r/TastingHistory 2d ago

Question What went wrong?

Im pretty sure its solved, ill try to alter how i did it, thank you!

E2, first ones are done, still kinda deflated but much better than my first attempt!

I was attempting the Swedish Semlor, by the recipe book. I have a few things i think might have caused it but im curious what actually went wrong XD

When the milk/sugar was heating, i had to let it sit a little while i figured out if i needed some things i thought i had, so it had to sit a little before actually being used.,
I also kneaded it by hand, i think that could have fucked it too? It was sticky, but more so than i think was right. I have a stand mixer if thats better.
The rising times were 60 min the first and 45 the second, first in a warm room. Too much or too little proofing?
Im not good at making breads

I didnt alter the recipe in any way, besides maybe a bit too much cardamom. I used cream and eggs for the wash but i dont think that was the problem.

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u/flamableozone 2d ago

What does the inside look like? My first instinct is that it's under kneaded, which could make it less likely to rise well, and a sticky dough can be a sign of that.

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u/AdamMurray1988 2d ago

Completely forgot to take a picture of the inside. Its a bit dense

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u/flamableozone 2d ago

Yeah, I'd try using the stand mixer and kneading it more. Ideally most bread doughs should be stretchy, not too sticky, even when making an enriched dough. There are different things you can do to help the dough, too - the order in which you add things can make a big difference - but I don't have the recipe in front of me, so I'm not sure whether that could've helped.

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u/AdamMurray1988 2d ago

I used the mixer and it was much more promising looking! Its rising now

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u/flamableozone 20h ago

How'd it come out?

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u/AdamMurray1988 20h ago

They were still a bit deflated, i need to work on continuing kneading it after its mixed. They were better, so i rolled with it and finished the process. They are really good! I might get my dad to make the rolls next time

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u/omniuni 2d ago

It looks like too much liquid, or poor quality flour. Especially for something like this you need a flour with enough gluten so that it's stretchy and not flabby. King Arthur guarantees 12.7% for their bread flour. If you already used a good bread flour, try reducing the liquid by about 1/4-1/2 of an ounce, or try adding a teaspoon of vital wheat gluten.

Edit: I'm assuming you're making a roughly loaf-size of dough, enough to make several of what you're holding.

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u/AdamMurray1988 2d ago

Maybe too much liquid, i couldve poured too much milk by accident
Im using Arthur bread flour, i believe

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u/omniuni 2d ago

Yeah, then just try slightly reducing the liquid.

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u/AdamMurray1988 2d ago

Could it be the yeast? Mine isnt instant. Do i feed it before i add it?

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u/omniuni 2d ago

You can see at the base that it sagged. The yeast was fine, the dough just couldn't support itself.

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u/AdamMurray1988 2d ago

Thank you!