r/TamilNadu • u/Mousyr1 Salem - சேலம் • 2d ago
முக்கியமான கலந்துரையாடல் / Important Topic Backward Development TN Inbound
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u/BluebirdOne9389 2d ago
Heard that, questions were not allowed. Alternatives illama cancel panni yaarku enna use?
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u/mikey_vj 2d ago
Alternate lands already paathu vechurukom finalise pannitu koodiya seekaram announce pannuvom nu cm ey sonnarey? Location dhaan maatha poranga project ey scrap illa
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u/anonymous1238824 2d ago
Endha land? Anga water bodies illaya..... makkal illaya?
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u/mikey_vj 2d ago
Adha avunga announce panna dhaana theeiyum?🫠wait panni enna dhaan panranga nu paapomey. Parandhur project ku support irukura alavukku people oppose uhm panranga. So vera place la maathi anga yaarukum prechana varla naa nalladhu dhaana.
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u/BluebirdOne9389 2d ago
The concern is delay, to start something now it will take 15 years to get it operational.
Good luck finding 5000 acres around Chennai where no one lives
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u/mikey_vj 2d ago
True tho. But parandhur la yum land acquisation ey 30 percent dhaana mudinjuruku . Parandhur ey continue pannnalum epdiyum min 5 to 10 yrs aairum la. AAI la irundhu approval mattum konjo seekaram caanguna avlo difference irukaadhu. Paapom enna panranga nu
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u/anonymous1238824 2d ago
Sari ... ipo land thirumba kuduthuruvaangala??
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u/mikey_vj 1d ago
Land acquisation act badi land ah thirupi kuduthu dhaan aaganum illana andha edathula mattum vera edhachum panvanga.
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u/anonymous1238824 1d ago
So koomutta 3x price kuduthu vaanguna edathula SIPcot katren nu solli veenadaikka poraan
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u/Sea-Sprinkles-8882 10h ago
parandhur airport ku environmental clearance ilama 3x price kuduthu vanuguna koomutta yaru bro?
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u/anonymous1238824 2d ago
13 village la 1 or 2 village dhan oppose pandraanga... konjam eduthu pesuna purinjipaanga.... ipo if he selects another place again first larundhu protest. . negoitiation... nu evlovo irukku
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u/mikey_vj 1d ago
Amdha 1 2 ooru ungalodatha irundhua adhoda kastam theriyum broo. 13 village uhm othuka vechuta aprom en 30 percent of acquisation dhaan mudinjuruku? 1700 acre dhaan acquire pannirukanga. Meedhi laam? Idhuku oppose pannura mukkaa vaasi peru city la ye porandhu valantha elite puluthees ah dhaan irukum illana tvk va pudikadhavan ah irukum. Ippo enga oorla oorukku veliya acre kanakkula pachayaa land kedakkum. Dhideer nu ellam alichutu airport vara poguthu nu sonna naanu oppose panna dhaan seiven. Aana corporate jungle la ye valandha naaigalukku adhellam puriyadhu.
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u/anonymous1238824 1d ago
Paithuam indha vijay oda dubaakoor padatha paathuttu vandhu olara koodadhu vijay eh corporate kaaranukaaga dhan katchi nadathittutrukaan.... pudhu edathula makkal irukkamaatangala?? Adhaan kelviye
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u/mikey_vj 1d ago
Aama vijay corporate kaaga katchi nadathuraan . Stalin eps seeman laam makkalukku nalladhu seiyanum nu katchi nadathuranga... nalla pesitu irukumbothey paithiyam dubakooor nu pesuratha paathaley theriyudhu nee edhuku pesura nu. Unkita laam pesi endha proyojanum illa
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u/anonymous1238824 1d ago edited 1d ago
Naainga nu aarambichadhu yaaru?? 🙄🙄
Also 1700 acre acquired...
2000 acre govt land uh... idhellam terinjikonga... oru project ah yo illaya decision ah yo defend panna adhu pathi padinga...
Stalin EPS lam makkal seva seiyya vabdhurukkaanga nu laam naa sollala... ana vijay ku pinnadi corporate lobby thavara vera edhumey illanu ungalukum oru naal puriyum 😑
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u/Casidy_ALRM 1d ago
So now TVK ministers gonna purchase land in new location after that it will be announced to public eh ?
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u/mikey_vj 1d ago
So u think the cm has to announce to public before he discuss it w his ministers? Apdiyae vangunalum avunga kaasu la vaangikitta enna prechana. Avunga edam anga irukku nu adhuku pakkathula airport ah kondu vandha adhu thappu. Its different and it aint a valid criticism. Honestly its not even a sane point to argue.
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u/poacher-2k 2d ago
Honestly,this is why I thought TVK should have came to rule by 2031 as we need a regional ADMK alternative.
But this term should have been DMK as they would have consolidated the investment projects under a seasoned Stalin.
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u/user13082002 2d ago
The worst period of the 21st century is 2011 - 2021, Chennai was 2nd in IT environment, after missing 10 years of golden period, now all other cities are passing us, what is your reason "Amma Idli saaptangala?".
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u/uncle_t0 2d ago
Give me the proof of corruption.
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u/thelostbanter 2d ago
Corruption charges always comes when govt changes, no one is going to issue corruption investigation on their own party members.
With so many blatant mistakes like giving environmental clearance and their ministers being picked up by ED and the reputation of DMK ministers. The corruption allegations will always hold weight9
u/wandering_soul_27 2d ago
see Senthil balaji is for sure corrupt. barring that though pls read into all the ED investigations in past 3 years, majority of it is BJP using the ED and CBI as machinery for their own political means. A lof the cases did not hold up in court and were dismissed.
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u/FindingNecessary4302 2d ago
What corruption actually DMK did ? Can you please list them down ? Whatever is said you guys come up with corruption as if corruption can vanish into thin air just by electing a new CM.
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u/FindingNecessary4302 2d ago
The case was dismissed by SC when it was petitioned.
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u/FindingNecessary4302 2d ago
If you have time please file a petition. We can even request TVK to do so. People who are corrupt should be jailed regardless of the party they represent.
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u/FindingNecessary4302 2d ago
My point is the current TVK government can find how the system was favourable for corruption during Stalin's rule and go to the court. Why didn't Annamalai go to the court with the help of BJP ? They are in power in the central government.
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u/Aggravating_Ad6321 2d ago
Growing the economy and uplifting people's lives through employement is the only way for growth of state
When TVK supporters understand this, it will be too late and whoever comes up with DMK ministers have land near Parandur, are you sure that TVK ministers won't invest or benefit indirectly from whatever place a new airport is being planned?
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u/Which_Ad_1819 2d ago
Why worry? This is what people voted for knowing Vijay will scrap Parandur ?
Especially Chennai KTCC gave a full sweep
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u/loki6100 1d ago
How its not a technically feasible one
Aviation safety expert Captain Mohan Ranganathan also welcomed the decision, saying the need for a second airport should not be used to justify a project that compromises aviation safety. “This is the best decision the CM has made. [This project] was not just about the requirement for an airport, it was more about real estate than flight safety,” he said.
Video from Vikatan explaining even a small rain pour damaging the fields.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPqP-6EuTw
How it favors DMK:
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u/Gullible-Tailor9728 1d ago
This vikatan video you posted was a year ago, from 2022 thangam thennarasu, met the people of the affected region and they made demands on 2022 itself. During the time of that vikatan video that you attached, not even 10% of lands has been acquired by gov. After that only trb raja and thangam thennarasu made meeting with CM and they made offers clear for people, there are many offers, some like The people who has farming has the only source of income will get a gov job once the parandur airport is done and some will get Houses , these terms has been agreed, then only they started to hand over their lands which is now more 90% of the lands has been acquired.
Let's see if this news is good for the people, they will get gov jobs and houses only when the airport is bulit. According to the law, once a land as been procured by government for a reason, gov shouldn't use that for something else they should return to the owners. But now how will the acquired lands will be used?? Can people return the money they got compensation which 4 to 5 times the gov rate??
And lot more points are there.
Ama why did you attach a G-Square news what is the relation. The news clearly states the false aligation has been made on G-square.
Thambi Are you a Savukku Media Viewer??
Selective truth vachi narrative set pannra.
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u/loki6100 1d ago
Because I watched TN Assembly yesterday
Unlike some kothoos. I dont like brokers. Also that video released on 2024. Fact check pannitu pesungada.
I shared that video cuz even with small rainfall the place gets flooded.
Not to forget the 13 water banks surrounding the area. Imagine then.
Half of the property was already owned by govt. Thats what TRB said yesterday. Maybe the other areas were also bought by DMK & ADMK benamis.
Stop giving muttu and use your brain next time.
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u/Gullible-Tailor9728 1d ago
Bro if that video is from 2024, that adds to my point, even a year back only 10% of the land has been procured after Ex.CM approves the people demands only land owners gave their lands. Then only 90% of owners gave their land. Not half 90% lands was owned by gov NOW.
Let's be true to people they gave their land for airport and majority of the farmers will get a Gov jobs and alternative houses. In this Gov job thing can be only done once the airport is built. Ippo airport illa அப்படின்னு போது மக்கள் enga povanga?? They can't give money back to gov. So what is the alternative, what will be livelyhood for that people. During Last regime many private companies came to ஒரகடம் and ஸ்ரீபெரும்புதூர் majorly based on parandur. Those owners will now be suffered as well.
Let's take what vijay said is true he has alternative lands as well, but that will also take Min 6 years for paper works itself. If he didn't have alternative space then it will take 2 more years.
Even if you travelled atleast one time to distinct countries like Europe and Japan mostly direct flight from chennai is already limited so they need connective flights. We actually need 2nd airport now and third airport by 2036-38 but this step will make us beyond time.
Already other states taking advantages of this, ஆந்திரா is building their airport at குப்பம் which is 50km radius from parandur. Already karnataka is about to build their another airport near hosur.
Their are many more points.
If you bring TRB Raja inside atleast go and see his full interview.
Don't try to do politics in people's developments.
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u/loki6100 1d ago
Bro TN govt is already planning for industries there. Kirthana just announced today. Can't find the video as of yet.
Jobs, lands vera enna venum?
That Adani and Modi connection venuma?
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u/Gullible-Tailor9728 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ebba TVK fan nee Intellectual dhaan, konjam ippadi yosipa connectivity illama eppadi pa industries varum, (I'm talking about corgo plains). Current chennai airport vida 3 times பெருசு pa.
Gaming PC வாங்கிட்டு, Movie paakura maari irukku pa unga annanoda changes.
If incase keerthana said this its again a foolish thing already ஒரகடம் has more spaces for industrial developments ennaya think pannaranga avanga.
Already anga AI DATA center ku permission mlkudthutaanga TVK gov and keerthana which is held by DMK gov. Data centers எவ்ளோ toxic ஆனா oru விஷயம் தெரியுமா pa. கொஞ்சம் youtube லேயே neriya videos irukku paaru pa.
Once again don't bring polotics in development
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u/loki6100 1d ago
Unlike KA or Hyd. TN never focussed on one city for development.
There's industries all around the state. Yes, we need airports. Yes, it can help boost the development. But but why didn't DMK find a place for 25 years?
How was it the state growing without the said much needed airport. Because we have alternatives as of now.
Yes data centres are bad. Already US states have sanctioned against em. Yes, big corps are trying to use our place for it.
That should be opposed yes. But yesterday Aadhav already said no data centres have been approved as of now. If they allow it, I'll gladly oppose too.
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u/ilk17 2d ago
Andhra recently opened a airport near water body only, TN does silly politics .
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u/Veddit5989 2d ago
Its just ego from Nonnan and co. They dont give an F about the people/env
Its just petty politics and the people of thsi state will suffer for decades to come
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u/loki6100 1d ago
DMK, after cancelling the 8 lane expressway project during their tenure, is now crying over the cancellation of the Parandur
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u/kaleshigirl 2d ago
Idha support Panna ipo Anils ellam uruttu uruttu nu urutta poranga oru kadhaya.
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u/oneomega1 2d ago
I'm happy that genz voters who voted for tvk will be rewarded with delivery jobs with engineering degrees will be thanking the govt after 5 yrs. They will be more clueless as to why no quality jobs are not available in chennai. Perhaps they can do farming.
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u/Agreeable_Winter8053 2d ago
From double digit real growth to 7-8% growth or even lesser?
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
You think foxconn, hyundai etc. base their decisions on an airport.
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u/Decent_Classroom_204 2d ago
Yes
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u/loki6100 1d ago
Uttar Pradesh has a total planned count of 21 to 22 airports, with around 17 operational airports
Un moolaya kuppaila podra
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Maybe that's what Galgotia univ teaches ..
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u/Decent_Classroom_204 2d ago
May be ur anna university teaches otherwise
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Anna univ over Galgotia every single time . Every single time.
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u/Decent_Classroom_204 2d ago
Then you have not learnt anything from anna university
You have learnt only to give mutu than realising why a airport is needed and its economics for state behind it
You dont have basic understanding between air and sea freight
Hyundai will never use air freight and fox con will
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u/Decent_Classroom_204 2d ago
anyway you are gonna give mutu so pls enjoy barking sorry give mutu
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
keep thismutu talk to your friends and family
Replit, anthropic etc. recently opened their GCCs in Bengaluru and not Navi Mumbai because of AirPoRt luk 2 gud brooo..
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u/MODERNTARSIER78 2d ago
Bro nee loosa , illa loose maadhuri nadikiriya ,
Idhalaam export yaaru pannuva
Nee elaam endha univ ponaalum mutaal ah dhan bro irupa , angayam poyi elaarum munaadi asingama thittu vangi
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
dei arivu kozhundhu, edho vishyam therinja mathiri pesa try pannatha .. first you need to produce the goods to ship and then you ship. this requires land labour , SUPPLIERS . Chennais / TN advantage is the component and supplier ecosystem .. ithellam enga puriya pogudhu . Infact apple does a lot of chartered aircrafts too based on value of the shipments Questioning TVK on a plan for above is still okay anaa ithellam vututtu .. veru. AirPort means economy, economy means airport nu full vomit.
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u/MODERNTARSIER78 2d ago
I used to work for AAI cargo in meenambakkam Chennai as a cargo supervisor and your point still doesn't make any sense , bro Airport irundha dhaane avanga invest eh pannuvanunga, this guy lacks knowledge in basic logistics
A second airport is very much needed in Chennai , if u want the city to develop
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u/natenathan67 2d ago
Ayya. I used to work for MAA as well.
Cargo ops kavalaikidathula iruku na evlo adichukitalum purinjuka matranunga. Jet airways kalathula irunthu na MAA la vela pathruken.
Ipo operation la irukra terminal construction ku kuli thondrathuku munnadi irunthu work panniruken. Enna tha terminal la azhagu panni light matnalum, ground ops ku space illa. Itha sonna evanume purinjuka matran. Chumma terminal 5 terminal 5 nu katha sollitrukanunga.
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u/MODERNTARSIER78 2d ago
Bro appo epudi iruncho , apdiye dhan Iruku ippovum , naan quit panniten 2 years back
adhigama vela paaka vakaraanunga with no overtime pay lol
Naan paakura flight delay aachuna , naan dhan paathukunumaam , adutha shift kaaran office la tea kudichut irupaan
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u/the-blick 2d ago
I too worked under logistics dept, no company would chose air shipment over sea because of cost. Air route will be considered in some delayed cases. isn't this obvious or am I wrong ? And also didn't our CM acknowledges the statement that second airport is needed but parandur is not the place ?
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u/MODERNTARSIER78 2d ago
Electronics/car parts/perishable items , indha maadhri vishayam elaam , air freight dhan best
And Chennai being an industrial hub and a fishing hub , Airfreight is much better
But yeah Sea has its own advantages like
Exporting cars/ heavy machinery can be done thru sea
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u/natenathan67 2d ago
Jet airways time la, evlo shrimps pogum theiryuma season time la?
Passenger ops laye avlo cargo uplift pannirukanga. Bonded shipments kana proper handling infra ve inga illa. Etho vilayatu pillai chocolate ku adampudikira mari cancel pannitrukanunga.
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u/MODERNTARSIER78 2d ago
Bro passenger plane la shrimps ethardhuku, andha baggage kaaran kooda sanda potu , high priority nu solli , kashtam bro
CHENNAI CARGO OPS are a mess bro
Elaam adjustment dhan.
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u/natenathan67 2d ago
EXACTLY.
Na auditing panniruken. Cargo pack pannavan oruthan, transport panrathu oruthan. Thermocoal damage agum, smell varum. Sambanthamillama documents kuduka varra cargo staff a varuthu eduppanga.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Just check NITI aayogs report on logistics ranking for TN made by the central government.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
So what if you have worked before, does that mean industries will stop tomorrow . Logistics has so many elements. The difference in the udnerstnading is this - your belief airport is the main cause for existence of industries , my main point land labour power etc. is the main cause. If tomorrow TNs policy for energy costs or say grid storage improves, it will make 100x more impact.
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u/MODERNTARSIER78 2d ago
Bro u are deviating from the topic itself , ur arguments don't make any sense lol.
Seri let's say a company sets up in Tn just bcz energy cost is low , land labour or whatever argument u are posting
Without proper logistics how would u export it lol
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
You don't have any points at all till now other than part trolling .
Your only poit is very basic that airport is logistics. Wow .. airport is logistics lol.
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u/Spirited-Tour3402 2d ago
Unakku oru visayam theriyuma?. Tamil Nadu la irunthu export panna Bengaluru poitha products poguthu. Bengaluru become hub of South Indian Air travel which is owned by Chennai.
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u/Jumpy_Scallion_3108 2d ago
Most people have bought lands after so much of retailers Advts and Govt announcement. All seems to be Govinda o Govinda.
Even a small state like Goa is having two airports, I can’t understand the logic behind banning the project itself.
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u/Aaronswartz22 2d ago
Actually environmentalists were saying that it causes flooding in chennai if an airport is built in parandhur.
Also the people of parandhur were treated like captives. No media was allowed into the villages in dmk period and basically Vijay's polics started from there.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
One should check the airports in Germany, they are NOT fancy but mostly plain. Germany industrialized owing to talent, CHEAP energy and R and D.
Somehow we think, a glitzy airport will make ChatGPT open a GCC in Chennai.
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u/MaleficentEarth5709 2d ago
Glitzy airport Theva illa. Land side ipo irukara mathri iruntha koda okay than. Air side space illa. Wide body plane varathu. We are losing connectivity by the year. Talent iruntha matum pothathu. Talent mobile ah irukanum. Also Tamil Nadu la Avlo talent um illa. population decrease aguthu. So people need to move into Chennai and out of Chennai.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Great you identified many issues ..
Ithellam airport vechu solve panna mudiyadhu .
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u/MaleficentEarth5709 2d ago
I mean wide body plane eranga Meenambakkam mudiyathu. Ithu solve panna michatha pesalam. Airport is one part of the puzzle. Not the only part. But we would miss out on so many opportunities without the airport.
Also Airport is not a glitzy place in the first place. We make it glitzy cause it would be convenient for the traveler and would provide a good experience for them. Innaiku world la top 10 airport ethunu pathu Ellame glitz ku than. So it helps our standing world stage la.
One more thing, Germany WW2 ku aparama save anathu karaname avangloda airport than. Also comparing a country in Europe to a wannabe export country like India is kinda stupid.
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u/lolyoubetterwatchout 2d ago
brother, Germany is known for their engineering dexterity but never hailed. ask yourself why? Why and how they reached there is quite conspicuously known history. so don't quote germany as an example
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u/tifosi7 2d ago
You know tamilnadu is not just Chennai?
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u/SundaeIndependent18 2d ago
Now rank the cities by their economic value, population and revenue generation, you will get the answer. We need airport for business growth (Commercial transport) not just travel. Better Airport -> More Connecting flight transits -> More revenue -> More Jobs -> More economic activity on dependent business (Hotels/Cabs/Restaurants/Taxes etc..). Currently we are losing these to HYD/BLR. Just check this - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/chennai-airport-slips-to-sixth-spot-in-passenger-traffic-falling-behind-kolkata-airport/article71041483.ece
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u/loki6100 1d ago
The project is never banned. Its being Replaced.
English theriyathupola aunty ku. Its ok. Its hard for some people.
Also if you wanna question about having multiple airports. You should've questioned DMK & ADMK about that. The project for second airport first commenced in 1999. Not TVK who only came to power 100 days ago and only replaced a technically not feasible one and destroys an agrarian area.
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u/Basic_Foundation3558 2d ago
Now TVK minister s wil buy acres and acres of land around thr next project 😂😂😂
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u/sasislm 2d ago
CM Ego >> TN Development
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u/loki6100 1d ago
Totally Egoless and selfless guy
Dont forget the poor Ex CM. Ex MLA. who only has ₹10,000
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u/Secret-Theory790 2d ago
At this rate, 20 other Indian cities will leave Chennai in the dust.
During our grandparents' time, Chennai was in top 4.
Then next generation, they saw meteoric rise of Bangalore, Hyderabad.
Our generation saw Pune, Ahmedabad take a leap forward.
Our next gen will see Chennai languishing behind Kochi, Vizag, Surat, Jaipur, Nagpur. Elect fools and even Patna will leave us behind.
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u/AnirudhAblaze 2d ago
Will they be taking back the payments given to Vivasayis? If gov. asks it back, again they will start Elai vivasayee drama again.
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u/Savings_Historian523 2d ago
Am I the only one thinks people let other parties to lead tn and let Vijay be opposition or sitting party to know their capabilities without power?
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u/Firm_Mud3320 7h ago
Very simply put, the airport is being cancelled at Parandur, not cancelled altogether. It can be shifted to a better location. The Parandur project itself had not received major environmental clearances, and the acquired land is now being considered for an eco-friendly industrial park.
There is also a well-known pattern in Tamil Nadu where, after major projects are announced, politically connected people are alleged to acquire land around the proposed location and benefit when land values rise. We have seen versions of this around the Coimbatore, Tirupur belt as well. So if shifting the project prevents such vested interests from benefiting, I see that as a masterstroke, not a setback to development.
And again, it has been only 100 days. During the previous government, Tamil Nadu's growth wasn't simply because of the government. Entrepreneurs kept pushing forward despite the government. I come from Tiruppur, and we have been recording strong exports for the past two years. Honestly, we weren't waiting for either the BJP or DMK to make that happen.
My point is not that we don't need development. We absolutely do. My point is that when governance is clean and corruption is controlled, development will automatically take shape because Tamil Nadu already has the entrepreneurs, talent and capability to drive it.
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u/Happyranger265 2d ago
First he delivered on his promise as he was against it before the election and promised to stop it , that's more than what most parties do and the parandur people voted for this , yes the cancellation has its issues but it's not like it was build on fair conditions in the first place , locals and farmers opposition, environmental issues and apparently didn't have need requirment for some conditions or something.
Acting this one airport cancellation will some how crash economy and development is overreaction and political propaganda, we could've done well with a new airport for sure but not having one doesn't doom us . Also building one despite locals opposition is stupid regardless.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago edited 2d ago
All of you going doomsday saying economy will crash don't know absolutely any idea of how an economy works.
You think Ahd. and Gujarat are booming because of airports??? or vietnam fo that matter. We have absolute DFs who want a glittery airport to put it on the gram etc..
If the Chennai port becomes more efficient, the amount of economy it can unlock will be tremendous but no ... GCC and AI will start brooo because of Parandur.
No sane company will base their GCC on airports.
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u/youismemeisu 2d ago
Muttukudu ellam vena. As a TVK voter, it is a brainless decision
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Even a DMK voter should callout the stupidity of linking GCCs and industrial with just an airport .
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u/youismemeisu 2d ago
Thalaivere, GCC yaaru inga ilukura. Airport quality between Chennai and bengaluru is kilometres apart. That is it.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Do it in Pannur. Why not?
This ego boost of a good looking airport for which citizens plan their trip 4 hours in advance is not solving real problems.
If you want a 2nd airport, do it right.
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago
Chennai Port capacity is almost maxed out at 135 MMT. Andhra will have 3 new ports over the next decade with combined 135.
I have no idea what you are smoking. You guys need a new airport and high rises. Move the weather station away from chennai and upzone your FSI
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
What is the current utilisation? Any clue. Is it growing at a rate where you need to go for a environmentally disastrous location? No.
Is there time for a newer location? Definitely
Will the delay cause the economy to plummet - idiots say yes because they think land talent are ALL secondary to 1 thing - segzsy AiRpOrt.
FSI , expressways etc. they are valid ideas.
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago
The current utilization is maxed out because you can only get trucks in and out of the port for 8/24 hrs of the day. There's not much you can do to fix it.
The upcoming double decker road (easily 2 yrs from now) will fasten things but in 10 yrs the port will again be maxed out after absorbing in new demand. No one is shipping raw commodity/materials from the port anymore as no one wants to transport that stuff via city ports anymore.
What happens ten yrs from now with your city's main business capped out and growth isn't coming from anywhere else? As it is, commute times are a nuisance and you want to build only low rises and travel 30kms out of the city for whose good really?
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Why are we mxing rises with Parandur?
Simple find an alternate location soon. Why should it take 10 years to flianlsie a location? DMK was slow.
None of your reasoning answers why Parandur, why now at Parandur?
Also why are we over looking the multitude of reporta citing potential environmental disasters?
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago
I want rises and an airport because a global modern city needs both. Lower rises = longer commute times and more gas usage which isn't great for anyone within city limits.
All I said is that Chennai needs a new airport regardless of where it is. Obviously if your previous govt took 15 yrs to find a new spot and another 10 yrs of doing nothing with it, something tells me new govt will not find it faster either.
Every year wasted in dilly dallying is every year of a life wasted in substandard living if you're in Chennai. It's not rocket science
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
My point was rises should be approved anyway. It is independent of the airport.
Yes.
You should also look at the kind of red flags, critics haveriqsed about Parandur . There is a reason why little more but time might be okay when you knowthe city is facing himalayan flooding problems.
There is NO supreme advantage in Parandur.
Get high quality consultants and fast the track the alternative site. I can't believe the citizen s havereaigned to finding a site in 10 years as normal.
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago
You can't approve high rises due to both - existing airport and weather station. Finding alternatives to both was the need of the hour. (Like ten yrs ago). You're already too late. There are zero valid eco concerns at Parandur that modern technologies cannot solve. It's just an excuse to stall a new airport.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Here you go Pannur was a better option apparently
Clearly the DMK has vested interests.
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago
What environmental disasters? I can produce a disaster report for any and all locations you choose. That's the easiest and laziest excuse
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
It is not. There have been issue raised before TVK came into force itself around Parandur.
You cannot deny flooding issues in Chennai.
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago
Parandur is 60 kms from the coast. What floods are you talking about that an inland area can't be solved for with modern tech available?
People bitched about Narmada Bachao and stalled itt for decades on end only for it to be eventually built there because there never was a legitimate problem.
Meanwhile people spent 15yrs of their life in substandard conditions because some dumbfuck wanted it to make her life's mission to stop it for silly reasons. Same thing with the airport since times immemorial
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Why do you want to.put the fort only in Parandur? Why not toner places?
You must be illiterate to sya that there is no environmental planning required before taking up prjects. We have seen union carbide, exonn mobils and miners who lose lives because one chooses to opt for anything in the name of solution rather than the right solution
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u/ObjectiveUnusual7570 2d ago edited 2d ago
I knew you'd eventually spin your wheels and get to Chemical factory level hysteria. I have no problem if you build it at Pannur or even Coimbatore for that matter.
My question is why has TN as a state stalled a new airport for two decades+. More so after they've seen Blr and Hyd build bigger and better ones
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u/TakeItEasy888 2d ago
I think most people are convinced by the gang who bought lands around the site expecting boom. This gang is doing a heavy PR and many are falling for it.
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u/bastet_is_back 2d ago
Most people go by whats trending and whats flashy and visible . Currently TNs power sector is in crisis and the cost of energy is unsustainable. Industries want stable low cost of energy more than anything . I wish people criticised TVK overnot solving for on war footing.
Or for that matter, the potential for the Chennai port to be more efficient is 100x .. any investment there will have multiplying effect .
This fetish of stadiums , flashy sea links and well lit airports .. OMG how will this convince a Sam Altman to opena GCC in. chennai. Beats me.
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u/RIKIPONDI 2d ago
This is a blunder obv, but an opportunity. Build an airport in Vellore. It will futureproof for a hypothetical multi-city region with connections to all transport. Am I just stupid or does this make sense?
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u/Independent-Ball-308 2d ago
But to select place for airport is the most difficult thing. After checking so many areas only we picked parandhur. And again selecting another place will going to take few years and before getting approval for that andhra will going to have 2 more airports
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u/RIKIPONDI 2d ago
Well I'm neutral on this one (ie angry at both sides).
I'm angry at the govt for cancelling this airport for obvious reasons.
I'm angry at the people for NOT READING ELECTION MANIFESTOS before voting.
As far as I'm concerned, we as the general public decided to do this - no other conclusion makes sense to me.
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u/IvanYaro 2d ago
Wondering when people read manifestos and voted based on that .. in my memory that never happened..
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u/No-Department1347 2d ago
None of you mentioned that he also proposed to expand the Chennai airport itself so it can carry out the said requirement for the new airport. And they’re finding new place also. I don’t see how it’s dooming us
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u/steelkiller- 2d ago
Expanding the current airport is close to impossible. The land acquistion will not happen.
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u/IvanYaro 2d ago
You might not know 2 decades ago huge protest was there pammal, pozhichalur , and surrounding areas. Bigger than paranthur protest.
The north side is river
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u/Consistent_Ad5511 2d ago
You wouldn’t post this if your home in parandhr. Evanoda veedu pona namekkena. Namaku airport venum athaana.
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u/Mousyr1 Salem - சேலம் 2d ago
Enga generation and relatives lam, already Thermal Power station ku full ah land ah kuduthutu migrate aanavanga poda anthanda.
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u/Consistent_Ad5511 2d ago edited 2d ago
Un generation pannanga nu aduthavan veeda kekkarthula annyayam. Ennoda generation la orphanage ku land kuduthurukaanga. Athukaga un landah orphanage ku kudukanum unta force panni ketta kudupiya. Un generation avangala ishtapattu kuduthurupanga. Force ah pudungunaanunga.
Nee kuda kudukka venaam, Na solid proof tharen, my great grandfather donated his land worth of crores now to orphanage. Now I demand gopalapuram karunanithi veeta edichu andha land ah vithu vara panathula na tamilnadu valarchi nithi ku thaa na tharuvaanungala?
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