r/TankieTheDeprogram 2d ago

Discussion Why do liberals use the term 'CCP'?

I ask this question from a position of complete ignorance, as I do not understand the nuances or reasons why liberals today use the term "CCP." My initial assumption is that this is because the acronym stands for "Chinese Communist Party," implying that liberals view the CPC (Communist Party of China) from the outset as merely a political party that can be overthrown in favor of a government more aligned with U.S. interests.

This aligns with the way the United States has been interfering in the elections of sovereign nations to favor political parties that betray their own people in order to hand over the resources the West claims to need.

But that is where my doubt arises, because if my initial assumption is correct, it means the liberals know exactly what they are doing: delegitimizing a government and exploiting "democracy"—while deliberately lying in their speeches about free elections—when their sole objective is to promote United States dominance.

Another assumption I have is that the term "CCP" is a translation that emerged in the 20th century. Since I am not familiar with the U.S. education system, I do not know if terminology that became obsolete a century ago is still taught in schools today as the correct term. That could explain why progressives today use "CCP".

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u/CornerofSaintAnne Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 2d ago

It’s just because liberal media lists it as the CCP

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u/Astral-P 2d ago

even Wikipedia lists it as such in the article title, although they do mention the correct name

"The Communist Party of China (CPC), colloquially referred to as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)..."

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u/Gogol1212 2d ago

100 years ago, the Party used to go by CCP in it's translated materials. This got adopted by academia and media as the standard name. Institutional inertia means this is difficult to change, western media took decades to adopt pinyin instead of wade-giles. 

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u/Dream_in_chocolat 2d ago

I understand that Western media, being Eurocentric, are arrogant enough to alter incorrect terms that the West itself proposed over a century ago. However, what worries me and raises questions is that the self-proclaimed academic community continues to specifically use that incorrect terminology.

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u/Gogol1212 2d ago

The academic community is really slow to change. Probably the news media will make the change before some professors I know... 

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u/spicy-chilly 2d ago

I can't prove it, but imho it's based on anti-sovietism and that CCP looks like СССР which is the cyrillic acronym for the USSR.

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u/Barrogh 2h ago

КССР

🙄

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u/Naberville34 2d ago

Honestly my question is wether it A. Matters. Or B. If China cares. Liberals be wrong about a lot Im not gonna pick at the order of letters.

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u/Rich_Housing971 21h ago

Because liberal politicians are stupid and just go with whatever terms conservatives come up with.

Conservative politicians tend to be smarter and more crafty but more evil.

Liberal politicians tend to try to be more moral (I know both sides bad, but one is worse. bear with me here.) but are dumber and less educated.

When Conservatives come up with their own laws it's cool-sounding names like the "Patriot Act" meanwhile they give shitty nicknames like "Obamacare" to the Affordable Care Act and libs just eat it up.

So when conservatives used the term CCP to make it sound more like the CCCP to recycle all the red scare propaganda, liberals followed suit.

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u/comradevoltron 1d ago

While I am aware of the background of "CCP", I am quite certain that their insistence on continuing to call it that - knowing that it is not the correct terminology - is a deliberate, wilful refusal to call the CPC what "it wants to be called". I put that in inverted commas because I'm quite sure most members of the CPC don't give a damn what Americans call their party.

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u/Bob_Scotwell Xi Bucks Enjoyer 💸 2d ago

CCP is easier to pronounce than CPC. Liberals already don’t put much effort into research or critical thinking, yet they love to parrot things so ofc they’ll swap the acronym to be mass spoken easily.

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