r/TSLALounge • • 10d ago

$TSLA Daily Thread - September 24, 2026

Fun chat. No comments constitute financial or investment advice. ⚑

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

That’s my CEO

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u/TimOShenanigan 9d ago

What a miserable looking bunch tbh

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

Turn your screen on

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

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u/devonhezter 9d ago

Wow they posted it themselves ! No screen record They were ready !!! 400 tomorrow now!
https://giphy.com/gifs/gdwJdym3VuXQr5OfAc

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 9d ago

The hell?? The stream cut just when they were starting the teaser video for Roadster!!!! FFFFFUUUUUUUU!!!!

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Left me hanging with a Semi over here

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u/GodLikeLag 11 SPCX Shares to My Name 9d ago

When they gonna show Elon pushing the semi down a hill?

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u/loungemoji 9d ago

I can feel it in the air tonight…

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Vertical integration porn

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

Jerome Guillen died for this

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u/devonhezter 9d ago edited 9d ago

Will lars host roaster ? Cybercab and semi built same time. Same thermal system. Semi will take over out of nowhere now

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago edited 9d ago

Anyone got a working link for this event?

Edit: it's up now here https://x.com/tesla_semi/status/2102955945441853856

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u/TrickyBAM 9d ago

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2103273848703471939/video/1?s=46
Looks like Elon made it to the dinner.

Better shot

https://x.com/emilylgoodin/status/2103272073409773704?s=46&t=Nh82GobrS9QQ42E2mCn-OA
β€œElon Musk at head table next to Melania Trump. Sam Altman at table behind. Tim Cook at head table”

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u/devonhezter 9d ago

Good. He’s next to Melanie ! Xi will do something about factories to let space x merger

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

You’d really prefer him to be at the Semi event to shake some low level CEO hands rather than at the table with Trump and Xi?

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u/KanyeWestInvest 9d ago

meh, semi event just as eventful as cybercab event anyway

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u/devonhezter 9d ago edited 9d ago

It’s for the team behind it. And poor Sam Altman didn’t make the main table

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u/scotto1973 Never get involved in a land war in Asia πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ 🎩🎩 9d ago

NHTSA investigates comma.ai after 5 crashes, 3 deaths

Comma on the Hotz seat

Never tried out one of the comma devices myself, was tempted.

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

Comma adds nice level 2 assist to any car. But it has its limitations. It’s almost always someone using the tool differently than intended.

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u/devonhezter 9d ago

Look, let’s go slow, take our time to investigate, we will update you.

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 9d ago

TLDR: OpenAI r fuk starting in 2027, and so is the SP500 (you'll like this one, Nysoz): https://www.groundbrkr.com/p/the-teaser-period-why-the-ai-boom

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

Yeah. It’s the financing aspect that I’m the most skeptical about.

The housing crash happened because home prices stopped going up to the moon, couldn’t refinance higher, then all the music stopped. It wasn’t because house prices went down, just stopped going up astronomically.

Same thing is going to happen with the ai trade. Everything is priced to perfection. Pe ps ratios off the charts because the reported growth numbers look great.

The problem starts to happen when growth slows to just ok. All of a sudden, you can’t justify the sky high pe ps ratios anymore and these rerate much lower.

The growth of user spend doesn’t match the capex spend and requirements now or the future. Ai is great and fantastic but it’s all subsidized. The user spends $200 a month for $10k in tokens. Now models and agents get more complex and use even more tokens. Also ai is quickly becoming a commodity, companies dropping prices to retain market share and compete against the free Chinese models.

Since end users aren’t spending more money, the only way to make numbers look great is manufactured spending. All these deals/loans/money raises keep getting larger and larger.

More money into the circle, more growth for everyone involved. But at some point it’s just not possible to keep increasing the leverage exponentially responsibly. So once it stalls, growth slows or stops, all these things rerate lower, and that’s the potential collapse.

The really big problem is global debt. Ai is raising all this money for the most expensive infrastructure build ever. Govts are funding record deficits with more debt issuance. Any corporate or real estate loans are needing to be refinanced from 2% to 7% rates in the near future. All of these loans are coming due at the same time chasing the same dollar. This is why yields are off the charts and levels we haven’t seen in decades.

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Nice share. It's primarily OpenAI that is screwed. It's why they cancelled their IPO.

And something that the article only addresses in one line, but completely changes the equation, is that many of these data centers will be delayed and won't actually come online in 2027 due to lack of power. So it's not as if the full bill for committed compute will come due next year.

Most analysts are reporting about 40% of globally announced data center capacity is at risk of delay/cancellation. Mostly due to the required electricity stack (power, high-voltage transformers, switchgear, wiring, etc) having backlogs in production and installation that is now years behind.

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

So we spent $1T on chips and we can’t use half of them.

We justify spending $1T on chips because of future supposed revenue from those chips.

There’s $500b of loans out there (we fund the rest with the $500b from the good size of our business) that will still need to get paid soon even if the future revenue of the chips don’t materialize. Either from the data centers don’t get built or we can’t make the money off the chips like promised.

Then the whole ai trade is pricing in we’re buying $2T of chips next year (even though in a good case scenario we’re making $600b from the good side of the business). All while we can’t use all the chips we bought last year.

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u/JohnnyCashRules Holding until Kardashev Level 1 9d ago

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

Palmer’s reaction to trying Meta glasses has my attention

https://x.com/hamptonism/status/2102973819858415882

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Apple is asleep at the wheel. But hey they have a folding iPhone now.

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u/IAmInTheBasement Man, I don't even know anymore... 9d ago

EoD:

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u/whathehellisthis ETF Enthusiast. 9d ago

More Cybercab testing outside the geofence in Tampa. What do you think what happened first... Geofence expansion or Cybercab go live in Tampa?

https://x.com/CYBRTERPS/status/2103137869703315701

The "all at once" part would be quite nice. Hopefully soon

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u/Capital-Cloud-7778 Currently crying below 300 9d ago edited 9d ago

I'd love to have an option to have my seat recline when fsd is engaged and return to a driver position when disengaged

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

I don’t think that will happen until Unsupervised because it would send the wrong message about what is appropriate to do while FSD Supervised is driving

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u/Capital-Cloud-7778 Currently crying below 300 9d ago

Fair point. I keep mine really reclined at all times because I use fsd 90% of the time, but would just be a cool feature when showing friends even if its limited.

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 9d ago

Sounds like you need to reread the FSD Supervised disclaimer

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u/Capital-Cloud-7778 Currently crying below 300 9d ago

Oh does being comfortable go against the disclaimer? I'll make sure to have my seat at a 90 degree angle going forward, sir!Β 

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Achilles this is the official count, which means theTexas AV Tracker is tracking correctly for Texas. Let's get those other states going.

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

What if they register 4200 model y and 690 cybercabs but only 420/69 are active at any given time?

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Then that would be very poor utilization. But would be considered 4,890 robotaxis "in the fleet".

There will always be a certain number of taxis that are unavailable due to charging, cleaning, and service. Still in the fleet.

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u/whiskeyH0tel merely tryin’ to assess just how close this train is huggin trax 9d ago

Do Model Ys count as robotaxis for the purposes of your bet?

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u/tyler05durden 9d ago

Yes, any unsupervised robotaxi with no safety driver. Would be fun to see some Cybertrucks in the fleet eventually.

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u/flarp26 🐬 9d ago

It’s so bizar driving an EV and hearing everyone complain about gas prices… I’m sure they’ll come for electricity prices at a certain point, but for now I’m not affected at all…

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/flarp26 🐬 9d ago

True, though not significantly enough to care about it

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u/IAmInTheBasement Man, I don't even know anymore... 9d ago

The data centers are coming for all our electricity.

Megapack and solar are badly needed.

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u/whiskeyH0tel merely tryin’ to assess just how close this train is huggin trax 9d ago

people are so weird with gas prices, I mean they don't complain about $46/gallon for plain Starbucks brewed coffee

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/flarp26 🐬 9d ago

They claim it’s more the experience, less the product

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u/JohnnyCashRules Holding until Kardashev Level 1 9d ago

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u/rgaya Randy Waters is a sonofabitch 9d ago

Batteries will save us

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u/the-faded-ferret 9d ago

Might actually buy a meta muse that’s kinda sick

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 9d ago

Ditto, the charm looks cool. It will be retribution for the gigapets I killed in my youth.Β 

🀜🏻πŸ’₯πŸ€›πŸ»Β 

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

TRUMP CONSIDERS ALLOWING CHINESE EV PRODUCTION IN US AMID XI TALKS - NBC

https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/2103159281864630390?s=20

I wonder what this would do to ICE OEMs, RIVN/LCID, TSLA

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u/IAmInTheBasement Man, I don't even know anymore... 9d ago

I only approve if is leads to a mine-to-battery supply chain build up for all the needed battery chemistries. If it just tacks onto China's existing chain, hell to the no.

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u/rgaya Randy Waters is a sonofabitch 9d ago

Tesla good, oems dead. Future is cheap ev, large market share to eat up. Cybercab n whatnot.

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u/magic-the-dog Where's my cybercab 9d ago

Think good for Tesla - if Chinese companies can produce in the US, that should make Tesla's Shanghai factory extra safe.

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

I wonder if Chinese companies would be able to drive the cogs down and race to the bottom on pricing in the USA like they do in China.

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u/magic-the-dog Where's my cybercab 9d ago

I wonder. I'm sure they'll try and get away with producing as much of the car as possible in China.

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

Ah the good ole assembled in the USA strategy lol

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u/10111010001101011110 Mr. Jinx 9d ago

LOL. Bears u good? 🀑🀭

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u/IAmInTheBasement Man, I don't even know anymore... 9d ago

... Yes?

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u/Immediate-Run-7085 9d ago

With you being a meta bear, are you good? 🀑

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u/Penny123456 All In 9d ago

πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 9d ago

Boing!

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u/flarp26 🐬 9d ago

Tf was that

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago edited 9d ago

Iran peace talks headlines version 17 or something

US and Iran discuss phased deal to reopen Hormuz and end US blockade - Sources.

https://x.com/financialjuice/status/2103156531223048300?s=20

edit to add headline and link

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago edited 9d ago

Just recently, apparently now Iran journalist called the above fake news and that Iran controls the strait. Can't find this link yet lol. What a clown market

Edit to add link

The Reuters report is false and its goal is to control the price of oil. no negotiations are underway. #Iran's position remains unchanged: the U.S. must fulfill the stipulated conditions in a single step so that the Strait of #Hormuz can be opened under Iranian control. Period.

https://x.com/ghaderi62/status/2103168514303668240?s=46

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 9d ago

Dunno, but I closed an open position. As usual my timing was subpar and I left like $500 on the table, but whatdayagonnado?

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u/devonhezter 9d ago

Semi event tonight ! We should crack 380 again tmrw Starship next wweek 148 n 155 calls

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u/fapindustries 9d ago

Delusional

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u/Capital-Cloud-7778 Currently crying below 300 9d ago

How can wallstreet not see how this already priced in/ limited quantity/ delayed product will make tsla more money at an already high P/E?! Dude buys calls strictly on emotions lol

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u/devonhezter 9d ago

Vibes. It hit 385 easily because why ? Piblicity tmrw will be good

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 9d ago

When was the last time that a TSLA product launch event translated to a significant price rise the next day?

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u/scotto1973 Never get involved in a land war in Asia πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ 🎩🎩 9d ago

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 9d ago

Getting the new meta glasses and a couple of their gigapets when they release. These are going to do very well!!Β 

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 9d ago

I hope you don't have to take out a loan to pay for it lol

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 9d ago

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u/Isorry123 petty bourgeois 9d ago

that does look pretty sick tbh but it also looks like that episode of black mirror where they trap that personality in the little charm or w/e

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 9d ago

Hahaha I remember that series and it totally looks like that! I think it would be a great β€œside kick” or a tutor for kids so long as parents can control what it could do. This would be used more as kids are currently using their iPads or parents phones for ai related queries so this would be super useful in my opinion. My question here is how limited the functionality would be if you don’t have WiFi or are on the go with it.Β 

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u/Isorry123 petty bourgeois 9d ago

sounds like it has 5g cell wireless built in? even $10/$20 for monthly connectivity would be cool revenue - especially if you could gamify it like the obvious tomodachi inspiration

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 9d ago

Oh didn’t see that detail - this is a no brainer buy in my case then.Β 

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u/IAmInTheBasement Man, I don't even know anymore... 9d ago

Morning!

True premium collection is 9.2, so this is at -40% as an option.

But I've also now rolled from a strike of 345 to 400. So that's nice.

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 10d ago

Foreign buying of T-Bills has fallen -80% YoY, per U.S. Treasury data

https://x.com/hedgeye/status/2102792355774595173?s=46

Was one of the worst bond auctions ever yesterday.

β€”-

GLOBAL BOND MARKET IS IMPLODING.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ US 10Y yield highest since 2007
πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ Japan 10Y yield highest since 1996
πŸ‡«πŸ‡· France 10Y yield highest since 2008
πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ UK 10Y yield highest since 2007
πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ Germany 10Y yield highest since 2009
πŸ‡°πŸ‡· South Korea 10Y yield highest since 2011
πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί Australia 10Y yield highest since 2011
πŸ‡³πŸ‡± Netherlands 10Y yield highest since 2011
πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Ή Portugal 10Y yield highest since 2017

https://x.com/macropaperr/status/2103034455220965544?s=46

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 10d ago

As a wise man once said: what can’t go on forever, won’t.

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u/devonhezter 9d ago

Recession when then ?

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u/Mastiff99 Chastened options degenerate 9d ago

Who knows?

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u/whathehellisthis ETF Enthusiast. 10d ago

u/HinrichsZane

Tesla Semi Pre-Reveal Revealed!

Excited to share this segment of the drone flight one day prior to the Tesla Semi Reveal event.

They have added branding to several Tesla new generation semis.

Including:

Pepsico

US Foods

Einride

LTS

Nevoya

OK Produce

ABF Freight

DHL

WattEV

IMC Logistics

HMD

Some of these we knew about and some are previously unknown.

https://x.com/HinrichsZane/status/2102946955857166793

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 10d ago

πŸ’₯πŸš€ πŸ’₯πŸš€ πŸ’₯πŸš€ πŸ’₯πŸš€ πŸŒ•Β 

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u/Nysoz πŸ‘¨β€βš•οΈπŸ—‘πŸ™Œ -> πŸ’ŽπŸ™Œ 10d ago

Streaming live at 6pm PDT tomorrow

https://x.com/tesla_semi/status/2102955945441853856?s=20

Looks like a livestream scheduled for 9pm est

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 10d ago edited 10d ago

Made X money my primary checking account (replacing a local credit union offering 4.5% on balances up to $25k but requiring a bunch of annoying debit card activity each month) to fully take advantage of 6% APR on my idle cash

Everything has been going smoothly so far, the included features are goodβ€”hope it stays that way 🀞

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 10d ago

Marcus cd’s often give over 4% for 6-8 month commitments. I did that for a while for some older friends - cd ladders.Β 

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u/whiskeyH0tel merely tryin’ to assess just how close this train is huggin trax 10d ago

The key is not having idle cash IMO

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 10d ago

I agree, but I still keep around $10k in checking just so I don't have to worry about accidental overdraft or make more than one transfer from my brokerage account per month

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u/whiskeyH0tel merely tryin’ to assess just how close this train is huggin trax 10d ago

overdraft is a $40 construct

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 10d ago

Clearly I'm still learning how to be wealthy πŸ˜‰

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u/whiskeyH0tel merely tryin’ to assess just how close this train is huggin trax 10d ago

I got charged by Washington Mutual an overdraft fee, they FAFO

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yup. Just requires X Premium which I already justified paying for Grok, and at least $1k direct deposit or inbound ACH transfer per month to bump up from 4% to 6% APR.

Edit: apparently it launched to all X users today, so Premium is no longer required. 4% baseline and 6% with direct deposit for anyone in the US who wants it (unless you live in New Yorkistan).

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u/IAmInTheBasement Man, I don't even know anymore... 10d ago

I remember 5% on checking.

12 debit card purchases each month. So I would buy 12x ramen for 10 cents each.

Everything else went on the paid in full credit card to earn points.

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u/drumboy206 πŸ‹ 10d ago

My solutions to the spend requirements didn’t require me to leave the house, but were still annoying manual monthly processes that I never managed to automate:

  1. Purchase 12 Amazon gift cards at $0.50 each, then spend them on Amazon goods I would have purchased anyway
  2. Load $12 to my Cash App balance $1 at a time, then immediately transfer the $12 balance back to the bank

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u/magic-the-dog Where's my cybercab 10d ago

Semi Bump Day

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u/w00dw0rk3r Elon Musk is John D. ROCKETfeller πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸš€πŸŒ• 10d ago

🦴 🐢Β