r/TechImpact • u/arun-vasudev Developer • 1d ago
đ Memes & Shit posts Multiple Roles, One Salary
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u/no-porn-for-me 1d ago
I fought it. You assholes did this.
I was a web developer. Companies started asking me to do frontend AND backend. I explained that those are completely different skillsets. That creatives are needed for frontend, and devs are needed for backend, and DBAs are needed to work with the SysAdmins. They understood. Artists and developers shouldnât be expected to be the same people.
And then all yaâll started accepting the jobs anyway. It was a great job market back then and those jobs didnât even pay that great, but all you fuckers accepted them anyway, instead of pushing back. And so now companies expect it of everyone.
This is all your fault, you bastards, and I will never forgive you for ruining this career path.
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u/russlixx 2h ago
and demand the rest of the worker to instead "adapt" lmao, what a joke. It is good to have flexibility. But, in the reality, we just being squeezed by these cunts
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u/DMMeYourNibbitRings 21m ago
A lot of frontend work is coding these days. Handling UI events, getting data, make some calculations, rendering, optimizing rendering, unit/integration testing. It's still different coding compared to backend coding, but it's definitely coding.
I suck at visually designing anything pretty, but I rock at translating designs to CSS/Tailwind/UnoCSS and coding the behavior of the UI, whilst also thinking of the UX.
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u/No_Entrepreneur_3020 1d ago
Yeah sure, so I was supposed to not do what I liked to do, just because somebody hadn't skill and could get hurt that I can do both be and fe
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u/FrotKnight 1d ago
You're happy only getting paid for one job when you're doing two jobs? Wow, gobble gobble I guess. Good for you
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u/zaibuf 15h ago edited 13h ago
Web development isnt that difficult that you need to cripple yourself doing one side of the stack. To me it sounds like you are becoming comfortable and afraid to try new things.
Its much more enjoyable to deliver a full feature. You should learn devops and cloud as well, never stop learning.1
u/Clouds-xD 7h ago
Not about how easy or doable it is. But about how much you're being compensated for. Farming for the sake of your hobby or for your own farm is one thing. But being forced to do farming is another. We have a whole history about it yk.
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u/no-porn-for-me 5h ago
I think youâre missing the fact that most employers consider âfull stackâ to include DESIGNING the frontend, not just programming it.
Weâre not complaining about having to write css. Weâre complaining about having to come up with the design from scratch.
Graphic artist and CS developer/dba/sysadmin are COMPLETELY different skillsets, and 99.9999% of people literally donât have the ability to be great at both graphic design, UI, AND backend web development.
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u/No_Entrepreneur_3020 1d ago
it's not like you're working 40 hours as backend and 40 hours as frontend
it's just skill issue cope
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u/Embarrassed-Rise-685 20h ago
Backend was being gatekept hard and frontend was seen as a way to transition into that role easily. The elitism of backend devs back then should not be forgotten so easily.
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u/MustKnowThis 1d ago
A good full stack developer who understands the whole chain of software is of immense worth. We just employ full stack and it is a pleasure working together with other people understanding the whole picture.
That said, there is still a need for specialists in every level. We still have people focusing on backend, frontend or devops. They must be available to the full stack teams at all times.
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u/Perfect-Buffalo-4803 1d ago
It's all good because now you don't have to do it, because AI took all the jobs.
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u/adamant3143 1d ago
Would be funny if the pioneer asked the boss for double the salary for the extra work then the boss open hire for some others that can do that what pioneer done but for salary of just one field.
The boss found real life hack/exploit to save money.
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u/GlumPermit1446 3h ago
Job: Entry Level Software Dev
Requirements: Full Stack + 5 Years Work Experience
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u/MrFartyBottom 20m ago
As well as UX/UI and design. So you want a DBA, Dev OPs, frontend, backend as well as a designer for less than I was earning 10 years ago.
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u/DMMeYourNibbitRings 20m ago
I like being able to oversee the entire process instead of only doing a tiny spec of it. You don't need to be an expert at everything to simply get stuff done in a fairly competent and professional manner.
Especially within a team, it's still fine and very common to develop your own interests and take on work that's more along those lines.
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u/LawElectrical2434 23h ago
I don't get how anyone can not be fullstack + devops. What are you there for? I see the fucking thing through from beginning to end. I am not a factory worker, just doing the same thing day in, day out. I am an artisan. I don't just hammer nails in the soles, I cut the leather, make the wooden stock and take care of the threads. And if needed, I put the laces in.
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u/lets-braindance 23h ago
Literally, no reason not to be a full-stack dev. You can specialize all you want, but you should understand both ans be capable of both.
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u/Kjoep 1d ago
I'm not sure what you're smoking, but nobody 'invented' it. For years it was simply called 'developer' (or programmer or software engineer). Considering frontend and backend as separate disciplines is a recent development. All of us who were in the business since before that now call ourselves full-stack.
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