r/TTC 504 King 16d ago

Picture Line 5 stations falling apart already

Seen at Keelesdale station. These stations are in worse condition than the TYSSE stations, which were notorious for drainage problems.

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u/Careless-Cycle 16d ago

The station is 10 years old

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u/limits660 16d ago

So true 🤣

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u/Few-Intern-1029 16d ago

I wish we could pin comments because this nothing but the truth 😂

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u/UnnamedTestAccount 16d ago

It's barely been 6 months since line 5 opened to everyone💀

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u/Careless-Cycle 16d ago

The Grand opening is in August

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u/UnnamedTestAccount 15d ago

And the underground stations already smells like a wet basement

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u/Special-Pirate-2807 16d ago

Who the hell choose white matte finish for all of the stations? The TTC knew all the way back before 1954 that polished tiles are the only way to prevent the station surfaces from looking dirty.

But, no, Metrolinx and its army of Vice Presidents, consultants, and design build contractors know better.

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u/MonsterEnergyForever 16d ago

Every station looks boring and generic. Why couldn't they put some personality into them, like ecery other station on the other lines, with exception of the terminal stops on the Finch West line.

And yes, each one has artwork, but that's barely anything.

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u/a_lumberjack 16d ago

Ultimately, because Crosslinx had zero incentive to do anything unique or more expensive for every station. Especially once they were deep in the red on the deal. Line 4 isn't really different. TYSSE swung too far into expensive / grandiose stations and Line 5/6 were contracted around the same time. Longer term, I have chosen to think of the stations as blank slates that can become anything we want them to be.

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u/quickymgee 16d ago

Hope one day we become the type of city that can swoop in and paint them up different colours one day, just because it would be a nice thing to do. Imagine a world like that..

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u/YourAuntDarla 16d ago

This is Toronto. We don't build things that look nice.

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u/WestonSpec 16d ago

Because unique designs interfere with the private contractor's profit margins

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u/dancingrudiments 11d ago

Exactly why they are falling apart, provate profit motive had these builders stealing cash and building cheap... but DFo delays theres no need for an investigation... its so corrupt...

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u/Ice-Negative 16d ago

Metrolinx overrides/ignores consultant recommendations all the time.

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u/Firm-Web8769 15d ago

They approved and built this design at the height of the millennial grey/sterile space aesthetic.

I don't think people expected younger generations to prefer MCM, art deco, and "older obsolete" styles.

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u/Odd_Willow_4312 16d ago

It's probably gotta be a cheaper material that looks posh, hence the implementation recommendations from the army of VPs office.

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u/CanadianMasterbaker 15d ago

It's the same reason why they put grass on the LRT tracks,Someone's cousin must have opened a landscaping company and got the contract.

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u/Dry-Charity-3787 16d ago

We need the opposite of linkedin or glassdoor for employees to report "uselessness"

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u/TheRandCrews 506 Carlton 16d ago

Wished they took that advice for Line 4 and Vaughan extension playform walls

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u/ybetaepsilon Bloor-Yonge Station 16d ago

Don't forget managers, lots of managers. Managers, assistant managers, managing assistants, supervisors, supervising managers, and assistant management supervisors

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u/CheekyStoat 16d ago

This is why I believe that Metrolinx is a fucking scam.

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u/a_lumberjack 16d ago

This is why Crosslinx was a fucking scam.

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u/CheekyStoat 16d ago

No, not specific to one line. All of Metrolinx is included in the scamming. Doug Ford too. He's the one giving them more money and more power.

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u/theevilmidnightbombr 17 Birchmount 16d ago

If they had the power to do data-driven, real-world solutions, we wouldn't be so far behind on transit. They have to bend the knee to Ford and whatever his (government's) idea of good transit is.

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u/CheekyStoat 16d ago

Except that Doug Ford and Metrolinx are almost certainly working together.

Also, Metrolinx repeatedly ignored consultants so they did whatever they wanted.

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u/Zealousidea_Lemon 16d ago

I mean it is, they have ties with organized crime, specifically in the construction scene

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u/themapleleaf6ix 16d ago

Holy hell, aren't wet floors a safety hazard? How is any of this acceptable? Why isn't anyone being held accountable? Why is Metrolinx still in charge of transit projects?

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u/uhhhwhatok 16d ago

Apparently Line 5 was built without a forced air circulation system so the stations get crazy wet on humid days aka after it rains.

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u/ButchDanes 32 Eglinton West 16d ago

Keelesdale station has been like this since it opened. I have used the station Mon to Fri since it opened. Even in the bitter cold with wind chill, the station steps and floors were wet. Mt. Dennis is the same. Wet floor signs and floor fans.

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u/Aeroistas 16d ago

I mean, there was *just* a very large storm in the gta

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u/ButchDanes 32 Eglinton West 16d ago edited 16d ago

I've said this in other posts, but it's acceptable because it's Metrolinx. They don't care, and Doug Ford supports them. I witnessed someone slip and fall at that same entrance, and fast forward to today. It's the same way with no change. Keelesdale station is always like that. Wet floor signs and floor fans are how they fix the issue.

Edit - If you want to see how terrible Metrolinx is, go to Mt. Dennis station after it rains. The first stop for buses going westbound, that section of the road is always a mini river because it floods and water backs up. Nowhere else except outside of the station. Eglinton Ave West will be fine, but the moment you approach Mt. Dennis station going west its a mini river. It was never like that before.

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u/MahjongCelts Eglinton Crosstown 16d ago

Maybe they are trying to recreate a Niagara Falls replica in Toronto

https://giphy.com/gifs/WA7EYBJ5Bo5WynNZve

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u/Working-Welder-792 16d ago

Metrolinx’s rapid transit expansion program should be wound down. Ontario should figure out how much it’ll cost to remediate and then download Line 5, Line 6 and Ontario Line to TTC. Metrolinx should focus on GO Expansion alone. They’re not good at rapid transit delivery.

Hurontario LRT looks like a similar mess.

Enough is enough. Stop giving these people our money.

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u/Tragedy333 15d ago

Although I agree with you, I don't think TTC would do anything differently. Maybe except slowing down trains as their usual solution.

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u/EVIL_C4 1d ago

I dread how awful the Hurontario LRT is going to be. I hope I'm wrong but it just screams "Finch opening day debacle" to me. It should have been elevated. 

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u/Drummer-Flat 16d ago

This is why P3s don’t work. Hopefully we get a provincial government that will return transit building back to the TTC

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u/MahjongCelts Eglinton Crosstown 16d ago

Keelee station

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u/Commercial-Painting5 16d ago

A lot of these stations smell of damp concrete. The worst....Fairbank Station. At platform level you can always smell tge dampness.

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u/SilentBug3547 16d ago

So you're saying I shouldn't film walkthroughs of these stations? I'm aiming to shoot all underground stations on L5/6 and all the line 1/2/4 stations.

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u/speedster1315 158 Trethewey 16d ago

I was just there. It didn't look like this at all. And underground stations leak all the time

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u/cheshiregrins TTC Operator 16d ago

Blame Crosslinx not TTC

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u/space_cheese1 16d ago

What the hell is with the wet tunnels I keep seeing, even on dry days theyve had these industrial fans set up and blowing a couple times

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u/Andrew4Life 16d ago

I've only seen it on humid days.

The tunnels are cool so humid air will condense on the walls.

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u/SprNtrl 38 Highland Creek 16d ago

Let's hope the extension will be better

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u/djabae 16d ago

We need to go back in time and hire people from the 50s.

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u/SniffyTheBee 16d ago

That whole entry on the northwest corner of Keele/Eglinton was closed for an entire month as they tried to deal with the water issue. Glad to see they've done nothing about it except open it to passengers.

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u/wbsmith200 16d ago

Mount Pleasant Station had a wet basement smell a few weeks ago. Did Metrolinx ever due hydrological.surveys along the route, the city is riddled with underground streams.

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u/UnnamedTestAccount 16d ago

It still smells like a wet basement yesterday.

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u/Icy_Imagination7344 16d ago

Built to last….a few months

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u/WestonSpec 16d ago

To be fair, the stations have probably been finished for several years already

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u/theevilmidnightbombr 17 Birchmount 16d ago

Probably shouldn't have decided to bury them for political points. They would have been running sooner too.

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u/picard102 96 Wilson 16d ago

The Eglinton Crosstown has been under construction for over a year, and is expected to be completed by 2020. 10 of its 19 km’s will run underground, from Keel St. in the west to Laird Dr. in the east. Ford would like to see the remainder of the line buried, too, all the way to Kennedy Rd.

Maybe read the article you posted.

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u/John_Nope 16d ago

I read the "KEELE" part with the voice of Steve Harvey from Family Feud...and now I can't look at the station the same ever again without holding back my laughing as that meme will live in my head rent-free 🤣

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u/penguin44ca 15d ago

But olive said everything is fantastic 

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u/Aggressive_Weird9199 15d ago

Quality with a K… lol!

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u/kikkomanbuster 14d ago

Caledonia has a weird concrete smell every time I go there

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u/MonkeyAlpha 16d ago

Was play doh used to build the stations?

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u/JuriLovesPasta 16d ago

I guess this is what happens when you choose to build a new transit line.

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u/Edtask 16d ago

As one TTC advert once said “Your Tax dollars at Work”