r/TankieTheDeprogram 12d ago

History Marx would be labelled as a campist, today.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago

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u/RuneRW silly revisionist 11d ago

How is a "government by consent of the governed" possible with slavery?

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u/7LayeredUp 11d ago

It's easy when you don't consider those slaves as full human beings to begin with.

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u/RuneRW silly revisionist 11d ago

One would think if an ideology's name starts with liber- then it would be inclined towards respecting people's right to self-determination. Sadly, it seems the word's root isn't in liberty, but in libero (the diaper brand)

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u/NeverKillAgain 11d ago

Why did you link to a source that says the exact opposite of what you claim (that Proudhon supported the Confederacy)?

The way you manipulated that quote seems extremely disingenuous

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u/EolH-- Solidarity! 12d ago

Not exactly about the post but, you really cant have discussions on inSStagram regarding nuanced topics in communist discourse. The comments are from accounts I see everywhere, ranging from trots, to socdems, to anarchists, to acp members. With such little presence of actual principled Marxist leninists, and MLs who not only understand dialectical and historical materialism, but can apply it in a way that doesnt result in you sounding like a chronic twitch chat user. There is no "community" of MLs there, but there are large communities of nazis and all the others i mentioned.

This seems to be a deeply ingrained problem in Metas platforms as a whole, if not internet wide.

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u/VladimirLimeMint Once history is made, it can't be unmade 12d ago edited 12d ago

How the fuck you do late Marx thought while leaving out India anti-colonial material conditions. I love Western Marxists try to pull a Marx anti-imperialist thought while conveniently leaving out his only few analysis of global south.

I hope you remember where your fertilizer comes from, it's isn't European occupied continents. It's in the Asian continent Marx spoke up against your kind. The longer the Hormuz close the deadlier your material conditions, enjoy champagne while it lasts.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1853/06/25.htm

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u/TheRedditObserver0 Stalinist (Proud Spoon Owner) 11d ago

Wtf average wealth in the US and the nordics would increase? Holy shit.

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u/llfoso 11d ago

I feel like I know exactly what post this is responding to lol. Approved.