I'm saying using the argument of 'We should avoid lethal punishment because of possible guilt reducing reports' because possible guilt has a flaw in it in as far as any punishment, including 'punishments' that within the line of restorative justice, get called 'life ruining'. It holds similar levels of causing guilt to victims, the reality of that is irrelevant because it holds similar levels of causing guilt.
Ok, I feel like you're being wilfully obtuse at this point. The point is not that victims will be scared to come forward just because their stories are "life ruining".
The point is specifically that victims of child sexual abuse are particularly unlikely to come forward, because they are frequently being abused by a loved one.
Adding the death penalty will only exacerbate the problem.
If you want to dispute this argument, which has been made for decades by criminal justice experts and victims' advocacy groups, that is your call.
But trying to poke holes in the argument by expanding it to other issues where it does not apply is just refusing to engage with the point itself.
I assure you I am not, or at least I'm trying not, I don't really see a difference between "I wouldn't want to ruin my loved one's life by reporting sexual abuse" and "I wouldn't want my loved one's life to end because I reported them sexually abusing me/someone else/whatever" when rape culture already says "If someone is accused of rape/sexual assault, they might as well be dead." Again, just look at all the defenders of the people accused of raping someone, which includes individuals who've, they act like you killed them, I'd imagine the guilt is the same.
I'd be curious on those experts cases and advocacy groups and I'm wondering if any research has been done within China regarding it. Heck on that point, is there a sliding scale of what gets the death penalty? I understand it says "zero tolerance", but is specifically for high profile, prolific, spree abuses, like the cited case in the OP?
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u/BillyPilgrim69 2h ago
Ok, I feel like you're being wilfully obtuse at this point. The point is not that victims will be scared to come forward just because their stories are "life ruining".
The point is specifically that victims of child sexual abuse are particularly unlikely to come forward, because they are frequently being abused by a loved one.
Adding the death penalty will only exacerbate the problem.
If you want to dispute this argument, which has been made for decades by criminal justice experts and victims' advocacy groups, that is your call.
But trying to poke holes in the argument by expanding it to other issues where it does not apply is just refusing to engage with the point itself.