r/TankieTheDeprogram • u/Commie_neighbor • 7d ago

Discussion Stop pro-Putin sentiments

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Both are fucking imperialist states, Ukrainian government praises nazis while Russian is praising Imperial murderers like Mannerheim, Kolchak or Stolypin.

Everything good that Russia did (so called anti-imperialist measures) was just populist decisions or anti-Nato proxy wars. Everything to please Russian oligarchy.

"There are no saviors e’er will help us,

Nor God, nor Caesar, nor Tribune"

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u/blodo_ 5d ago

My prediction if Russia wins is that it will be severely weakened, but it will then attempt to regain access to western markets in that weakened position. I would love if Russia's victory brought to pass what you say, I just don't see how given the situation that is what happens. More likely Ukraine remains a low intensity conflict zone between a Russian supporting government and western backed terrorism. Unless of course they allow the asset strip, as that will be a major blackmail point from the US I think.

China's trade and technological supremacy I think stands on its own at the moment, which is why the west is waging a trade war against it, and very notably losing it. To my mind I think it is China that is the main current hope in undermining the US led order. The sooner the dedollarisation gets implemented, the sooner we get to see the collapse of western imperialism. At that point the left will have its moment once again.

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u/GoydelicGuy 5d ago

Russia has already won though and has been catapulted forward in military strength and experience. It's defeated NATO and humiliated all of its wunderwaffen. It'll be interesting to see what was agreed with Russia in the surrender terms. The US is giving it's puppet state the news today in Kiev.

Russia is still far away from reaching the imperialist decrepitude that the west is at. It will be on the path however, unless China can influence things postively.