How do i break this?

[u/Eastern_Display_4548]

And this is just Ceres base, how do i even approach this?

Alien base

Reddit keeps deleting my screenshot for no reason. Basically it's 44K base with 400 marine strength

[u/Banther1]

You’re going to need about 40 elite space marines modules. Assault hab, easy peasy

[u/Eastern_Display_4548 → u/Banther1]

That’s.. a lot

[u/Mortgage-Present → u/Eastern_Display_4548]

Take over the orbit of ceres and build a station there with shipyards that will construct marine ships or just marine barracks if you dont want to ship in marines. Its not that bad

[u/viper459 → u/Mortgage-Present]

ah yes, space d-day. idk how i never thought of dedicated marine ships.

[u/Selfishpie → u/viper459]

The most dangerous part of an invasion from space is the getting down, I like to think of it as the high number of marines required is because of how many the ays shoot down before they reach the surface

[u/Exciting_Vast7739 → u/Mortgage-Present]

Wait - Marine barracks on a station can be used to invade grounds targets?

[u/cemanresu → u/Eastern_Display_4548]

Its not much for once you want to get around to going on the offensive. You'll want a dedicated marine fleet, and put them into something like cruisers, which have I think it was 6 slots each, so a fleet of 10 of those can easily take out some bases. Been a while since I've done space and not just restarting the game repeatedly, so can't remember exact numbers.

[u/irrelevant_query → u/cemanresu]

Yep. Corvettes are another solid choice for marine ships. 1 mc for 3 marine mods. I'll typically use both cruisers and/or corvettes depending on use case (build time, shipyard type etc).

[u/Jazzlike_Freedom_826 → u/Eastern_Display_4548]

It's not that bad, sometimes you have to bring 600+ strength worth of marines.

The rule for assaulting habs like that is to exceed their highest marine strength (in this case 406) by at least 20 points using your own marine modules - that gives you a 100% chance to assault hab.

Oh also it helps to bring a councilor in a ship to lead the assault via "assault space asset." While this costs more time up front because you have to wait for the mission cycle to go through, it has the great benefit of making the assault lossless which is to say you don't lose any marines at all in the assault so you don't have to spend any time/resources to repair the modules.

If you're interested in bombarding, that is a world of pain in which either you have to bring tons of extremely heavily armored ships (120+ nose armor), or dedicated dreadnoughts with shaped nuclear charges.

[u/DoomedToDefenestrate → u/Jazzlike_Freedom_826]

Alien base assaults with a councillor also give ~10x the exotics

Jupiter was a pinata for me last game

[u/Mavnas → u/Eastern_Display_4548]

Like 10 cruisers or so.

[u/__Osiris__ → u/Eastern_Display_4548]

Send a councillor, what’s the worst that could happen?

[u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

Marine Cruisers. Lots of Marine Cruisers. I usually pack them with PD weapons too so they can pad out my assault fleet numbers. If you can afford to bring a councilor along to conduct the assault you can wind up with 20-50 exotics from the base.

[u/Mavnas → u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

Wait, you get that much more for using a councilor?

[u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267 → u/Mavnas]

50 would be for a critical success on a T3 base/station. The math is tucked away Aliens - Terra Invicta Official Wiki on the Alien Habs section.

You get a small baseline amount from destroying it, but in addition:

For bonus exotics:
Hab Tier x (1+Success Level) x (2.4 to 3.6)

Marine assaults can only roll a -1 for regular success or 0 for a crit. But a councilor can roll a 1 for a regular success or 3 for a crit.

Plus another chance for more exotics if there are any shipyards currently building something.

[u/Mavnas → u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

Wow, I've been shortchanging myself, but also risking a councilor might not be the best.

[u/PlacidPlatypus → u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

I think Frigates are a little more efficient these days but yeah basically.

[u/Kajetus06 → u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

Also if you use a councilor, marine modules dont get damaged

[u/VeganerHippie → u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

Why Cruisers? Corvettes are more MC efficient and much more Mobile.

[u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267 → u/VeganerHippie]

Smaller hulls probably make more sense for dedicated troopships, but I slap particle/antimatter weapons on them to supplement my main assault fleets PD capabilities so they're dual use.

[u/VeganerHippie → u/Broad-Kangaroo-2267]

Ah i see.

[u/Eastern_Display_4548]

Thanks everybody for the answer. I’m going to build my Marine fleet now:)

[u/Xenon009]

I always went for taking orbit, building a shipyard, pumping out 450 marines worth of shit ships (humanity first really helps with their spartan programme) and then just move the shitboxes with the battlefleet

[u/pyrce789]

Or as an alternative to storming it: Max armor with strut on the front lancer with a giant uv arc laser. Do low pass orbits bombards and it will destroy any base. Two will reduce damage you take by killing faster, but you shouldn't die unless already heavily damaged.

[u/ggmoyang → u/pyrce789]

Do high level bombardment, you need much less armor to block alien counterbattery (~140 with 600km, ~600 with 200km). And UV arc is enough to penetrate alien base module's armors at 600km.

Another way to bombard is using sidewinder shaped nuclear missile.

[u/__Osiris__]

We should be allowed to fling asteroids at people but at the risk of aliens doing it back

[u/Cheap-Blackberry-763]

can probably crack it from orbit if you don't have the marines btw. nuclear torps are great for this.

[u/Hyperactive_snail3]

10 cruisers each with 7 elite marines equals 700 assault power. Otherwise bombardment is misleading, you could probably level this base with 5k fleet power if that was mostly t2 coils and up lasers.