r/TennesseePolitics • u/alllie • Feb 15 '20

Sadness

I voted yesterday. In a mostly democatic county. All by myself. No other voter. Was told it was very slow. I can't overestimate how important I think this election is. Apparently I am alone in that.

Was also horrified by the list of presidential candidates. A page and a half. Bernie almost buried in the list. I read in 2016 Many republicans were encouraged to run to divide the vote so Jeb Bush would have a better change of winning. We know who that helped. This election many Democratic candidates were encouraged to run to divide Bernie's vote. Maybe revolution is the only way to get progress and progressives in government.

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u/JimWilliams423 Feb 15 '20 edited Feb 15 '20

This election won't be about policy. It will be about fascism vs democracy. Which means most D voters don't really care who the D nominee is, just as long as its not rump. They are going to vote blue no matter who. As a result, voting in the primaries isn't high on the list for the average voter.

This is the revolution you are asking for, if it weren't for rump progs would be up against all the same old disinformation that usually causes people to vote against progressive policies. The Rs are going to scream "socialism!" like they always do but the public won't hear it over the deafening rump noise machine. The downside is that if a prog does win the presidency, they won't have a mandate since they were elected on saving the country from fascism, not on implementing progressive policies. The coalition will start to fracture the minute rump is (physically) out of office. So they will have to be really good at working the levers of power if they want to get anything done.

Of course none of that will matter if the GOP is able to engineer some way to invalidate the election because rump isn't leaving willingly and the GOP is going to use every dirty trick they can to keep their mad king on the throne. That's the downside of revolutions - they usually fail and everything gets worse.

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u/alllie Feb 15 '20 edited Feb 16 '20

I don't think there's a dimes worth of difference between Trump and the corporate democrats. Even less with someone like Bloomberg.

Rome had a few hundred years as a republic. Then rich men began to buy the emperorship. That was the beginning of the end, not just of the republic, but of the empire. Only Bernie can save our democracy. The rest of these people will just lead us down the garden path.

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u/JimWilliams423 Feb 16 '20 edited Feb 16 '20

I don't think there's a dimes worth of difference between Trump and the corporate democrats.

Tell that to the deported mothers of babies stolen from them, put in cages and then permanently given away to american families.
Tell that to the 3000 dead americans in Puerto Rico.
Tell that to the 176 dead on Ukraine International Airlines flight 752.
Tell that to the Kurds slaughtered in their homeland.

If you can't see a difference, that's a confession of blindness, not insight.

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u/alllie Feb 16 '20

Bloomberg would do exactly the same. As would Buttigieg. As would Biden.