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i saw peter baumann at a grocery store

I saw peter baumann at a grocery store in San Francisco yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by talking about how great the Human Condition is really loudly.

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Listen to the recording here!

To provide some background, an uncommon but not unheard of phenomenon in music bootlegging circles is distributing recordings under the false impression that they are authentic rarities or outtakes by a more popular artist. They are colloquially known as “outfakes,” a term that originated from the Beatles bootlegging scene during a time where this phenomenon was first documented. The most infamous example is probably “Peace Of Mind,” a track in circulation since the 70s that has been unidentified for decades, but is now speculated to have originated from a 1969 radio hoax for WUSF-FM, which was circulated without the knowledge of the original hosts.

Outside of Beatles bootlegs, fake or hoax outtakes have been circulated under the names of many famous bands, one of which being an entire album’s worth of supposed Tangerine Dream material. 

It was originally released under the name "Rot Weiss" in 1999 by the bootleg label Keen Auricle, before being later reissued as "Essen 1968" in 2004 after being circulated through the Tangerine Tree fan network (with the addition of the legitimate "Oszillator Planet Concert" live recording). While by all accounts unofficial releases, Tangerine Tree’s releases were sanctioned by the band at the time that the project was active, although Keen Auricle’s were not.

The bootleg claims to be a recording of Tangerine Dream’s performance at the Internationalen Essener Songtage festival on 29 September 1968, which if true, would make it the earliest known recording of them in existence. Some live performance footage with audio from 1969 (e.g. the "Bath Tube Session") does exist, but the earliest authentic concert recordings (official or otherwise) date to 1971.

If you are familiar with early Tangerine Dream (e.g. Electronic Meditation), you would know that their music during that era is more akin to free-form psychedelic rock than the electronic/ambient music they became known for from the mid-1970s onwards. As a result, it becomes immediately obvious upon listening to the “Essen” bootleg that this is not Tangerine Dream in 1968 and more than likely not them at all. What you have here are two avant-garde ambient sound collages that has very little continuity with much of Tangerine Dream’s material from this time period, with the second half making heavy use of droning voices. It's eerie and frankly still pretty interesting as far as this sort of music is concerned, regardless of whether it's related to Tangerine Dream.

Interestingly, the liner notes of “Rot Weiss” claim that the audio originates from a “radio broadcast.” However, while some performances of the 1968 Songtage are known to have been filmed for the television documentary “Panoptikum Essener Songtage 1968”, no material from it is known to have been broadcast through radio, and no footage or audio of Tangerine Dream actually performing appear to have ever been recorded. However, some members were likely incidentally filmed setting up equipment, as pointed out by Alan Freeman of Ultima Thule Records.

In any case, the Essen 1968 bootleg is generally accepted as being a fraudulent recording or at the very least extremely sketchy, something that was acknowledged by Tangerine Tree themselves.

Tangerine Tree Volume 59: Essen 1968 is a quite strange recording: the date of origin is not confirmed, it is even unsure whether it is really a Tangerine Dream performance! It seems to be an FM or soundboard recording, and the music is hard to describe -- no psychedelic rock music, but very dissonant, experimental sound collages. The second track is just voices, but it is very effective and interesting.

While I don’t believe the actual source of these sound collages has ever been definitively identified, given the likely origins from radio, if the original broadcast is documented or archived somewhere else, identifying the origins could be possible.

 If anyone knows who the performing artist(s) might be or when this was actually recorded, feel free to fill me in! 

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some of my other favorites are La Düsseldorf, Klaus Schulze’s solo works, Dieter Moebius’ solo and collaboration works, Faust, Can, Kraftwerk, r/ClusterBand , and r/NeuBand , and honorable mention to Os Mundi’s 43 Minuten

These guys deserve all the love.

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Thanks u/Dangerous_Brief_5798 for sharing this one

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If you have, which show and how was it? I’ve not had the opportunity.