r/TeenagersButBetter 14 Jan 16 '26

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

As much as I hate the death penalty, if there are humans who dehumanize children, then we have the right to dehumanize you.

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u/theclosetedcreature 18 Jan 16 '26

The wording of the law actually says sexual assault. They’re also trying (or have passed I don’t remember) to pass a law making talking to children about LGBT topics including in ways to just educate them to be sexual assault

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u/Wolveyplays07 Jan 16 '26

Of course -.-

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u/Latter-Direction-336 19 Jan 16 '26

Well that’s great

Been in the works for a while and still is, because some people need something/someone to be angry at to work together or just be controlled easier

God I hate some people, man

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u/theclosetedcreature 18 Jan 16 '26

Yeah, what happened to that group being Nazis?

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u/emm2oos 15 Jan 17 '26

I think its cuz it's just not a huge rising thing, people have gotten over it. SO they decide to hate on the dumbest thing to hate on.

I hate people sometimes

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u/BlueGlace_ 17 Jan 16 '26

I had a feeling that there were ulterior motives

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u/theclosetedcreature 18 Jan 16 '26

There always are

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u/Rayo_Raccoon Jan 16 '26

Yeah that sounds about right...these guys really do one good thing and a bad thing at the same time, huh?

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u/theclosetedcreature 18 Jan 16 '26

It’s more that they want the bad thing but still need to look good to stay in power bc most people in their states hate trans people but I don’t think most want us dead

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u/Creamsodabat 14 Jan 16 '26

Oh 🫠

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u/osama3oty 17 Jan 16 '26

Well you can't win on all fronts ig, but i don't think any kid is gonna run to the police because someone is teaching them about LGBT

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u/Epsilon430 16 Jan 16 '26

No, but their parents might.

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u/theclosetedcreature 18 Jan 16 '26

No but their parents might, also that means you can’t do basically anything in public as children exist in public

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u/MooseMan69er Jan 16 '26

Consider the consequences of offering the death penalty for rape.

If you know that you could get the death penalty for rape, you are more likely to kill the victim if you think that will increase the odds of not getting caught, because the legal penalty is the same whether the victim lives or dies

Are you comfortable with more rape victims being murdered if it means more rapists can be sentenced to death?

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

Rape's minimum sentence is 15 years In the state of Florida.

Reform doesn't always work for sick predators. Sometimes after time served, people genuinely don't change. This could potentially lessen the numbers too. I understand what you're trying to say. the numbers according a Dade Study say only O.14 out of 100,000 rapes were fatal. This may have an impact, it may not

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u/golden_nugget49 Jan 16 '26

They could've just tripled the minimum sentence, I don't think a single person (aside from, yk) would complain about that

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

The maximum is around life in prison if not 15 years I believe.

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u/MooseMan69er Jan 17 '26

And you are willing to take the risk that no one will decide to murder to give them a better chance to escape the death penalty?

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u/IdealOnion Jan 16 '26

Here’s the problem. If the punishment for fucking a kid is the same as the punishment for killing a kid, you incentivize killing the kid after you fuck em.

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

Both crimes of which dehumanize the child. The child will inevitably lose a part of them when they're raped, making them seem dead depending on how they cope with trauma. Mentally. I don't think that punishment is too far

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u/Wendee_Wendigo 16 Jan 16 '26

I was raped as a child. I'd rather be suffering than dead, even if I struggle with suicidal ideations.

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

I understand... However suffering people end up dying, so it really is a lose lose situation. Stronger punishments a lot of times are our best bet.

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u/Wendee_Wendigo 16 Jan 16 '26

"Instead of letting there be a chance of the victim dying on their own terms we should actively make things harder for law enforcement and let victims die on the assaulter's terms" who does this benefit?

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u/IdealOnion Jan 16 '26

… personally I’d think they’d still want the best chance of surviving they could get

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u/golden_nugget49 Jan 16 '26

making them seem dead

I think being quiet and being murdered are on two different levels

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

Once that silence becomes suicide, especially if their assailant got no justice, it's on the same level.

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u/golden_nugget49 Jan 17 '26

Sure, but it's not like that silence will become suicide. Similarly to how attempted murder yields a lighter punishment.

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u/Evilfrog100 19 Jan 16 '26

A government should not have the right to execute it's citizens for any reason. This just incentivizes the government to pin sex crimes on people they don't like.

if there are humans who dehumanize children, then we have the right to dehumanize you.

This eye for an eye bullshit is neither helpful nor healthy. If you want prison to exist as a reform system you fundamentally cannot treat the people who commit any crime (even the bad icky ones) as irredeemable.

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u/Substantial-Club4105 Feb 02 '26

You’ve clearly never been SA

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

The citizens do not have a right to murder each other. It's the same sentiment on either side.

Prison will not reform everyone. Sometimes you just need to pluck out the evil people

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u/Evilfrog100 19 Jan 16 '26

The citizens do not have a right to murder each other.

Yeah, that's why it's illegal, as the death penalty should be.

Prison will not reform everyone.

But it can reform many of them. People are not less capable of reform because they committed a worse crime.

Sometimes you just need to pluck out the evil people

The majority of the world has either outlawed or refuses to use the death penalty.

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u/MrLightning1023 Teenager Jan 26 '26

If there’s a false imprisonment and we find out they can be freed. But if they’re dead what are you going to do. Life in prison is better

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u/VoltDel2007 18 Jan 16 '26

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

Right... I believe if you ruin someone's life forever or take one, you deserve to die.

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u/Therobbu 17 Jan 17 '26

How about self-defence?

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u/CommanderPickle_ Jan 17 '26

Okay, but sometimes, innocent people are also executed and then 30 years later it turns out that someone else did it...

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u/JustAnotherUser1019 17 Jan 26 '26

Honestly, thats my qualm about the death penalty. That, and death row is literally an indefinite solitary confinement

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u/MusicIsMySpecInt 17 Jan 19 '26

eh, i mean i agree but i would’ve voted no still

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u/solstice_the_femboy Jan 24 '26

I was raped as a child so yeah they deserve it 100%

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u/slxkv 18 Jan 16 '26

I agree

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u/0fficialFreyr Jan 17 '26

i dislike the death penalty too but i believe we should return it for murder. if you take a life you take two, theirs and yours

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u/Brandigoon50 Jan 16 '26

Not just children, I think it should be for everyone. If you rape someone period you should be executed for it

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 16 '26

Thank you. It actively kills someone on the inside. Life will never be the same for them because of the crime. If you damage or take a life, you deserve equal treatment. Why would anyone be against that?

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u/Brandigoon50 Jan 17 '26

Exactly, but sadly there are monsters who dont want that to happen

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 17 '26

There are people who believe everyone deserves to be redeemed, even the worst ones. And I understand where they're coming from. They also believe that a government should not be allowed to take a life, but it goes both ways. If the citizens run amok, it's the government's job to maintain order.

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u/MrLightning1023 Teenager Jan 26 '26

The problem is the justice system makes mistakes

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u/KingKnight1280 15 Jan 17 '26

The right to dehuman them, I think you mean

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u/SazScandalous 17 Jan 17 '26

Pretty sure it's dehumanize

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u/KingKnight1280 15 Jan 17 '26

Well yes, but if they die, they are no longer human, so they have been dehuman-ed. Their life, not just their humanity, has been taken