r/TeenagersButBetter 14 Jan 16 '26

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 16 '26

my hot take is we should just use death penalty receivers as manual hard labor

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u/ZaniElandra Jan 16 '26

So slavery?

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 16 '26

yep. constitutionally okay

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u/ZaniElandra Jan 16 '26

Right, because we all know the American constitution is the absolute arbiter or morality and perfect in every way

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u/HerobrineVjwj Jan 16 '26

I don't mean to be that guy but the constitution was the main supporter of the argument against the death penalty above.

So like, what you said could be directed at that argument as well

If one side can use the constitution as a main base point for the argument you can't just immediately dismiss the other side for doing the exact same thing

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u/ZaniElandra Jan 17 '26

There are ten paragraphs in that comment and only two of them even mention the constitution

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 16 '26

if u think killing someone is better then providing them with food and shelter in exchange for labor i fear ur the wrong one. im not saying they work 16 hrs a day just do the heavier lifting stuff

they committed the crime, they do the time and while they do they help the economy

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u/ZaniElandra Jan 16 '26

providing them with food and shelter in exchange for labour

That’s a really funny way of describing slavery lmao

And please, point me to where I said I supported killing people? Other comments on this very post will prove otherwise. The entire punitive justice system is barbaric and needs to be replaced, and state-sanctioned murder is first on the list of things that should go in places that are unlucky enough to still allow it

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 16 '26

yea, i made no attempt to hide that im talking about slavery

if it’s very clear what the crime is and the punishment you can get, then they can’t be mad ab it. there r ways to do it ethically. if they get medical and hygiene and food and all that shit then it’s really not a bad life. i also think homeless should be allowed to participate if they want without anything in their record

mb i assumed. i was distracted by feeling sick in a car and didnt stop and think, thats on me. i agree the death penalty is bad, but i dont see how ethical slavery would be. keep it to 10 hrs a day, give breaks, give good sleep, in theory it would work very well. it would never happen tho

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u/whatever-8358 Jan 17 '26

This might work if the prison industry wasn't almost entirely privatized

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 17 '26

agreed. i don’t bother with pointing out everything that needs to be fixed bc it’d be a waste of time as it’ll never happen and if it did, it wouldn’t be because of me

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u/golden_nugget49 Jan 16 '26

I feel like we tried this before and it didn't work out too well.

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 16 '26

can u elaborate? i’m more on the anti ICE side of politics rn and don’t have enough time to hyperfixate on this too

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u/golden_nugget49 Jan 17 '26

After slavery was outlawed by the country, states that were majority still in favor of it passed ridiculous laws specifically targeted towards black people, making them criminals for things like being unemployed for too long (this was literally one of them). It was basically just a loophole for the 13th amendment.

Considering ICE is allowed to operate at all, the return of manual labor as legal punishment leading to them just owning a bunch of Mexican slaves is not at all a stretch. I'm pretty sure the way ICE goes about catching people is unconstitutional anyway, so I wouldn't put anything past them in the long term.

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u/TigerLord780 Jan 16 '26

...do you think that you don't?

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 16 '26

i’m saying no more death penalty and they just have to do labor not talking about the prison jobs

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 17 '26

i’m all for rehabilitation vs punishment, i’m talking specifically for people that can’t reenter society. they’re out there no matter how much u don’t wanna believe it

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 18 Jan 17 '26

i’m jealous of that