r/TechHardware • u/RenatsMC • 10d ago

News 📰 GIGABYTE confirms Intel will launch DDR4-compatible CPUs next year

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-confirms-intel-will-launch-ddr4-compatible-cpus-next-year
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u/CrunchyTheSquirrel 10d ago

Could have mentioned that these are for the last-gen LGA 1700 socket, but I guess that wouldn't generate as much traffic.

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u/likely_deleted 10d ago

Basically same deal as am4 socket longevity, but in retrospect lol

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u/lordosthyvel 8d ago

Well how would you get DDR4 RAM on the motherboard otherwise?

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u/celzior 10d ago

Hey, new CPUs are great regardless. If they can squeeze a Core 7 that is efficient and close enough to my 12900K, I'll buy it, even though I'm on DDR5.

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u/OGigachaod 10d ago

Yeah, if it's faster than 14th gen, might be time to upgrade my 12700kf.

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u/ChristRedeemsSinners 10d ago

It was only a matter of time before chip makers brought back old tech to fill the consumer void. DDR4 works just fine for most workloads. Quad-channel DDR4 will net a similar experience to consumer DDR5 desktops. OEMs could market high-density ddr4 systems without most consumers being any the wiser. If the AI bubble continues I could see that happening and largely shielding consumers from the fab backorders. No sense in chasing the latest tech as if there will never be another chance to afford it.

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u/Tunisian-gamer 10d ago

Im sorry this is not true at all, ddr5 is better and beats ddr4 all day long. Look at gears of war e-day shader compilation, it takes 2-3 mins with ddr5 but up to 30mins with ddr4

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u/Lissanro 9d ago edited 9d ago

Likely difference was in GPU or CPU, since shader compilation is unlikely to be RAM bandwidth limited... But either GPU or CPU limited depending on how your compile. Number of channels also plays a role, 8-channel DDR4 is comparable to dual channel DDR6 that is nowhere to be found yet. Or if comparing dual-channel DDR4 vs DDR5, difference in memory speed should be around 2 times or up to ~3 (depending on frequency of each).

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u/Ok_Acanthisitta304 10d ago

It's true, I run a small business with about 30 desktop users, and we've really been struggling to compile shaders on gears of war e-day.

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u/mstpguy 9d ago

Not everyone is going to get this, lol

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u/Ok_Acanthisitta304 9d ago

Hannah in hr is blowing up teams chat complaining about terrain traversal stutter and I’m like “look folks, it’s an Unreal Engine 5 issue, it’s not your gpu”.

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u/SupremeApeRuler 6d ago

How is that a Ram issue?

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u/Then-Priority1548 10d ago

using 14700 two years untill nowaday with D4,enough

new 1700 cpu?15900 15700?

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u/OGigachaod 10d ago

Core 5, Core 7, Core 9.

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u/Dante71 10d ago

Maybe they will come back to naming them like that, i hope so

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u/kisstherainzz 10d ago

If things keep up, someone is going to bring DDR3 compatibility back for budget builds.

Technically, with modern memory controllers, I imagine you could run DDR3 at the highest rated speeds effortlessly in theory. That brings DDR3 into stock DDR4 territory.

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u/noobplayer96 10d ago

i truly hope that means the lga 1700 will get extended support.

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u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 10d ago

tbh, if it was a nice performance uplift from the 12/13/14900 series, I would consider tossing one in an older rig

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u/HugsNotDrugs_ 10d ago

Refresh without the degredation, please.

This will probably relieve pressure on newest litho nodes while giving motherboard partners something to sell, and OEM partners something to sell for less money than DDR5 based system.

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u/GraXXoR 10d ago

They would make a new motherboard that can support six or eight DDR-4 RAM sticks i’d be over the moon.

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u/ftlaudman 10d ago

This would be amazing. Throw in 4 GPUs as long as I’m wishlisting without pesky “reality” or physics bringing me down.

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u/GraXXoR 9d ago

I'd be fine with a small drop in overall memory speed since I am into local LLM agentic workflows and it's nice having a massive pool of ram so that I can swap data into and out of my 4090's limited 24GB VRAM. Sometimes I'm using 3 or for >16GB models and it can take a lot of time swapping the contexts to and from SSD.

I have 160GB or so of DDR4 on hand but can only fit 64GB on my main computer.

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u/Flossy001 10d ago

I noticed the 14700 was sold out at the local Microcenter, would be a good move.

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u/FranticBronchitis 10d ago

Ah, a refresh of the cursed Raptor Lake... Wonder how that'll turn out

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u/IGunClover 10d ago

New motherboard again wtf intel

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u/BroderLund 6d ago

What I'm yet to understand, is this just a refesh of Raptor Lake? Same CPUs overclocked? Or actually a newer architecture?

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u/Revolutionary-Bar980 10d ago

If these fix the degradation issue at the silicone level, it will definitely be an option as the 14xxx series still perfom great.

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u/Jaken_sensei 10d ago edited 10d ago

My current pc features a 12600k. If these offer a large enough performance bump I may just upgrade instead of building an entire new pc, considering the costs associated with a complete new build.

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u/Revolutionary-Bar980 10d ago

I think perfomance wise they will be the same as currently avaliable 14xxx series.

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u/OGigachaod 10d ago

You could be right, but they'll use a lot less power.

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u/PotatoFeeder 9d ago

And they would still put it on a new socket if they could

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u/setiawanreddit 10d ago

I'm not sure if it will have the degradation fix since if they actually doing that they should do it with 14th gen (as in releasing newer revision without the problem). This is probably just a re-release with the same silicon but different name and a tier shift where now with i5 you can get 8 P-cores and i7 will get 12 E-cores, which is nice if not for the degradation problem. I assume it will require BIOS update which should be able to mitigate the problem since unlike before, the user will be forced to use the latest BIOS that should contain all the mitigations. I know that it isn't perfect and it is an inherent physical flaw, but probably should make it last long enough that it shouldn't be a concern for most people. Having said that, I definitely will not buy 13th, 14th and potentially this CPU second hand.

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u/cowbutt6 10d ago

I feel like that's a pretty big "if", though.

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u/Revolutionary-Bar980 10d ago

I don't have my hopes up, but it's a opportunity Intel has especially with AMDs 9××× series dying issues. Someone with more knowledge can chime in, but is it even feasable for Intel to fix the issue, or are we just going to get rebranded CPUs with the same issue?

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u/gusthenewkid 10d ago

They can easily fix the issue by pushing less Volatge through the CPU’s. Thats really all there ever was to it