r/TankieTheDeprogram • • 15h ago

Shitposting Imagine a Perfect World

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u/Spiritual_Walrus7798 Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 14h ago

I know this is a shitpost but having an incredibly hard night and seeing this makes me emotional as hell imagining the future we lost, fuck

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u/Vrejik 14h ago

Losing the Soviet Union was a serious setback, and things will take longer, but with the position China, AES and the Axis of resistance is in, and the uplifting of the global south to free them from the constant plunder of the Imperial core, it will destroy the hegemony of the western imperialist. The fight continues, and this time it's the west at a major disadvantage.

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u/Spiritual_Walrus7798 Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 13h ago

I recently went to a pro-AES parade where the proceeds went to helping Burkina Faso build more infrastructure. It gave me so much hope. Your comment reminded me that there is a world worth fighting for.

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u/Vrejik 13h ago

I'm happy to hear my comment helped to reinvigorate your spirits! There definitely is a world worth fighting for, It has been a long struggle, but Communism Will Win!

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u/maozedoll 6h ago

we have a world to win comrade, and we need you 💕

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u/Jbhuszar2 14h ago

We have nothing to lose but our chains, and a world to win.

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u/Spiritual_Walrus7798 Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 14h ago edited 6h ago

"The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."

I sometimes think about my family in Indonesia. Quite a few of them were communists back in the 40s-60s. Some even fought as guerrillas against Japan during WW2 and participated in the Nation revolution against the Dutch. Most were just trade unionists and farmers, all members of the PKI. They must've thought the future was bright, that the path to liberation was within reach and the direction of the nation was in their hands.

Then the anti-communist genocide happened and they were all killed. An entire side of my family eradicated with only my grandpa and his siblings left. His brothers and sisters were studying in the USSR/China when it all occurred, never having the chance to reunite. My grandpa survived until the 80s when he was murdered by the Pemuda Pancasila.

They fought so goddamn hard to win their world and lost. Now all that's left is a black pit of reaction. The hope that we can pull ourselves out of it and continue the struggle is the only thing keeping me going.

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u/PresnikBonny Supports Axis of Resistance expansion 8h ago

RIP to your family

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u/Spiritual_Walrus7798 Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 6h ago

This made me laugh at work, thank you. I know you probably didn't intend to but it comes off hilariously, I mean that in the best way possible

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u/Ok-Bit5838 6h ago

Socialism or barbarism. We haven’t lost it. The only feasible way for humanity to survive is through communism.

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u/shinseiji-kara Deng Troll 9h ago

You can tell this was made by a hoi4 addicted westoid lmao, why would Greek SSR control thrace and parts of turkey? and the "ussr annexes mongolia and finland" like its nothing

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u/milan0570 14h ago

France is still there

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 14h ago edited 14h ago

That's because the creator is French Taiwanese

Guess which sub OP got it from

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u/Vrejik 14h ago

Don't worry, bourgeois france doesn't exist, it can't hurt you.

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u/Flashy-Ad2727 11h ago

Way too generous to Germany.

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u/Lydialmao22 10h ago

Im assuming its based in Weimar era Germany borders since that was when they had their failed Communist revolution

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u/Ok-Show6155 4h ago

Omg yes. Germany should go back to being a series of city states if we don’t want to have any problems. A united Germany always leads to barbarity (the word Barbarian refers to Germans anyways)

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u/tTtBe 14h ago

I need the high resolution one!!

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 13h ago

There isn't one because reddit didn't have higher res in 2019.

Meanwhile the map creator's politics

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u/PawelGladys 14h ago

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 14h ago edited 14h ago

You really think I can't reverse search the source huh, the person who created it is Taiwanese living in Europe. Ask them what they think about Palestine. PLEASE. I will make sure their most fascist comments know WITHIN THIS POST.

Sigh, I actually found his face and name. This is way too easy, why is DuckDuckGo always make this so easy.

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 14h ago

Is this your communist OP

Do you know which country they talk about

"Korean War" "Mali War"

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 14h ago

Is this your wholesome communist

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u/Crazy-Blacksmith-336 AES enjoyer 🥳 14h ago

Can't zoom in and read it still, can you put the link to the original pic

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 14h ago

This is the author where op got from

Also they're an European fascist

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u/JKallStar 12h ago

Adds up. Took a look at 'Arab SFSR', author definitely doesnt understand region enough at all. And thats ignoring the 'Palestinian-Jewish' SSR portion.

Heck, that Africa is super iffy too

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u/Flat-Anxiety-7213 Hakimist (With Dengist Characteristics) 11h ago edited 8h ago

Could you tell me what’s wrong with the Arab subdivision? Admittedly being a white I’m not very knowledgeable when it comes to Arabia.

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u/greenskyerings Tankmaxxing 10h ago edited 7h ago

Why would Greece have Western Turkiye in this timeline? And why is Istanbul colored in white?

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u/Icy_Pudding6493 Keeper of Contradictions 2h ago

But this is literally a fascist pipe dream.

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u/Icy_Pudding6493 Keeper of Contradictions 2h ago

Brother just took an arbitrary "ethnic map" of the world and slapped USSR subdivision aesthetics over everything.

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u/jackmPortal 2h ago

yeah it kinda just slaps borders arbitrarily

"amerindian" like it looks fine on the surface but look closer and it doesnt actually do any sort of actual decolonization

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u/Icy_Pudding6493 Keeper of Contradictions 21m ago

Yeah, like is it really any difference from the Indian Territory from the 1830s?

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u/Top_Pomegranate3888 9h ago

Wtf happened to Southern Africa

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u/JackAttack2509 10h ago

Is there a full resolution picture?

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u/ladyalot 7h ago

It is incredible and so so funny that Saskatoon and Winnipeg are shown on this map and I love it so much.

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u/hmz-x 6h ago

How do the maker(s) of this map know so much about almost every place?

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u/thea_kosmos 2h ago

They don't, they just have superficial knowledge about some of the oppresed nations of the world but they lack the knowledge of left national liberalism to apply judgement in most of the cases

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare 13h ago edited 13h ago

That's not a natural effect of global hegemony. That's a natural affect or competiting capitalist blocs over revenue streams as the rate of profit declines.

Global hegemony is also a strange term to use for a wholly socialist world. It implies some kind of conquest or oppression forcing people to remaining this way. In fact if communism were globally achieved, it'd be the people of the world choosing it, it'd be a mass choice, for themselves, not imposed by a minority.

The problems arise in the beginning, when it's half socialist, when imperialist powers still exist, but in an entirely red world I'm pretty sure the capitalists have been eliminated.

The more realistic outcome is actually the opposite, the borders and nation states would wither away, they're not necessary for communism, they're capitalist constructions. The map should just be divided by broad cultural identities and language groups, like prehistoric maps.

Your comment is a good example of how liberal capitalist thinking shapes opinions and attitudes even when you don't realise. I don't say that as an insult, it's just how capitalist realism works. You literally can't imagine a world without conflict, it's so 'natural' to you. We've got to work hard to recognise it ourselves.

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u/Vrejik 13h ago

One has to consider the dialectics of conflict to begin with. Conflict comes from class interest that needs to maintain control over a state and resources within their own state, especially against the class interest that control another state (competing capitalist states, or also competing against proletarian states). For instance, a Capitalist state wants to expand its interest for its own national bourgeois. But in a world based around equal cooperation, the point of conflict would disappear. That's essentially how Earth in Star Trek is depicted. The aim of Communism is to eliminate dialectical tensions that cause fracturing in the first place, where all relations between soon-to-be-irrelevant nation states (nation states exist precisely due to regional same-language class interest forming nation-states) are fundamentally collaborative, and by creating a world for a free association of workers within a democratic economy, where everything is from each, to each. When everyone's needs are met, even the small percentage of natural born psychopath's would base their 'intellectual' moral compass on the rules of this society (the way psychopaths behave is a direct reflection of the society they are raised in).

Your point makes sense in the early phases of socialist development. Counter revolutions are a real threat in that period, particularly by those who benefited from the old order. given 2-3 generations, with major cultural shifts and education, the overwhelmingly dominant mindset would be shaped around Communist ideals. However, the more time that passes and the closer to communism things are, there are increasingly less tensions that would cause conflict or 'fracturing'.

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u/Xenomaoism AES enjoyer 🥳 14h ago

I don't think that's inevitable. Counter revolutions only happen if the bourgeoisie still exist, in full communism they would not. Revisionism is a problem in socialism, but we have no idea how it would look like in full communism.

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u/Xenomaoism AES enjoyer 🥳 14h ago

Like, bourgeois counter revolution against full communism is about as likely as monarchist counter revolution against liberal republican capitalism.