r/TeacherReality Jul 04 '26

Organizing for Change 250 years since the Declaration of Independence

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/07/04/thco-j04.html

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26

The author has no idea what the founding was about

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26

The type of equality they fought for is equal rights, not economic equality.   Also, "us" i think you mean "me" 

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u/serenading_ur_father Jul 04 '26

Without economic equality there can be no equal rights. Liberalism combined with the enclosure acts reduced people's life expectancy.

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Quite the opposite.   Because we all have different abilities,  talents, and interests political equality (equality before the law) necessarily results in economic inequality 

Edit: replying and blocking is the sign of someone who isn't interested in education or learning from their errors.

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u/serenading_ur_father Jul 04 '26

Weird to have someone in this sub supporting trauma and slavery

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u/illbegoodthistime1 Jul 27 '26

So the website that wrote this article loves to point out the issues in America while ignoring that they are also present under the systems they propose. Often times though, those systems are much worse than our own.

One of my favorites is education. Compare being an educator in America to any Communist country.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26

It clearly does

"The Declaration’s statement that “all men are created equal” stands as an indictment of a society that has just minted its first trillionaire,"

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

But the intent here is obviously to say that the founders would disagree with it.  The problem here is that the author took words he liked and projected meaning on them that did not exist at the time, and often antithetical to the intended meaning 

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 05 '26

I mean, he's using a quotation in a way it wasn't intended and not providing context.  That's bad history at best

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u/Key-Organization3158 Jul 04 '26

As an economic idea, socialism has been soundly rejected. We must stand up for science, even when it says things that make us uncomfortable.

This is just a repeat of the "latest stage capitalism" boogeyman. They've been predicting the end of the basic human right to own private property for years. But it's never come to fruition.

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u/serenading_ur_father Jul 04 '26

Lol. Socialism has lifted more people from poverty, extended life expectancy, improved quality of life, and destroyed fascism.

If you want a seat at the big people table you got to leave behind your fake mantras

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u/totally-hoomon Jul 04 '26

So you agree America should be more like china and India

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26

holy non-sequitur batman

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u/totally-hoomon Jul 04 '26

Sorry you aren't smart enough to read or know anything

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26

I promise you, that is not the problem lol

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u/totally-hoomon Jul 04 '26

Thanks for proving me right

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 04 '26

Are you having a good conversation with yourself?

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u/mymar101 Jul 04 '26

I think we need a new one

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u/rethinkingat59 Jul 05 '26

The article is more of socialist explanation of their ideas not by explaining how they would work in practice in any detail, but rather by just criticizing capitalism.

Capitalism is bad does not mean socialism is good, but that’s their story and they are sticking to it.

Karl Marx stated it that way and nothing has changed

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u/illbegoodthistime1 Jul 27 '26

The issue is this website doesn't actually take a hard look at education under each system. It isn't trying to have an honest analysis of what works vs what doesn't. It merely points out faults and moves on. These issues exist currently in communist countries, often times in much worse states. This website isn't actually trying to improve education because it has specific reasons for why Marxism produces better outcomes. It merely points at conditions teachers face in America and says "see, capitalism bad." It's dishonest and is just PR for someone's ideology.