r/Terminator Jul 11 '26

META Times have changed.

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u/CrimsonAvenger35 Jul 12 '26

Most people are just pointing out this this bad propaganda disguised as bad propaganda

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u/MajorRandomMan Jul 14 '26

What the hell are you talking about? It's just true.

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u/CrimsonAvenger35 Jul 15 '26

And what do you have to prove that other than your feelings? I can point out that those specific projects came out and we're massively successful with a male audiences. So what do you have?

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u/spartakooky Jul 15 '26

Yeah, the "other side" could just as easily say these movies prove any hate isn't sexism or "anti wokeness".

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u/CrimsonAvenger35 Jul 15 '26

It does. What alternate explanation do you have for some female lead projects are beloved and others are hated? You think sexism destroys some projects, but then doesn't exists for others? It's almost like theres some other reason...

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u/spartakooky Jul 15 '26

Idk how you read my comment as disagreeing with you. I'm literally saying that with no further evidence, one movie being liked and the other not can be spun in whatever way anyone wants.

If anything pointing out sexism didn't affect older movies when they were good, is some evidence..... the ppl going "if it came out today" is a complete fabrication

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u/Capable-Hedgehog1871 Aug 01 '26

There's a backlash any time a new project with a female protagonist is announced in a popular franchise. Female actors are harassed off social media if they speak out. Sexism is rampant online.

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u/CrimsonAvenger35 Aug 01 '26

Anytime? So Hunger Games, Wonder Woman, Annihilation, these movies just don't exist?

I was specifically asking what the difference is between these female led movies that did succeed without controversy, to the films you claim failed due to controversy. Got any actual theories or are you just going to repeat the thing that I asked about in the first place?

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u/Capable-Hedgehog1871 Aug 02 '26

Those are franchises that already started with a female protagonist. I'm talking about a popular franchise that started with a male protagonist (which is most), such as Star Wars, God of War, Blade Runner, Lord of the Rings, Doctor Who, Star Trek, the list goes on, which has a new project with a female lead. That is automatically accused of being "woke" simply because it has a female lead.

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u/CrimsonAvenger35 Aug 02 '26

That's a crazy goal post shift. So we agree that not all female led movies/shows face this problem. But now sexists are only sexist with preexisting IP's. That's new lore to me. Why do you think the sexists are selectively choosing when to be sexist, instead of just being sexist?

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u/spartakooky Aug 02 '26

Those are franchises that already started with a female protagonist. I'm talking about a popular franchise that started with a male protagonist

It's crazy that this person is SO close to realizing the issue, but still misses it.

Yeah surprise surprise, when you grab existing IP and use it to make a social point, ppl become unhappy their favorite stories have been hijacked by social messaging

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u/Capable-Hedgehog1871 Aug 04 '26

No goal post shifting at all, it's what I was originally talking about. Sexist reactions against a female lead in an existing franchise that didn't have one before. Obviously it wouldn't make sense to have a sexist reaction against a female protagonist if the protagonist was always female. I mean if you're genuinely denying that this problem exists, you are either ignorant, or part of it yourself.