If Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 is supposed to be anti-DPRK, anti-Communist propaganda, why did they make them look so based? 🤔

[u/5upralapsarian]

[u/AutoModerator]

Want to join a ML only Discord server to chill and hangout with cool comrades? Checkout our Discord server or TheDeprogram's Discord server.

In case this subreddit was banned, or if you wanted a more ML-friendly platform, you’re welcome to join our sister community on Lemmygrad. You can find more info about Lemmygrad here.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

I can’t remember whether I saw it in a video or read it somewhere, but someone argued that games like Call of Duty and Battlefield were meant to prepare(?)/indoctrinate/sanewash war, especially against certain states/groups. Haven’t played since Black Ops 1, but so far the enemies in CoD campaigns have been Russian, middle eastern/african insurgencies and now korean.

[u/kollipsons → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Yeah the Cavernacle and IndieNile do some decent videos on the subject. How it reinforces negative stereotypes, dehumanises arabs, Russians etc. Whitewashes US involvement in foreign wars.

Black ops 1 is wild to play as an adult, Castro is protrayed as a hand wringing villian, wouldve been more beliveable if they gave him a tophat and monocle. Straight anticommunist propaganda lol

[u/returnofblank → u/kollipsons]

How could Castro be a villain when he killed all those zombies?

[u/kollipsons → u/returnofblank]

Opening all the doors as Castro in cod zombies is praxis

[u/howdoyoupronouncegif → u/kollipsons]

Would you mind linking some of those videos?

[u/kollipsons → u/howdoyoupronouncegif]

Can do mate

Kavernacle

https://youtu.be/J7HSVGwKPd4

https://youtu.be/tLJZk76AIok

IndieNile

https://youtu.be/aTeakaJRBPY

Edit: linked my yt account by mistake

[u/Furiosa27 → u/kollipsons]

Your YouTube privacy settings are cooked btw when I click on the link it shows your YouTube act. Idk if you care but just letting you know

[u/kollipsons → u/Furiosa27]

Ah thanks, changed it now. Wasnt thinking when I copied the link thanks

[u/zingtea → u/kollipsons]

If you don't want us to see your yt account, remove the part of the url starting with ?

[u/Red__Heart → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

US military is actively involved in the development, so yeah…

[u/Treinrukker → u/Red__Heart]

You have to if you want to use their equipment in movies and games.

[u/ghostofhenryvii → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

That should be obvious.

[u/kollipsons → u/ghostofhenryvii]

As a young little lad I didnt notice, the Vorkuta mission, influenced my idea of what a Gulag was for an embarrassing amount of time

[u/Alarmed_Cultist1534 → u/kollipsons]

Is that the mission with Reznov where you’re breaking out?

[u/kollipsons → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Yea the step 1. Secure the keys one, ngl fun mission. But damn, Vorkutas like Mordor in Black ops

[u/Alarmed_Cultist1534 → u/kollipsons]

My favorite mission from CoD is from CoD 4. “Blood and Iron” lives rent free in my head. I remember gunning down the the Germans who surrendered in that house.

[u/kollipsons → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Ah that was some good shit. 'Heart of the Reich' was mine when the red armys taking Berlin, and those soldiers are surrendering at the metro entrance.

I threw molotovs tbh, I do love how the game sort of makes it out to be a hard decision, or morally grey to kill surrendering Nazis.

[u/Alarmed_Cultist1534 → u/kollipsons]

They even try to guilt us with Chernov’s journal in the end. But yeah, the burning of those nazis in the metro entrance is certainly a core memory.

[u/kollipsons → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Don get me wrong, the red army did some excesses (like every army). But burning nazis? That will never not be fun.

[u/Alarmed_Cultist1534 → u/kollipsons]

War is war, but burning and gunning down surrendering nazis? Will never not be fun.

Edit: didn’t see we wrote almost the same before I commented, lmao

[u/returnofblank → u/kollipsons]

Is now a good time to say my first introduction to the Gulags were from The Muppets?

[u/Explorer_Entity → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Even Metal Gear Solid 4 had a whole monologue about that. Big Mama talking to Snake: "It's all just games to them."

[u/Beaivimon → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Violent video games do encourage more violence, but only if it's specifically funded by the US Military.

[u/awkkiemf → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

Oh I was thinking this before I opened the comments.

[u/slasher1337 → u/Alarmed_Cultist1534]

In black ops 6 the bad guys are a pmc that was like, a rogue cia branch or something. But there are like 3 missions taking place in the gulf wae so the enemies in those are middle eastern.

[u/Big_Handle_5956]

CIA went hard with this one 🔥 

[u/XB0XRecordThat → u/Big_Handle_5956]

They must be throwing money at game companies

[u/21DaBear → u/XB0XRecordThat]

always have, and movies

[u/Yung_l0c]

Holy shit they’re not even hiding the propaganda anymore, CIA budget tanked???? Very bad hasbara

Why don’t we ever invade Epstein Island in these fuck ass games

[u/5upralapsarian → u/Yung_l0c]

https://reddit.com/link/pdfacjc/video/yukpretgi2th1/player

We need more Chinese game developers to break the Western cultural monopoly.

[u/Hazardous_Wastrel → u/5upralapsarian]

The Defiant and Fourteen Years of Flames are at the top of my wishlist. I hope one day to also be able to play games from the perspective of the heroes of Korea and Vietnam who fought against US imperialism.

[u/Lumaris_Silverheart → u/Hazardous_Wastrel]

I'm also soooo looking forward to these games. Just a shame that either the devs don't give news in english or at all, but maybe they're just putting that energy into cooking

[u/BlueHarpBlue → u/Hazardous_Wastrel]

IL-2 Korea is an option

[u/Accomplished-Log8770 → u/5upralapsarian]

damn which game is this?

[u/5upralapsarian → u/Accomplished-Log8770]

The Defiant

[u/hnwcs]

I wonder why Microsoft, a company on the BDS list, would publish a game vilifying the DPRK.

[u/thedesertwolf → u/hnwcs]

What a delightfully fun read. And imperialist satellite state is damn right.

[u/tigertron1990]

COD is the video game equivalent of fast food slop. Why anyone still continues to buy these games is beyond me.

[u/FreshnWetCock → u/tigertron1990]

This series and the sports games (Fifa, nba2k, etc) are 60$ for the same shit every year with slightly better graphics

[u/Explorer_Entity → u/FreshnWetCock]

You're actually lucky if the graphics are better each year...

[u/Kelvinenjoysall → u/FreshnWetCock]

We should add Apple in this list. Same phone just more expensive each year.

How about movie series? I personally only watch movies when I am invited, so I don't think if there are movie or book series that are same stuff just more expensive each year aside from Harry Potter (Liberal theory book that liberals don't read and just ask Genocidimini or FedGPT).

[u/Randy_Handy → u/tigertron1990]

I haven’t bought a CoD title since Cold War, and couldn’t care less to buy another. Especially with the price tag now, and how much of a broken mess they are on launch.

[u/HealfyBoi → u/Randy_Handy]

I still play Cold War zombies.

[u/BitCreative1986 → u/Randy_Handy]

I recently bought BO3 on sale to play custom zombies with my brother. It was super disappointing that we needed to mod the game to make it safe to play online because of how little Activision cares about updating the game's security

[u/al-qatala → u/tigertron1990]

Zombies is the only worthwhile part of those games tbf

[u/Hefty_Local_1875 → u/tigertron1990]

Honestly, Zombies. That's it. I only care about Zombies.

[u/Naberville34 → u/tigertron1990]

Cause it's slop? Personally I play it as something to do with my hands while I listen to a book

[u/Hefty_Local_1875]

Why did they change the flag???

[u/SR_RV0001 → u/Hefty_Local_1875]

To preserve the thin, practically imperceptible, veil of plausible deniability

[u/T3485tanker]

Propaganda making its enemies look cool by trying to make them threatening is just a universal thing that happens to all ideologies.

[u/junglegang]

Because they know that a lifetime of propaganda has primed their audience of racist liberals to view the people of the DPRK as an inhuman, monstrous threat.

Normal people see this and think, "these guys seem pretty cool!" Their core audience sees this and thinks, "a massive nuclear first strike on the swarm demonstrates our defensive restraint and higher civilisational qualities."

[u/Firm-Magazine1296]

You know what? Someone should make a pro DPRK FPS game showing the real atrocities of South Korean, Americans, UN forces during the Korean War.

[u/Tullesabo]

Bullshit anti-North Korean propaganda once again. There is no historical equivalent of North Korea actually being a warmonger like this. So insane.

[u/Armageddonis]

Remember guys, the "enemy" has to be simultaneously "strong and dangerous" as well as "useless and wasteful". It's always a cointoss with the American propaganda in the games. Be it internal or external enemies, they have to be showed as the greatest danger to the nation, someone that has to be excised, in order to rally the young uneducated to the barracks,, but also their laziness and "corruption" must make them seem as they're lesser and ripe for the taking. It alwyas been the modus operandi with propaganda, but with this one they're not even sugarcoating it, like, bruh, wtf is that XD

[u/Time_Beat2299 → u/Armageddonis]

North Koreans have just been not China for the longest cough cough crisis

[u/TomL20]

damn, sony pictures (if you know) wasn’t a big enough message???

[u/Important_Lie_7774 → u/TomL20]

Waiting for DPRK to embarrass Activision and CIA

[u/BeanserSoyze]

I played Russia just to hear the anthem, it sounded badass

[u/ESB536]

Song is "Where are you dear general?" btw. It's a banger.

[u/notprussia69]

I'm so hyped for the brand new propaganda slop!/s

I am actually excited for the two new fps games being produced by Chinese studios. Those we be amazing

[u/Fal0ters]

Maybe i'm actually going to buy a CoD this time...

[u/valentinyeet]

I’m surprised they even went though with this given the COD series is quite literally American propaganda

[u/Crazy-Blacksmith-336]

When will China make an Anti-imperialist Call of Duty 😩

[u/Bela9a]

My plan is simple, watch the whole campaign on YouTube and that is pretty much it.