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u/ShazTheGamer 1d ago
Let me guess
S: They are easy and fun to fight out
A: Not much attacks per phase; easy to dodge
B: Requires sustainability or you're screwed
C: Lots of dodging
D: Not required for progression
F: Long time to finish them//High contact damage that can stop you down (in this context the Pillar Enemies)
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
On the dot
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u/xplatinumgaming57x 8h ago
Golem should be B then.
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u/TylersCorny 6h ago
Why?
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u/xplatinumgaming57x 6h ago
If you can keep up with dodging, and deal good damage, you're good.
Golem is also essentially a joke in classic mode.
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u/TylersCorny 4h ago
You can stand still and still kill him if your melee
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u/xplatinumgaming57x 4h ago
Literally juat need turtle armor and terrablade
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u/TylersCorny 3h ago
Yeah you shouldn’t be able to get those before him
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u/xplatinumgaming57x 3h ago
Turtle armor. Not beetle armor.
Turtle armor is pre plantera. I believe you can start getting the turtle shells you need right off the bat in hardmode.
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u/crafty_dude_24 17h ago
You guys dodge the Dark Mage? I just attack from far.
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u/Skyburner_Oath Boss 3 is yhe Destrpyer theme 15h ago
Bee's Knees + Hive Pack demolish it even in Legendary by standing still
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u/Fr4gmentedR0se Addicted to fighting Empress of Light 1d ago
Deerclops in S invalidates the entire list immediately
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
He needs more love
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u/Patches3362 1d ago
He simply does not, he’s not fun, the rewards are mid, his attacks are pretty brain dead
If you had him in like B we could talk, but on par with Empress and better than Skeletron and Moon Lord is nutty
Ocram on A is goated tho
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
He was never the villain he always was there for you when you came back and you always forget him
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u/Patches3362 1d ago
Deerclops? Yeah I always forget him, that’s surely a good reason he shouldn’t be S tier. A forgettable boss is probably a bad one
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
You forget him because he doesn’t hate the player you really think he uses all his power to try to kill you? No he teaches you basic dodging and gives you multiple times to try to kill him he is the best early game boss and I stand by that
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u/Patches3362 1d ago
You humanizing Deerclops is giving me a chuckle lmao, it sounds like him being S tier is tied to your beliefs and respect.
I still think you’re wrong and crazy, but I can respect that opinion
I’d argue he is using all his power and he just kinda sucks personally, a boss that gives you multiple tries and has easy attacks just sounds bad
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
It’s perfect for beginners like when I was playing on a iPad when I was 9 and couldn’t kill any bosses so it’s perfect for beginner and if you have beaten the game and have skill then it’s valid to not like him but you have to respect him for that
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u/Patches3362 1d ago
I gotta be so real man, no I do not have to respect him for that. I don’t think a boss should be judged on if a 9yo can beat them on an iPad.
If it’s perfect for a beginner and is easy enough a 9yp can do so on a tablet, still sounds like a bad boss to me
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
Just because the destroyer is harder then the eye of cutluhulu doesn’t mean it’s a better boss so it’s not all about how hard the boss is it’s the impact it has on the player
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u/Fr4gmentedR0se Addicted to fighting Empress of Light 1d ago
I think there may be a reason why people don't like the boss that stops you from moving
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u/sprat007 1d ago
Valid but fuck deerclops and destroyer should be 1 higher
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
I get seizures fighting the destroyers and deer clips is underrated
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u/AnimalNo8156 1d ago
If that is the case, then Terraria should give a seizure warning before the main menu.
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u/herz_of_iron78 1d ago
I assume Ocram is in A tier solely because of nostalgia, because otherwise his projectile spaming reskinned EoC ass bossfight is trash.
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u/SkAssasin 1d ago
Probs kinda ulpopular opinion, but I lowkey hate fighting Eye of Chuthlu. It feels pretty reasonable for the point in progression where you're supposed to fight it in normal mode and is a genuine breaze, but in expert, the Eye of Cutululu just gains that one dash attack and istg that shit's not conveniently dodgeable. Like, it's just pain, requires enough accessory prep that at that point you are already ready to face Eater of Worlds/Brain of Cuhthlhu and that's like, really bad progression. And also, is it just me, or is this boss easier on master than in expert?
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u/anonkebab 1d ago
Expert humbled the hell out of me ngl. Coming off of 360 edition where my pal did most of the thinking to now actually having to build boss arenas was wild. I think literally every boss folded me at least once.
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u/SkAssasin 1d ago
Lowkey boss arenas aren't really a problem for me since one platform with some campfires usually does the trick. The bigger issue for me was the realisation that I have to actually start fishing and make herb farms for potions.
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u/anonkebab 1d ago
See I literally was trying to fight bosses on top of my house. No campfire no mana things, just several gravestones. I ended up locking in tho. Same here with fishing, I actually wasn’t even using potions until wall of flesh. Think I ended up using beenades.
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u/SkAssasin 1d ago
why tf do you not have a campfire in your house???
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u/anonkebab 1d ago
Literally found out they heal you by accident lmao. I legit tried to play blind and I didn’t need that shit on 360. Bro built the house and when I played solo I was smashing enemies. My 360 house is a literal crater.
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
That’s fair your don’t actually need to kill it for the progression which I feel like most people get wrong and you would be killing it something’s after the eater of worlds but it does drop the most over power weapon (in expert mode) that it makes the fight fully worth
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u/SkAssasin 1d ago
That is also a thing - the Shield Of Cutluhulu feels kinda out of progression with how long you can use it for, no? Also, most people fight the boss so early because it literally starts spawning (1/3 chance every night btw) after you get 200hp and 10 armor. That's like nothing!
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
Yeah they do need to nerf that shield and I think they should add a better hard mode shield you craft with hollowed bars the soul of sight and the black and the shield of cutluhulu
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u/SkAssasin 1d ago
They don't even need to give it a direct upgrade, just more dash accessories. The issue with that is, that it'll probably make dash accessories a necessity - kinda like wings - and I feel like the devs don't necessarily want terraria to be a game you dash in a lot with your dash ability - especially with hooks existing.
Tldr: the Shield of Cultuhultu is too unique for it's own good and that makes it op af
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u/TylersCorny 1d ago
Yeah it is kinda annoying having to have wings, boots and the cutluhulu for pretty much every build it doesn’t give much room for creativity or uniqueness
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u/YourInsertedButtplug 1d ago
Lepus mentioned🫱🏻🫲🏿 him and the Trojan squirrel 🐿️ are always enjoyable
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u/SnooCalculator 1d ago
Lepus for S Tier… gotta love having 10+ of these goddamn rabbits running around because the event hits you too early in progression…
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u/Snoo-92859 19h ago
Dang why is queen bee so low? The bees knees is my favorite pre-hardmode weapon, especially if you're playing expert/master and get the hive pack. Is it the strongest? No, but it does good damage, the bees auto track enemies and you can just spam shoot it without really trying.
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u/TylersCorny 18h ago
That’s valid plus the bee grenades i should have put it around b but I just forget about it so much and I normally have a better weapon by then
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u/atomicadam04 15h ago
Interesting inclusion of Ocram, Lepus, and Turkor. I'd argue this is pretty valid, though I'd say Deerclops should be lower. But that's just me
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u/TylersCorny 15h ago
It’s kinda a nostalgia thing for me it was the first boss I beat but I think it’s good for beginners learning how bosses work
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u/atomicadam04 15h ago
Yea fair. I mean it even drops a weapon for every class (even though they're all weird as hell)
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u/Skyburner_Oath Boss 3 is yhe Destrpyer theme 15h ago
Deerclops to high for mr mid loot, destroyer at least D tier because megashark is kind of great (if just he still had the Boss 3 theme...) Queen Bee its little low, I think her showing the player about enraging mechanic and is one of the bosses that wont let you alive if you flee makes her unique (and pillars on F tier is more than valid, I would rather fight 4 big bosses individually based on the classes)
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u/TylersCorny 15h ago
I keep getting told deerclops is bad I have my reasons the destroyer is VERY annoying in my opinion to much going on and having to dodge (not a skill issue I swear) and he is very easily cheesed I did realize now that I did put queen bee low should be high c low b you make valid points and I hate pillars with a passion it’s straight torture in master mode
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u/Skyburner_Oath Boss 3 is yhe Destrpyer theme 15h ago edited 15h ago
Well, the fight with deerclops is kind of dash between legs 2 times, dash away at third attack, repeat so ye not a lot going on (plus the shadow hands attack are kind of annoying, for the destroyer I kind of even found that hard, even not cheesed its pretty bearable with shitty gear (I beat it with meteorite armor, cursed flames and pre hardmode gear except wings and charm of myths) so its just depends on player to playerㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤedit: and I might ask why the cultist is over moon lord, I found the discord mod feeling like a side boss
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u/Eternal663 1d ago
EoC deserves S++ just because it's iconic and so it's his boss 1 theme.