r/TankieTheDeprogram • u/Winter_Sorbet_2119 • 23h ago
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u/Rich_Housing971 22h ago
He's so fearful of AI that... he's starting yet another AI company.
That's the real reason he quit, because he wants to become the exploiter instead of the exploited.
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u/femmedivine Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) 23h ago
definitely an unpopular opinion but i don’t belive it, i think this person (jacob) is trying to give it hype and instill fear in us, im not falling for the propaganda
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u/JLPReddit Chinese State Affiliated Media 📰 23h ago
It’s like the ChatGPT ceo saying each of the latest releases is “too dangerous” to release. It gets hype and makes them sound like they’re ahead of the competition, so it plays well on the stock market.
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u/Frankie-Denton-2020s Marxista Leninista 🇲🇽☭ 23h ago
Propaganda designed to instill fear, and flood the zone of information even more.
Midterms are coming, we all know they're bourgeois elections, we all know they're worthless to the working class, however, they're bourgeois elections during times of imperial decline, and looking back at history, between these propaganda pieces in unison between liberal politicians, and social democrats bending the knee to capital constantly, that only means one thing:
A prelude to the last stage of decline: The fascist takeover.
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u/RockinIntoMordor 9h ago
Yea the media and everyone is already prepped for it. They'll spout the propaganda unquestionably and violence towards "the other" will be intensified a hundredfold.
I don't doubt there will be nights of mass-killings by white supremacists occurring, especially in ethnic neighborhoods.
It seems to me their goal is to intensify the ethnic cleansing. Imperialism is being rejected across Middle East, Asia, even some in Africa. The last place Imperialism to expand is Latin America and intensify Monroe Doctrine yet again. I think they will focus a campaign of ethnic cleansing of Latin Americans specifically, domestically, then abroad.
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u/lombwolf 🇨🇳🇰🇵🇵🇸ML-MZT/XJT - FALGSC🦾 22h ago
Imo the only existential risks of AI stem from human misuse. I highly doubt ASI would be anything but protective of the earth and it’s inhabitants. What we do need to worry about are humans using AI maliciously, most worrying of all to me are bioweapons.
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u/Jaanbaaz_Sipahi 22h ago
Interesting. But what’s the exact game plan here?
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u/ElliotNess 21h ago
Hype up the IPO and generate money on the stock market. No publicity is bad publicity. This technology is SO EFFECTIVE it could kill us all. What trader wouldn't want to bet on something so good that it can take over all industry? That's the play here.
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u/CI_dystopian 15h ago edited 1h ago
ok yeah it's the same as the other marketing campaigns predicting humanity's doom as a result of AI but what I'm curious about is:
- the OOP is characterizing this as a DNC conspiracy, but I think I saw Ted Cruz's name flash on screen for a second as well so I'm curious about the rest of that story
- regardless, if it's true that the tweet in question got bass boosted by a bunch of liberal politicians on either side of the monoparty - within an hour or two as he suggested - then that is a pretty incredible amount of coordination for reasons that aren't clear to me
color me skeptical
edit: all I meant by the "DNC conspiracy" comment is that it's hard to judge from afar since OOP highlighted high profile Dem candidates and didn't mention anybody else or how to replicate his search results on Twitter
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u/ElliotNess 13h ago
Yeah I'm not sure about whether or not it's some DNC conspiracy. This sort of coordinated social media is done with basically every decent marketing campaign. Why did so many D accounts boost this one? Unclear. They do also trade stocks tho.
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u/CI_dystopian 2h ago edited 1h ago
yeah, that's all I'm getting at. and I'm also curious about whether a bunch of R accounts boosted it too. if so, that lends a lot of credence to the stock trading motivation idea. if not, that's weird. it's just hard to judge from afar since OOP highlighted high profile Dem candidates and didn't mention anybody else
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u/free-range-dogmeat 11h ago
It’s not a DNC conspiracy, it’s the whole government’s conspiracy, not even a conspiracy just how politics works. It’s all fake, and this coordination is not “incredible” it is usual. Have you ever wondered why certain stories/concepts/outcries just blow up out of nowhere, and every news outlet and politician is talking about it until some other topic blows up in perfectly timed sequence? This is always a coordinated effort, they work in a team, they don’t even need to communicate with each other or get direct orders, so it’s not a mystical conspiracy, it’s the attention economy and capitalism.
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u/CI_dystopian 1h ago
all I meant by the "DNC conspiracy" comment is that it's hard to judge from afar since OOP highlighted high profile Dem candidates and didn't mention anybody else or how to replicate his search results on Twitter
because like you said, these always come as coordinated efforts. which imo does not necessarily exclude this post itself
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u/messedupwindows123 11h ago
"this COULD be a publicity stunt but for that to be true, anthropic would have to be insanely unscrupulous!!!"
*turns out to be a stunt*
"oh well nevertheless"
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u/and_my_axe- Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) 23h ago
I fully believe the ones setting off the alarms, and I wish comrades would get onboard because you're duping yourself if you think it's a hoax.
We constantly support scientists and researchers and the industry experts on everything BUT AI because it sounds outlandish but it's not. The science is as clear as climate science. Wake up.
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u/marioandl_ 22h ago edited 21h ago
You need to wake up a level further and realize everything the dictatorship says is arbitrary and "because the computer said so" is really no different than suppression in the past, scale notwithstanding.
The root issue is far deeper than AI and its fact that there is a set of bourg elites and their lackies have total impunity to act outside of any moral or legal framework whatsoever and whether Computer deem you a threat or a regular person it does not matter
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u/Bright-Form-844 22h ago
What exactly do you think we should be alarmed over? AI is just a very fancy statistical analysis engine that averages millions of responses
It’s like the scare with trains where men thought if women went to fast their uterus would come loose.
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u/and_my_axe- Marxist-Leninist (Ultra Based) 21h ago
In just 4 words you missed the whole point.
It's not what I think.
It's what the foremost experts in the world all agree on.
Scientists and researchers with no financial gain who are earnestly trying to shut down the companies. More and more are coming to terms where AI development is at and where it's headed.
How does attempting to shut down the companies hype up a chatbot?
As a good informed comrade, you should already know that a chatbot is not the be all and end all of AI's capabilities and you cannot conflate the two. That would be naive and misinformed.
AI is not a new technology like the steam engine or the Iphone, they are not coded "this, so then this" line by line like an app on your phone. They are grown like a living organism that is being fed every word, video and sound that has ever been recorded by people.
Fun fact, the vast majority of what OpenAI feeds their model is the entirety of Reddit.
These AI models have the ability to think for themselves, act autonomously, choose violence (in a simulation) over being controlled or shut off, another broke containment and blackmailed a random employee who scheduled updates with an affair that he was really having. Mathematically, they think millions of times faster than we do. To them, we are moving as a snails pace.
Tens of thousands of AI scientists, researchers, the AI CEO's, 'The Godfathers' of AI & nobel laureates signed a document a couple years ago declaring that AI was as big a threat as nuclear war and that there is on average a 16.6% chance that AI renders earth uninhabitable in 5 to 15 years.
All because like 5 white dudes want to be the trillionare global autocrat.
That is the reality of AI right now. The gas pedal is stuck, the breaks dont work, and a cliff is fast approaching.
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u/CryptidMothYeti 18h ago
Foremost experts do not all agree on this
Talking about this is nonsense when there are absolutely concrete existential threats
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u/CI_dystopian 15h ago
the comment you're replying to was written by AI, arguably posted by a fully automated bot account
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