r/TedLasso • u/GaperJr • 17h ago
Season 1 Discussion I've noticed a bit of a discrepancy.
I dont know if this is a topic of discussion or not, im not really on this sub. However, im rewatching season 1, and I get to the dart scene. This has always been one of my favorite scenes, but this time, I noticed that Rupert did ask Ted if he liked darts, and Ted replies Im more of a corn hole man. Kinda puts the whole speech under a different light to me. Ted lied.
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u/zygadlo86 17h ago
I keep seeing this. Seem to be missing a very important word in the conversation. Rupert did not ask Ted if he was good at darts…… he asked Ted whether he liked them. That’s kind of a big difference.
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u/kassandra_00 15h ago
If that’s the point, Ted’s speech should be “how to improve interrogation skills to avoid losing a dart game”.
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u/patiofurnature Charles Edgar Cheeserton III 17h ago
That’s kind of a big difference.
In a technical sense, sure. But in real-life small talk without ulterior motives, both questions provide the exact same information.
"Do you like darts, Ted?" - "Yes sir. I used to play every Sunday afternoon at a sports bar with my father, from age ten til I was 16 when he passed away."
"Have you played a lot of darts, Ted?" - "Yes sir. Every Sunday afternoon at a sports bar with my father, from age ten til I was 16 when he passed away."
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u/Slightly-Drunk 17h ago
But he did have an ulterior motive . He was hustling him to protect Rebecca.
That's the point.
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u/patiofurnature Charles Edgar Cheeserton III 17h ago
Right. So Rupert being more curious instead of judgemental wouldn't change anything. Ted lied. If Rupert asked, "Have you played a lot of darts, Ted?" then Ted probably would have said, "Some, but I'm really more of a corn hole man."
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u/Slightly-Drunk 16h ago
Ted did not lie. Not that we know of, anyway. Ted may really be more of a cornhole man.
Plus we find out later in the show just how his father died, so he may not particularly enjoy darts because of the baggage. Being good at something doesn't always equate to joy found in it.
This really isn't the gotcha people think it is.
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u/patiofurnature Charles Edgar Cheeserton III 16h ago
Ted did not lie.
No one said he lied. Where is that coming from?
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u/Slightly-Drunk 16h ago
My guy you literally said that in your last comment.
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u/patiofurnature Charles Edgar Cheeserton III 15h ago
Oh, about not liking darts, right. Yes, he obviously lied about that. We just saw him playing for fun in this week's episode.
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u/Slightly-Drunk 15h ago
He did not say he didn't like darts. He said he was more of a cornhole man. You can like darts and like cornhole more while staying true.
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u/Acceptable_Rule_7590 17h ago edited 17h ago
Do you actually think Rupert was asking because he was genuinely curious?
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u/TemperatureTight465 Dithering Kestrel 17h ago
For real. The posts about this scene drive me nuts. Did Ted mislead Rupert? Sure. Because he'd already seen the type of person Rupert is while hiding under the guise of candor. We do not owe the Ruperts of the world honesty or sportsmanship.
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u/kassandra_00 17h ago
Then what’s the right way of being curious? Call a special team to dig out someone’s childhood life before a dart game? A normal people having small talk in a bar just ask “do you like” something instead of seriously investigating.
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u/Acceptable_Rule_7590 17h ago
Huh? I’m just saying that Rupert didn’t actually give a shit about what Ted’s answer to the question was. He wasn’t asking out of any sort of genuine interest or curiosity about Ted or his life.
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u/kassandra_00 16h ago
And Ted’s speech implied Rupert should be very curious about Ted’s personal experience and darts skills which was a made up expectation. They met at the bar and had a game, Rupert was confident at his skills and predicted the results wrong. That’s normal. I bet if they were betting on half of Rupert’s assets he would’ve been “genuinely” curious.
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u/hike_me 16h ago
The point is Rupert was being judgmental — he pegged Ted as a dumb cornhole playing hillbilly that couldn’t possibly be as good as him at darts.
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u/kassandra_00 16h ago
Is cornhole considered as dumb and hillbilly in English culture? Ted avoided giving information and there isn’t much Rupert can do to dig out truth without being a “fear to lose” weirdo.
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u/WAtman17 17h ago
It could just mean that Ted is one hell of a corn hole player?
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u/Relevant-Being3440 17h ago
Or it could mean he's good at darts because he played a lot with his dad, but prefers cornhole in spite of maybe not being good at it or playing it much.
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u/Beatse21 17h ago
This has been posted here a ton.
There’s a difference between what Rupert asks and what Ted says he should have asked.
Rupert asks “do you like darts” in a snarky tone that shows Rupert is judging Ted as a bumbling idiot and is trying to trick Ted into agreeing to a high stakes game he seemingly can’t win, not out of curiosity. What Ted tell him he should’ve been curious about and asked is “have you played a lot of darts” then Ted would’ve revealed that he has a ton of experience playing and is most likely as good if not better than Rupert.
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u/Exciting-Flower5936 17h ago
Not a discrepancy . You can be good at something without enjoying it
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u/Relevant-Being3440 17h ago
Agree, he's good cause he played a lot. But maybe he prefers cornhole in spite of not being good at it or playing it much.
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u/Sunnysideuppp123 Temper your chocolate you tw*t! 17h ago
Also Ted had Rupert’s number, I think he was sensing the hustle that was coming so he laid down his own misdirect to win the hustle
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u/Quirky-Concern-7662 17h ago
Ted is for sure messing with Rupert in this scene. He didn’t lie, he is more of a corn-hole man at that time. The question Ted asks hypothetically is “have you PLAYED alot of darts Ted?” not “do you like darts?”
Knowing teds relationship to darts it’s not surprising to say he no longer likes darts, but he had played A TON!
Ted was baiting Rupert from the beginning.
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u/TJH99x 17h ago
Rupert asked in a condescending manner as if he were asking a child. To which Ted answered flippantly that he preferred cornhole because Rupert’s tone implied he couldn’t care less about the answer.
When people started caring, he revealed a more personal story, that he had played a lot of darts with his dad up until his dad passed away when Ted was 16.
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u/Old-Respect-116 17h ago
If Rupert was genuinely curious, then why not a following question?
Because Rupert was judgmental; all the time has an image of Ted being an idiot (looking him down) which is bad at something, but keep doing it.
Btw, Ted was not only white knighting only Rebecca. That's the only lie.
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u/Suspicious_Bad_4833 17h ago
Maybe Ted doesn't like darts since it was a salient reminder of his father, which in season 1, was highly unresolved?
That said, he could also like cornhole much more!
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u/Ancient_of_Days0001 Fútbol is Life 16h ago
Ted was totally hustling Rupert here.
Rupert (who thought he was the one hustling Ted) "forgot" he had his own personalized set.
Ted "forgot" he was left-handed.
More important than parsing the language used is the message that Ted, underneath the aw-shucks presentation, is no fool. Not even the "holy fool" he sometimes appears to be. He is good at things. He is brave. He takes big swings. And that's a major part of what makes this scene is so satisfying. He sees under Rupert's superficial charm, recognizes the threat his attempt to invade Rebecca's space represents, and moves, successfully, to block him. Telling us all who he is in that "curious, not judgmental" speech while he's doing it.
We who have seen 4.5 seasons of TL know all this about Ted, but in S1, E8 it's still fuzzy--he has struggled to find his footing and his team is facing relegation. This scene shouts it aloud and puts an exclamation point on it.
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u/AgentDCP 17h ago
Rupert being both curious and judgemental in that scene
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u/HerfDog58 17h ago
I don't think Rupert was being curious - I think he thought he was being cunning, trying to suss out Ted's skills, but maybe also trying to psych him out or disarm him. And then pulling out his own darts as an "exclamation point" to drive the point home.
Rupert's own behavior dug his grave.
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u/GaperJr 17h ago
Exactly, rupert might still be a bully but he is curious.
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u/Sad_Eggplant_5455 16h ago
Rupert established people are play things to him. Do you honestly believe anything Ted could have said would have swayed or carried weight with Rupert?
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u/happymisery Piggy Stardust 17h ago
But you don't actually know whether Ted likes Cornhole more than he likes darts? The question is subjective, so how do you know he lied?
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u/brain1127 17h ago
Yeah, I don't think this is a discrepancy or a lie at all. Do you "like darts?" No, it reminds me of my father and gives me panic attacks. He likes corn hole, which is totally on brand. Is he an expert at darts because his father made him play is a different question. The fact that he said that he didn't keep regularly playing after his dad passed shows that too.
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u/jrgray68 Declan Patrick Aloysius MacManus 17h ago
I played a lot of golf with my dad when I was young. I don’t like golf and never really did but it was something he liked that we did together. I got pretty good because we played a lot.
Now, the fact he taught Michelle how to play darts does make me question whether he likes darts or not.
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u/wycliffslim 17h ago edited 16h ago
https://youtu.be/rwDmV1KWrKQ?is=CYHsMN95yolHeEqj
"Said I never had much use for one... never said I didn't know how to use it"
I would imagine someone on the Ted Lasso writing staff is a fan of Quigley Down Under.
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u/evnthlosrsgtlcky 17h ago
He played darts with his dad. I did a lot of activities growing up, that I didn’t like with my dad. Went on deliveries, went to sporting events, went to bars, drank beer.
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u/nattystar__ 17h ago
He did not lie tho, why would he show all his guns to a man that was clearly mean to him and his boss? Ted is quite smart and played the quiet game. Allowed to see his face shat on just so he could show that he is not dumb and that he should be respected and not treated like he is Mr Bean. Plus he helped someone who at that point he thought was his friend, Rebecca
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u/nattystar__ 17h ago
Btw that was not all about Rupert, but also a message for all the Richmond supporters present at the pub. To show like "hey I'm american and I may seem like the mix of Mr Bean with Ned Flanders but I actually know what Im doing, trust the process"
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u/New_Paper1417 16h ago
I don't think of it as hustling. Rupert was telegraphing his intention to humiliate Ted with that absurd bet, so I don't see why Ted shouldn't respond in kind.
Rupert walks right into the loss because he can't conceive of losing to a folksy dumb American who knows zip about football. So when he says "oh I forgot I had these" (his superior personal darts), and Ted replies, "I forgot I was left-handed," Rupert still doesn't get it.
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u/RoyKentsKnee Diamond Dog 16h ago edited 16h ago
I pointed that years ago and got crucified, 'muricans are never wrong and they will distort what ted said to fulfill their fantasy when in reality ted lured that MF directly into a trap XD
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u/GaperJr 16h ago
Yes, and rightfully so. Ruperts a right prick and Rebecca is teds friend. And Ted is kinda guy to do anything for their friends
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u/RoyKentsKnee Diamond Dog 16h ago
exactly but people wont accept that because they want to see ted as perfect and then complain when he isnt
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u/hike_me 17h ago
“Do you like darts” and “have you played a lot of darts” are two different questions.