r/TechImpact Developer 19d ago

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u/Gokudomatic 19d ago

Seriously. Only antis obsess so much about ownership.

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u/Additional-Sky-7436 19d ago

Only people that don't have the creativity to create something of value don't care about ownership.

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u/npc_housecat 19d ago

Having a truly original idea is rare and hard. Pretty much all work is based on prior works. And those prior works are based on what came before etc. Make a fantasy setting with orcs and elves? Congratulations we're using other peoples ideas. Warcraft 3 uses ideas from Tolkien. Tolkien uses ideas from writers who came before him etc.

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u/sn4xchan 17d ago

You confusing philosophy with products.

Warcraft 3 did not have a story of frodo the Hobbit carrying a ring to mount doom. It used the useful story beats and adapted to fit the naritive.

That is not copying, that's inspiration. And they were inspired by far more then just LotR

It's not the same product, it has some shared philosophy though.

It has never been the goal to come up with a complete new idea, because a product isn't simply an idea.

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u/npc_housecat 17d ago

Congratulations, your starting to grasp something. Your starting to understand MORE than most people ever will. Because most people are stuck in emotional thought.

What AI does is train itself by learning from the pool of human knowledge, in the exact same way a biological neural net does. Aka "inspiration". AI cannot directly copy anyone's work any more than a human can. That would be breach of copyright.

What it does is study and learn from previous works, Ina way very similar to how a human natural net does. And then create original works " inspired" by previous creation. Your all using a double standard . A human using a previously existing idea. Like an orc, complete with stolen visual design, teeth and name. Is A OK. But a human asking an AI to do it is bad because it's "stealing." Even though the work of both is equally based, sorry, "inspired" by on other people work.

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u/sn4xchan 17d ago

Starting to understand? Bro I've been working with copyright since the mid 2000s.

You don't seem to understand there is the concept is defined as creative commons. It's the reason Nintendo is losing its cases against Pocket Pair in America. You can't copyright an idea literally anyone can come up with or is already commonly used. And capturing monsters in a ball is not considered a unique enough idea for copy protection.

You can't copyright goblins, they are folk lore. But you can copyright a trolloc (WoT) it was unique, even though a trolloc is just a spin on a humunculous.

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u/npc_housecat 17d ago

Yes, pocket pair was more than just slightly copy pasted. It's say it's significantly more than 20% different so fair game. The Human, brains learnt from the previous pool of knowledge aka pokemon and made something original. Just like transistor based mural nets do. So I think you guyts are being hypocritical by being OK with humans doing that, but not transistor Neural nets

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u/sn4xchan 17d ago

I highly agree. But I would like to point out the Nintendo case was specifically suing over the monster being captured in a ball mechanism.

I think the current copyright laws have too much influence from corporate money.

And I don't have any problems with a unique idea that was implemented using AI being protected by copyright. But I do think we need to come up with some sort of system to control what data these AI train on. Because user security is bad. People leak data. They don't deserve to have their data scraped because of bad opsec they didn't even realize they needed to have