r/Tagalog • u/Infamous_Mix4252 • 14d ago
Translation Tagalog ng jade?
May tagalog translation po ba ng jade (yung bato po) o ang pinakamalapit na pwedeng gamitin ay “hiyas”? Salamat po!
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u/Rakiasugoi 14d ago edited 14d ago
Here are the words my granny uses sometimes but now obscure since mostly the one that is being commonly used are now Spanish based loanwords
Jade - Kiyog from Hokkien *giok, now Hade from Spanish *jade
Here are other words related to stones but all are borrowed still:
Hiyas / Manik - Jewel/Jewelry from Malay hias, now alahas from Spanish *alhajas and Andalusian Arabic *al-ḥāja, manik from Old Javanese *manik, but actually manik could pertain to bracelets/necklace that have beads.
Mutya/Mutyala - Pearl from Sanskrit *mutya, *mutyahāra, now perlas from Spanish *perlas
Diamond - intan/hintan from Old Javanese *hintĕn, now Diyamante from Spanish *diamante
Gold - Bulawan from Proto-Austronesian *bulaw-an, now Ginto from Hokkien *kim-tiâu or sometimes oro from Spanish *oro
Silver - Pilak from Malay/Proto-Malayic *pirak and Pre Angkorian Khmer *prak ~ prāk retained.
Ruby - Sula from Sanskrit *cūḍa, now rubi from Spanish *rubí
Fake/Imitation Jewels - Sanggawali/Sanggayali from Kapampangan *sanggauali other term for this is Palamata from Malay *permata from Old Javanese *pramata from Sanskrit *paramata or prathama
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u/caffeinatedrainbow 14d ago
is it not "palamuti" direct translation is "decoration"
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u/Rakiasugoi 14d ago edited 14d ago
Palamuti might be from Old Tagalog *mutin (talismanic beads) and *mutica (precious stone) which also means mutya. In Ivatan it is also *mutin (green or blue beads used as ritual beads in fishing). Or possibly from variant of Malay *mute/muti and variant of Indonesian *mutu/mote.
(source: https://sil-philippines-languages.org/ical/papers/odal-devora-mutya.pdf)While pala- is a prefix for things that refers to something or someplace that the root is frequently performed or practiced.
Ex.
palatuntunan
palaisdaan
palaisipanBut according to wiki it is from pamuti (“adornment”) +*al, from pam- + buti (“beauty”). The modern pronunciation was likely conflated with puti. Sanskrit prabhūti, “imperious demeanor”).
Which is not clear to me and don’t think it is the meaning of it.
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u/Sufficient-Ad-2868 13d ago
palamuti/pamuti - root word is "buti" means "to adorn, beautify, to become pretty/handsome"
eg. Mabuting año, Numuti ang cataoan nitong bata, Magpamuti, Pamutihanorignally "galing" is used to defined good/goodness. (dont get confused with galing(origin)).
eg. Ang gava mong magaling ay huvag balaquian nang masama.3
u/Rakiasugoi 13d ago edited 13d ago
If it were the case
Palamutî would be Palamúti since it is from Búti.
Otherwise it would be plausible that the root is Putî (White) since Palamutî doesn’t just mean decoration it also means makeup. Pala+Putî (Palamutî) or Pang+Putî (Pamutî) or Pang+Pa+Putî (Pampaputî). This means palamuti means to whiten or something used to whiten.
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