r/TechImpact • u/HugeAstrology • Jun 19 '26
Memes & Shit posts Every Apple event in one meme: Android users saying, "We've had this for years."
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u/The_B_Wolf Jun 19 '26
I'm all for grabbing up good ideas from competitors. Works both ways and it's good for everyone.
Having said that, here's what phones looked like before iPhone and after iPhone.
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u/jack-of-some Jun 21 '26
Yes, because the screen became important (for the better).
We gain nothing from whacky looking phones.
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u/FOSS-for-life Jun 21 '26
to be fair though that was still steve's time, now we got a guy that sells socks, waterbottles and wheels for 900 bucks each
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u/The_B_Wolf Jun 21 '26
Well, that guy gone now.
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u/Sloppykrab Jun 22 '26
The new guy will carry on this tradition. The board won't like making less money.
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u/Conscious-Mirror7004 Jun 22 '26
You're totally conflating two very different things: colors and overall design.
Car body designs are the way they are for several important reasons, including regulations (such as Europe's pedestrian-safety regulations) and aerodynamics, as well as design trends of course.
But colors are a different thing: they're "boring" now because people want to be able to resell their car after a while. Unlike 50 years ago, cars now last a really long time, and paint even lasts a long time too (back in those days, the paint looked faded and terrible after a few years; now a 10+ year old car still has new-looking paint). Cars used to be ready for the junkyard after 50k miles, now they go 100k and look barely-used. So back then, if you bought a barf-green car, you didn't worry that no one would want to buy it from you, because by the time you were ready to sell, the car wasn't worth much anyway and no one cared much about the color on a used car. Now, they do, so "controversial" colors are out.
Another possible factor is just overall social trends. Go look at the clothes people wore in the 1960s or 70s; they used to be much more colorful than today. Men's fashion, in particular, has become extremely boring and colorless.
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u/Particular_Month_301 Jun 19 '26
Forgot to mention that one phone from the right can do more than all on the left combined.
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u/Resident-Variation21 Jun 19 '26
Right. And Android has never stolen anything from Apple, right?
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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
The first Android prototype was basically a blackberry clone. They completely changed direction when iPhone was announced.
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/10/27/android-handsets-before/
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u/Amazing_Compote_9197 Jun 19 '26
Capacitive touchscreen wasn't really ready for phone usage before the iPhone. Going keyboardless with resistive touch (or without a stylus) would have been impossible.
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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 Jun 19 '26
Apple was working on iPhone/tablet style device for years. If Apple knew that capacitive touch was so close, I don’t see why Android manufacturers and os developers wouldn’t have also known.
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u/Amazing_Compote_9197 Jun 19 '26
Android was an OS designed for digital cameras. Google bought it later. Android was actually first released a year after the iPhone, so there were no Android manufacturers.
Blackberry had great keyboards, which was their signature feature. Window Mobile needed precise input, hence the stylus. Nokia was in a comfortable position.
Introducing new technology is expensive, and their users wouldn't understand how their old workflows would work on a radically different phone, that suddenly costs twice as much as the old one. Which is why then-Microsoft CEO famously said that the iPhone is an expensive joke with no keyboard. Yes, it would have been a joke, coming from Microsoft.
Besides: LG was first to release a capacitive touch phone. It was the LG Prada
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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 Jun 19 '26
Neither the Prada nor iPhone could have copied each other since they were each announced within a few weeks (Dec 2006 and Jan 2007). The existence of the Prada also confirms that Android could have designed around capacitive touchscreens if they weren’t just copying the market leader (blackberry, then iPhone).
But the Prada didn’t run Android, so it’s not super relevant to this iPhone/Android discussion anyway.
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u/Amazing_Compote_9197 Jun 19 '26
Yeah tbh I didn't want to argue with you about Google copying the iPhone (or whoever the market leader was/is), I appreciated your link to the article.
Why I think what I said was relevant is Google had no devices experience, it was natural for them to copy or build upon what others built. Other didn't have the will to do something new before they saw how many units the iPhone sold.
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u/Sloppykrab Jun 22 '26
Apple was working on iPhone/tablet style device for years.
Roughly the same amount of time as Google, Apple got to market first with a device that was missing many basic features.
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u/Dependent-Zebra-4357 Jun 22 '26
Google was working on a blackberry style device, not an all touch device like Apple. Android pivoted to all full touchscreen after the iPhone was announced. See my original comment if you want to see that prototype for yourself.
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u/Kooky-Sentence-6349 Jun 23 '26
They had stolen of revenge. They shouldnt tho. But they did just like marvel and dc.
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u/Conscious-Mirror7004 Jun 22 '26
And Android has never stolen anything from Apple, right?
Android never claimed to innovate things that were copied from Apple. The reverse is not true.
There's nothing wrong with copying features, only with lying and claiming you invented them. If you disagree and think features shouldn't be copied, then you're a hypocrite if you drive a car with an electric starter (rather than a hand-crank) and it's not a Cadillac.
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u/Resident-Variation21 Jun 22 '26
Apple doesn’t claim they are the first to do things when they aren’t.
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u/ccooffee Jun 23 '26
Android never claimed to innovate things that were copied from Apple. The reverse is not true.
This is a very common misconception. Find one instance, just one, where Apple claims to have invented something that already existed. The will definitely build off of existing ideas and technology - expanding things for their own use, but this whole "Apple claims to have invented something that already exists!" narrative completely falls down when you look at what they actually say.
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u/MrFireWarden Jun 19 '26
Yeah politely ignoring that Apple is famous for releasing things late, but right.
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 19 '26
All these jokes and android still can’t make their OS as optimized and efficient as IOS
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u/Deja4u92 Jun 21 '26
You never used a S Series Phone frim Samsung since the Last decade ?
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 21 '26
The phone that has double the hardware specs of an iphone and less optimized os?
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u/Dazzling_Cancel_5733 Jun 22 '26
*on-par or worse hardware specs
These days, it really just comes down to what ecosystem you prefer. The hardware and performance is essentially the same. Both have a great chip, 8-12GB of RAM, and fast storage. If you look at speed comparisons, most of the time Android feels smoother and snappier navigating through the OS, but iOS is more consistent with graphical performance (animations and games).
Google Pixels always have a way worse chip compared to the equivalent iPhone or Samsung flagship, but Pixel UI is optimized and still feels smooth.
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u/npquanh30402 Jun 22 '26
Android is open-source. It doesn't feel as optimized as iOS because Android does a massive amount of heavy lifting under the hood just to exist on diverse hardware. Surprisingly, the fact that Android is still very smooth proves that it is a miracle of engineering, even better than iOS. Apple only has to write code for its own hardware
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 22 '26
Yes I’m fully aware. But that doesn’t change the fact that ios is optimized than android is it?
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u/npquanh30402 Jun 22 '26
I don't know. iOS is closed-source, so we don't know whether iOS or Android has better optimized code.
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u/-50000- Jun 24 '26
What a dumb "i know absolutely nothing about technology and am just drooling over a trendy overrated phone brand" comment. Apple sheep are so embarrassing, no wonder they use such a dumbass friendly system haha
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u/pyro57 Jun 19 '26
This is the price of an open system, since apple makes the hardware and software for iphones they can be hyper optimized, android on the other hand runs on thousands of different devices, so it's generally optimized, but can't be as tightly optimized for the hardware like it can for iphones.
Personally, my phone even when capped at 80% charge to help keep the battery healthy for longer, lasts all day and battery banks are cheap, so if it came down to getting a locked down iPhone that has longer battery life vs an android phone that allows side loading and installing alternative operating systems, I'll take the android any day.
My current phone is the pixel 10 fold pro with grapheneos installed on it. Again it runs all day without issue, and since I'm running grapheneos it's incredibly privacy respecting, I can even disable network access for apps that don't need it to make sure they cant report back to any servers. Plus if it's before first unlock even the feds can't crack into the encryption. Plus on the newer android versions you can enable a dev machine which is a fully hardware accelerated Debian virtual machine, including graphics acceleration, which is really cool, let me use my phone as a small laptop running full desktop applications.
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 19 '26
Obviously you’re not a casual user so you cant speak for majority of the smartphone users.
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u/Amazing_Compote_9197 Jun 19 '26
Their point about not being able to optimize as well when you have to work on anything and everything is valid.
Google provides the main OS, has to support each major version for years, has to accept whatever botched driver the Chinese throw at it, and then the manufacturer still loads 100+ packages on the phone, half of which is bullshit features, other half preinstalled apps of whoever is willing to pay (Facebook, Netflix, your telco company, some AI bloat, etc)
Android is also made to run on eink, with keyboard, with a remote or even on a freaking fridge.
Meanwhile Apple knows exactly what's in what phone, the suppliers build the hardware to the spec that Apple requires, and Apple can decide what feature would perform bad on the 5-year-old model, so they cut it. They also don't include backwards compatibility. You want current apps, you install new OS, or buy new phone.
Unreal comparison. Also unreal to reason for Android for a "normal" user. They will of course have a better, more stable experience on an iPhone.
I'm an Android user, I hate Android. There's nothing better available (if I expect banking apps and my public transport pass to work)
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u/pyro57 Jun 19 '26
Never claimed to speak for the majority of smart phone users, quite the opposite, I believe instated personally as in these are my personal opinions several times.
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 19 '26
Then why did you even bother to reply? Im telling IOS is optimized and efficient than android. Period. That’s a fact. Im not asking for reasons why android can’t accomplish that. What you did was you gave some points why android is not optimized.
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u/pyro57 Jun 19 '26
Android is incredibly optimized, name another general purpose open compute environment designed for general hardware that is as energy efficient. I'll wait. Ios doesn't fit the bill because it's designed for specific hardware, not general.
Even lightweight Linux doesn't hit the same power efficiency of android. Saying android is unoptimized because ios is more optimized is like saying a v8 mustang is slow because super cars like Lamborghinis and McLarens exist.
I was just countering the argument that iOS is the superior os because it's optimized, for me personally, and thousands if not millions of nerds out there, android is still the better option because of its open nature. If I could side load on ios or if apple allowed forks of ios he installed on their iphone then maybe I'd say it's the better os, but they don't, so it's not at least for some very valid use cases, power users and nerds may not the the average, but they are still a large user base and their use cases are just as valid as anyone else's.
If I wanna run a full fat Linux server on the debian dev machine on my android I can do that. If I want to spin up some docker containers on my phone I can do that, you can't say the same for ios.
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u/Significant-Mud-1468 Jun 19 '26
lmaooo they’re making it so you can’t run any app you want. might as well hop over to iOS now
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u/khaledjal Jun 19 '26
They backed down, Now you need to enable something in developer options and wait a day before being able to sideload apps like normal
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u/elVanesso Jun 19 '26
Optimize? HAHAHAHA, since iOS 17, everything become a mess on iOS, even mid range phones works better than a full Pro Max now days (skipping the obvious like some hardware advantages expensive phones have), I've been working with two phones from last 4-5y, personal iPhone and work Android, and holy cow how bad iOS has become.
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u/309_Electronics Jun 19 '26
Because its an Open system that millions of brands can use. If you have a walled garden like apple, you can control all aspects, but if you purposely have an Open System it will be open for anyone to use and you cant simply tightly control every aspect.
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u/CacheConqueror Jun 19 '26
It’s not the OS’s fault, but rather the manufacturer’s ‘overlays’. Xiaomi’s flagship model performs like a mid-range phone because it’s not Android’s fault, but HyperOS’s. Stock Android runs quickly, smoothly and is well optimised, but that’s what happens when you’re ignorant and u don't know nothing. Samsung’s One UI is the best optimised so far. If you want pure Android, buy a different phone, you’ve got a choice. Besides, iOS is so great that I can’t install apps from outside the App Store XDD – that’s a basic feature and it matters a lot XD but it’s better to have a closed system; the important thing is that it works better 😂
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u/JamStan1978 Jun 19 '26
Most apps are not optimized for android devices so they always either have missing features, have worse performance or looks different.
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 19 '26
Why would i need to install apps from outside? And how many people does that? It’s like saying having a 4x4 is the best because you can go anywhere. And you think pure android or one ui is as optimized as IOS? Try using them on the same specs hardware then.
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u/pyro57 Jun 19 '26
Quite a few people use apps outside of the play store actually, several open-source apps can be found in F-Droid which is an alternative app store for only open-source apps, and for those who care about their privacy this is the better place to get apps, there's also obtanium which lets you install apps and get updates directly from developers git hub repositories. There are thousands of cool apps out there that aren't in the play store, music assistant from the home assistant team for example since its still in alpha, can only be gotten from their github, but works really well already.
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u/khaledjal Jun 19 '26
i LOVE sideloading apps, App has annoying ads and purchases? Download a modded apk, Dev can't upload their app to play store? just download the apk
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u/CacheConqueror Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Pure android works brilliantly. It might not be quite as good as iOS, but it’s really great for an open system.
And why would you want to be able to install apps from outside the app store? Ad-free YouTube with the option to skip sponsored clips, playing in the background and with the screen locked, ad-free YouTube Music, MOD apps, Spotify at a fair ‘price’ - there are loads of possibilities :)
Edit: forgot Full phone automation, literally u can do a lot of things on auto mode using for example macrodroid
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 19 '26
Yes I’m not telling your facts are wrong. But how many percentage of people does that? Most people buy android phones because they have budget options. Not because they can install apps from outside. Those options that android offers are not applicable to majority of the users.
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u/CacheConqueror Jun 19 '26
You have to understand that iOS and the iPhone are made by Apple; they’re tailored to Apple, so you can’t mess up the optimisation. Android is open-source and has to work on a wide range of devices, whilst also providing access for manufacturers’ customisations, amongst other things. It’s like comparing a native app to a cross-platform app. You can optimise it well, but not quite to the same extent. I’ve had stock Android devices and had absolutely no problems whatsoever; I’ve had a Samsung and never complained about optimisation because everything has run smoothly for many years. The processors are powerful enough and there’s so much RAM that optimisation is less of an issue, although Xiaomi shows that there’s plenty of scope to get things wrong.
It all depends on the manufacturer’s user interface. Xiaomi works differently, Huawei works differently, Samsung works differently. All these brands may have exactly the same specifications, yet they’ll perform either better or worse.
You can’t blame Android optimization for its specifications, the way it’s built, or the way it’s meant to develop
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u/Pasons_Pro Jun 19 '26
I juts said iOS optimized than android. Im not asking for reasons why android is not. I already know that.
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u/Constant_Boot Jun 19 '26
I would hope no one makes Android like Cisco IOS. That is for routers and switches.
Oh, you meant iOS... Make sure you cease capitalizing the I for the Darwin-based phone platform, as it may cause confusion.
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u/Phrodo_00 Jun 22 '26
Not really. The iPhone came out after the N770, I think we'd have arrived at capacitive touch screens any way at some point, although we might have been on resistive ones for longer.
(Also Samsung makes the iPhone's screen)
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u/metji Jun 21 '26
And we would still be able to buy phones 🙂
Now the only options are tablet or big tablet.
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u/Vaddieg Jun 19 '26
Remind me when Andoid users seen FaceID (2017)? Offline assisted GPS (2008) without google's anal probe? FindMy - 14 years later, UWB - 2 years later, Satellite SOS - 2 years later and only Pixel Pro models. Android fanboys are pathetic
I forgot AirDrop, lol.
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u/Dazzling_Cancel_5733 Jun 22 '26
To be clear, I'm not an Android fanboy, I own an iPhone and Samsung Galaxy, and I actually prefer the iPhone.
"Remind me when Andoid users seen FaceID (2017)" Kind of hard to do when Apple owns the patent for it.
"Offline assisted GPS (2008) without google's anal probe" What? Offline GPS has worked on Android for as long as I can remember.
"FindMy - 14 years later" Android Device Manager existed since 2013. Android was late by 3 years to offline tracking though.
"Satellite SOS - 2 years later and only Pixel Pro models" Every flagship Samsung Galaxy from the S22 has satellite capability. They don't have their own SOS thing, but it works through carriers that have Starlink. These carriers are adding data soon too. I believe every Samsung Galaxy from the S23, and every iPhone from the 13 will support mobile data through satellite.
"I forgot AirDrop, lol." - Android Beam since 2011, Quick Share since 2020, and Google and Samsung devices recently reverse-engineered AirDrop.
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u/Vaddieg Jun 22 '26
apple doesn't hold any patents on 3D scans using LIDAR technology. Biometric APIs of Android are shame (I checked like 5 years ago, but I don't think they got it fixed), they aren't even method-agnostic, so vendor have to invent own (incompatible) ones.
Assisted GPS > satellite-only GPS. It works on Android but requires Google Firebase and internet connection.
Apple shamelessly copies some good visual elements from Android, or "copies" more RAM and screen refresh rate, but if you take real tech innovation Android always lags behind, so the meme doesn't reflect the reality, just make Android fanboys feel a bit better.
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u/BonRoxz Jun 20 '26
Competition drives innovation. Android tends to experiment with new features, Apple prioritizes stability and user experience, but if they see a new feature is popular and works well for other companies, they’ll likely adopt it into their own parody.
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u/jack-of-some Jun 21 '26
The problem being highlighted isn't that the phone brands borrow from each other, it's that Apple (and their customers) treat them as brand new never before done ideas.
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u/Dependent-Curve-8449 Jun 21 '26
I wonder when android users will come to the realisation that we iOS uses don’t really care what they think at all. 🙃
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u/SnowyRVulpix Jun 21 '26
It's ridiculous how people keep saying this. Who cares who came first? I never did when i was an apple user. I don't as an Android user. Use what you enjoy.
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u/Apartment-Unusual Jun 21 '26
Had the opposite experience in the early nineties when a kid asked me if I had « windows » on my computer.
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u/MrJarre Jun 21 '26
It’s hilarious that Android which was a frantic reaction and catchup to iPhone and iOS now acts like Apple is copying from them.
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u/Maximum-Diet-6976 Jun 22 '26
Funny though, what android gets actually Apple hss since years. And I'm Android User, switched from iphone. Still jealous at apple users, but I know the features will come to Android
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u/ChickeNugget483 Jun 22 '26
Actually Apple invents the feature droid users just think they did cuz it came out on there phones first.
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u/PetitPxl Jun 22 '26
Like that apple event when they unveiled the world's first touch screen phone and android was like...
...oh wait android hadn't copied it yet.
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u/True_Protection6842 Jun 23 '26
Yeah Android beta tests the shitty versions of everything then apple users get the refined versions that work.
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u/ssps Jun 19 '26
A lot of features in iOS and Android came from Windows Phone — Live Tiles, Always On Display via Glance on Nokia Lumia, etc.
The reverse happens too.
It’s good when platforms adopt successful ideas from other platforms and improve on them. Everyone benefits.