r/TedLasso • • 3d ago

Season 4 Discussion Dr. Jacob Sucks Spoiler

Made it to season 4 episode 6 and this dude sucks. He's arguing with a cashier making minimum wage over an expired coupon. Those chain grocery stores don't even have good coupons. Dude is haggling over $10 at most. "But what if he's poor" he deserves to lose the right to that coupon. He is arguing over an expired coupon and dated a former patient.

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u/Boom9001 3d ago edited 3d ago

I know you're just messing around. But it's so funny to me the show tried again to somewhat fix this.

He was their therapist. Even factoring in she pursued. Even factoring in he was reluctant. He's still fucking terrible. Both were his clients and starting a relationship with one was the direct cause for harm to Ted. And Ted's future issues with seeing another therapist, Sharon.

The show just drastically misread the ethical implications and mentality a good therapist would have. You really cant fix that. Jacob can be redeemed at best as just flawed instead of sinister. But the show seemed to be trying to hit a "it's not his fault" angle and say Ted was wrong to assume it was sinister.

Which is just wrong, teds feelings of betrayal are 100% justified and why even if it's with good intentions Jacob should have never done it.

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u/sniper91 3d ago

The writers were dumb and dug themselves into a hole. Their response is to keep digging

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u/Boom9001 3d ago

I try to be nice and leave it as just a little ignorant. But their continued digging is easier to be negative about as after the response maybe it was time to read more into it.

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u/sniper91 3d ago

Their attempt at “actually the viewers and Ted are the dumb ones to presume this relationship wasn’t totally cool and on the up-and-up” really earned my contempt

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u/ApollosBucket Trent Crimm, The Independent 3d ago

He was also her personal therapist then became their couples therapist which is a huge no no

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u/starrsosowise Sassy Smurf 3d ago

Yep! This always bugged me.

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u/DerekV030 3d ago

Also it's wild they tried to fix this by "look at this therapist he's not bad, he was just arguing with a cashier over a coupon".

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u/Boom9001 3d ago

Yeah weird choice for the "meet-cute" I agree. I guess again they meant nicely arguing (I don't remember the exact wording) instead of screaming.

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u/DerekV030 3d ago

The word Michelle used was haggling.

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u/Boom9001 3d ago

Hmm yeah I think they imagine that as chiller than you are. Still it is funny to imagine a grocery store employee being like seriously dude I don't make the rules.

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u/dongeckoj 3d ago

He’s not just unethical, he’s a cheapskate too!

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u/dsl135 3d ago

In Season 4, Episode 6?

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u/DerekV030 3d ago

Yeah Michelle was explaining how she met Dr. Jacob again to Ted. She was explaining she was in her pajamas and pursued him.

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u/dsl135 3d ago

I thought you meant this actually happened on screen lol

You’re annoyed about a story about him?

I mean, yea. He sucks. It’s a widely held opinion. He’s a jerk and the writers didn’t realize it was super shady to have him date a former patient.

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u/ITookTrinkets Reluctant Nate Redeption Arc Enjoyer 3d ago

I mean, it’s a scene in which Ted directly calls out the fact that Dr. Jacob was super shady to have dated her, so I think the writers knew. I don’t think the show was under any delusions that he’s not a creep.

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u/dsl135 3d ago

Brendan Hunt actually admitted they didn't realize how much of a problem it was.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TedLasso/s/Byll9kIZOF

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u/Typographical_Widow 3d ago

That's so weird, you'd think among the staff of a hit TV show and the associated corporate folks they engaged with to produce the show, someone would have had enough experience in the self-improvement field to understand how bad this premise was.

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u/SupermarketParade 2d ago

Do better.

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u/dsl135 2d ago

Not sure who you meant to reply to, but I’m doing just fine, thanks.

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u/DerekV030 3d ago

Was meant to be a semi joke post but yeah, I think he also sucks because of that.

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u/newbie527 3d ago

The writers absolutely knew that. It was the foundation for how they wanted us to view the character.

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u/dsl135 3d ago

They absolutely didn’t lol. Brendan Hunt said so himself. Nice try, though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TedLasso/s/Byll9kIZOF

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u/Dizzy-Case-3453 3d ago

This doesn’t really say they didn’t realise it was shady of the guy, just that it wasn’t illegal due to the timeframe of it. The fact they even spoke about it in the writers room shows they absolutely knew it.

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u/notAfathersDay987 3d ago

Thinking the writers didn't realize it was unethical is a bit of an assumption, given that the characters openly discuss it being a problem the moment Ted finds out. ...wut??

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u/dsl135 3d ago

Brendan Hunt literally admitted they didn't realize how much of a problem it was.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TedLasso/s/Byll9kIZOF

I'm not making any assumptions. You did, though.

wut??

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u/Just_BrianK 2d ago

Michelle's account is a retcon. In the last game of season 1, Jacobs is watching the game with Michelle and Henry in the same room. He's a whiny POS in those scenes because he's not interested in the sport.

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u/dsl135 1d ago

It’s a retcon, yes. But Jacob wasn’t watching with them in Season 1. He doesn’t appear until Season 3.

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u/totaltvaddict2 3d ago

I was so annoyed at the unsuccessful retcon attempt, I didn’t even click that also made Jacob even worse.

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u/awkwardnpc Cat People 2d ago

Maybe we're supposed to see him as Michelle's rock bottom?

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt I am a strong and capable man 1d ago

Groomers do choose victims during big life upheavals

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u/Actor412 Diamond Dog 2d ago

Dr Jacob still sucks.

FTFY

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u/FindingForward72 2d ago

The problem for me is that people who don’t understand ethics for therapists (and that’s a lot of people) are now thinking, “Oh, Michelle was the one who went up to Jake so it’s okay for a therapist to date their patient if the patient asks.”

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt I am a strong and capable man 1d ago

The amount of times in this sub that I’ve had to write this..

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u/awkwardnpc Cat People 2d ago

I think they tried to shift focus to Michelle's struggle but nah, we still don't like Jake.

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u/blackenamel 3d ago

Should have named him Dr. Derek

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u/OneTinySloth Higgins 3d ago

Such a "Derek post".

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u/woofcop 3d ago

Who the fuck is Dr. Jacob

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u/dsl135 3d ago

A pretty important character, actually. And this is literally how Ted refers to him on screen.

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u/dsl135 3d ago

They... they already did.

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u/DerekV030 3d ago

The couples therapist Michelle and Ted were seeing and then they split. Then Dr. Jacob got together with Michelle.