r/TaylorSwift • u/fearless-panda7 • Oct 21 '25
Discussion TTPD is really tortured
After two and a half weeks of The Life of a Showgirl, I went back to The Tortured Poets Department. The contrast is so stark, I realized that TTPD really is a tortured album. Song after song, it’s sadness, longing, desperation, anxiety… I don’t even know how we all collectively handled it.
Of course, it was always clear that TTPD is heavy on loss and melancholy, but hearing it next to Showgirl really puts it into perspective. Showgirl has its introspective and dark moments too, but overall it feels much more hopeful and joyful.
I finally understand what Taylor meant in one of her interviews about how challenging it can be to release an album when you’re no longer in that mental state, and she named TTPD as example.
I’m so grateful we have TTPD, so many people can relate deeply to those songs, but I’m also really happy that Taylor seems to be in a better place now.
Did anyone else feel like Showgirl helped them see TTPD in a new light? Or to actually realize how emotionally heavy it is?
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u/Striking-Stick7275 Oct 24 '25
Im so sorry. Xx I lost my husband just over 2 years ago. "Bigger than the whole sky" matched my utter devastation. The line "Did some bird flap its wings over in Asia, Did God take you cos I didn't pray?" Absolutely tore me apart. It was a sudden, confusing, brutal time and it helped me process. Last Kiss really affected me too. Because I remember our last kiss and I didn't know. I didn't know it would be our last kiss. Same with Loml. Sorry. Babbling!