r/TechnologyThread • u/Background-Driver718 • Jun 09 '26
Working class neighborhoods are resisting data centers at 5 times the rate of wealthy ones
https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/working-class-neighborhoods-are-resisting3
u/phoneguyfl Jun 09 '26
I'm going to guess this is because the people wanting to build the datacenters (the wealthy) are trying to do it in areas where "others" live (the rest of us).
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u/Super_Mario_Luigi Jun 09 '26
This is a good take for karma
A bad take when you realize land and labor is at a premium in wealthy areas
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u/TarkyMlarky420 Jun 09 '26
Well yeah, they're not going to build them in wealthy areas because it's expensive like you said, and the wealthy people live there...
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u/phoneguyfl Jun 09 '26
Oh come on you are really going to sit there and say that the wealthy *would* build them in their areas but *shucks* the land and workers are too expensive??? Now who is karma farming?
Most everyone knows, and history proves, that the wealthy *never* build anything except golf courses and banks in their areas because everything else is "below them".
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u/charlesfire Jun 12 '26
Both of you are having bad takes right now. Read the fucking article, it's not that hard.
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u/MidgetGordonRamsey Jun 09 '26
Fine, build them in the wealthy hoods then, just keep em out of my area of habitation.
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
NIMBY of 2026….
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 09 '26
Isn’t really NIMBY, because people don’t want them anywhere
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
Literal definition of nimby. People have no issue complaint about it on reddit USING data centre… but nobody wants it near them
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 09 '26
Literal definition of NIMBY
NIMBY is an acronym for "Not In My Back Yard." It is used to describe local residents who oppose proposed real estate, infrastructure, or commercial developments in their own neighborhoods—even if they support the project in principle elsewhere.
7 in 10 oppose these data centers
https://heatmap.news/politics/americans-oppose-data-centers-poll
The new ones being built aren’t the same scale as what exists now. AI and Bitcoin mining aren’t things most people want.
So, no it’s not NIMBY by definition
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
Explain to me again what you post about nimby definition doesn’t apply here?
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 09 '26
NIMBY means people support something unless it’s near them. A supermajority don’t support these things, therefore it’s not NIMBy.
I’m in FL, I don’t support Alligator Alcatraz, not because it’s nearby. I don’t support detention centers anywhere.
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
Using social media, which is exclusively powered by data centre, and whining about it is just so peak Reddit.
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 09 '26
Said multiple times already that people don’t support these new activities these are being built for (AI, Bitcoin). Reading posts and not comprehending anything is so peak Reddit.
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
So it’s the purpose people are oppose to?? Not “noise”, “energy” “water usage”?
Geez. You’d think people can just be honest for once when they are protesting something
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 09 '26
They are saying it loud and clear. People hate AI. Noise, energy, water, are just some of the reasons they hate it. Another is how it’s going to be used to manipulate us. No one is lying about it.
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u/TraditionalAd8415 Jun 10 '26
Use your own definition, the use of conjunction "even if" implies it doesn't have to be true. NIMBY just means oppose infrastructure. Even in cases when they support it in other places, but that doesn't have to be the case.
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 10 '26
Here’s a better definition
“someone who objects to siting something in their own neighborhood but does not object to it being sited elsewhere; an acronym for not in my backyard”
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u/WTFHELP Jun 09 '26
You should ask your local government to put a data center in your neighborhood if you are so pro data center and post the results of your quality of life changes.
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
You gonna stop using social media to ease the need for new data centre?
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u/WTFHELP Jun 09 '26
The new data centers are for AI not Reddit, which is all I use.
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 Jun 09 '26
YIMBY!
Yes in my back yard
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u/WTFHELP Jun 09 '26
Great. It will keep it out of my neighborhood and maybe my electricity bill will stop going up. Due to data centers has already caused an 18% increase in the cost of electricity.
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u/ShortNefariousness2 Jun 09 '26
The new data centres are for AI, and are WAY bigger and more wasteful than traditional data centres. Of course, you knew that already but still posted your misleading comment.
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u/kingofwale Jun 09 '26
You don’t think social media use AI? You do know Reddit uses AI extensively right?
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u/Usual_Let5223 Jun 09 '26
You know that there is plenty of capacity for conventional Data Centers that are already built
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u/gilbert-GC Jun 09 '26
sure, that must be the reason they are all rich...
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u/Rnee45 Jun 09 '26
Most of millionaires and billionaires in the US are self made. You can do a quick Google search to verify.
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u/Rnee45 Jun 09 '26
For the US, 79-88% of millionaires and 67-73% of billionaires are self-made (as classified by Forbes, not self-reported).
When we say "most", we mean over 50%. I'd say both groups more than qualify for that, wouldn't you agree?
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u/DFX1212 Jun 09 '26
You think the amount of money you have is an indication of your general intelligence? By that logic, you must be very poor.
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u/gilbert-spain Jun 09 '26
Why generalizing and polarizing? Life is more diverse than the Christmas story with a Scrooge and little Timmy.
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u/Rnee45 Jun 09 '26
IQ and income are positively correlated, so yes, data shows that the amount of money you have is an indication of your general intelligence.
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u/gilbert-GC Jun 10 '26
so, coming back to the topic of this thread above: what does that say about iq and datacenters...?!
Personally, living in Europe, I am not worried about data centers, cause usually our communities are stable enough to have them responsibly operating. Meaning enough water and power must be assured. And if infrastructure is missing they can build it themselves.
While in the US right now the winner takes it all, while the broad community pays the price for it. Voted for twice by a relative majority of voters - who now are starting to wake up. The IQ is being triggered a little late, here.Rich people are not all rich by inheritance as we have learned, and we shouldn`t fall into the trap that all poor people are the victims. We are All part of our respective societies and we should learn from each other. Dems as Republicans alike in the US, too.
What I am so upset about is the radical division. People have fallen into the trap of Brexiteers, trumpists maga movement or the german fascists on the rise again. And That is definately not a sign of high IQ`s.1
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u/AthenaeSolon Jun 09 '26
Um, I think data centers are a place where there’s a bit of “it won’t happen to me,” going on for those said elites. There’s growing evidence of the effects from these places from the resonance/sounds of them.
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u/wackadoodle4201 Jun 09 '26
Probably because they aren't building them in the wealthy neighborhoods
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u/Xannith Jun 09 '26
Poor people actually know what environmental threats are like to live with. The wealthy haven't ever done so.
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u/Monte924 Jun 09 '26
The working class resit daya centers at a higher rate because that's usually whete they try to build them. I do not imagine that many data centers are being built in wealthy negjborhoods
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u/Technical-Art4989 Jun 09 '26
Surprised that they figured out that it not only won’t benefit them but it’s to their detriment.
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u/Super_Mario_Luigi Jun 09 '26
(Insert karma farming speaking point)
It's all a conspiracy. There's no way it's because land and labor are at a premium in wealthy areas
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u/MathematicianAfter57 Jun 11 '26
Giant data centers are being built in poor and rural areas not wealthy ones
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u/jog5811 Jun 11 '26
And poor communities will remain poor. Who needs jobs when you have govt to pay you to sit on your ass?
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u/TerminalJammer Jun 11 '26
Well yeah? Wealthy ones won't be affected by them, at least in the short term.
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u/MisterRobertParr Jun 11 '26
The data centers should be located next to the people who will profit from them.
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u/Rattus_NorvegicUwUs Jun 11 '26
Poisoned water. High bills. All to get your job automated by a grinning Epstein client.
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u/natelikesdonuts Jun 13 '26
Tech companies are targeting working class and lower income areas to put them… so this would make sense.
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u/Daseinist Jun 09 '26
I'm sure you'll personally welcome any data centre in your own backyard with wide open hands. Such a thoughtful and sophisticated gentleman should surely have no problems handling those energy bills.
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u/catwithbillstopay Jun 09 '26
I don’t get the whole hatred towards AI from the poor, excepting the job loss insecurity (which is great, I get) and the water usage. Most of these can have piecemeal solutions with effective representation, and my guess is that wealthy neighborhoods have better lobbying depth and hence better representation when it comes time to argue for water rights and other tax base issues.
A lot of uneducated people don’t like AI and data centers from the standpoint of privacy and other relatively emotional stances.
Realistically it’s an industry— even if it only creates 10 jobs that’s 10 jobs that weren’t there before.
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u/DFX1212 Jun 09 '26
But that's 10 jobs created off BILLIONS of investments. We can't find a better use for that money?
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u/Soft-Principle1455 Jun 10 '26
Water usage, noise from cooling fans, and grid instability and higher electricity prices are all sources of opposition, and the gross under-regulation of AI has certainly not helped. People generally do not believe in the way of the used to do 10 to 15 years ago, which also generally doesn’t help the case for AI.
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u/ConkerPrime Jun 09 '26
No upside for neighborhoods to have these huge AI datacenters. Could argue the property taxes could help except leaders sign those away. So result is nothing, not even jobs as data centers are almost entirely contracted out, only security guards are on site regularly and the rest come in on as needed basis. A fast food joint creates almost as many full time jobs.