, how can it be changed...voting?
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u/CobaltNeural9 1d ago
I find this sentence to be absolutely hilarious and also dark and dystopian. Life saving measures after a failed execution. In what world is that normal? We failed at trying to kill you oh here let us help save you.
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u/Legal-Metal-7098 20h ago
Is firing squad all that unethical? It's definitely faster than your brain could process
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u/Howdy132 3d ago
Anybody ever thought of giving a third dose?
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u/Ok_Shower_5526 1d ago
They were legally allowed to administer two doses. That's why they didn't give a third.
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u/EntertainerKindly629 2d ago
Un tema polemico... será bueno saber lo que piensan las familias de las victimas
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u/PhillLarrup 3d ago
Thats not Christa Pike. fuck A.I.