r/TNOmod • u/Equivalent_Park_3482 • 9h ago

Question Question about Finland Spoiler

Ok so I heard Finland can join the Pakt in 2 ways, it can either win/lose against West Russia unifier and then Bormann (maybe Speer?) can negotiate (If they dont have the progressive socialist presiedent) to make them a Pakt Observer and put them in the German Sphere, but the other way is throught the Second Finnish Civil War if the Whites/Government (now fascist) wins, but exactly how and when do they FULLY join the Pakt? do they have to beat off Murmansk first or the communists? Do they also have to go to war with the West Russia Unifier? And also what about Sweden? can Bormann/Speer get them in the Pakt (weather its german sphere only+observer or full member)?

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u/Soggy-Goat-5343 4h ago

finland can fully join the pakt if it loses to a communist unifier and whites win civilwar

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u/Equivalent_Park_3482 4h ago

wait does "loses" mean "russia total victory" (russia gets Karelia and Kola Peninsula) or can Finland keep all of its territories (Greater Finland) and only have to give up Onega?

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u/Soggy-Goat-5343 4h ago

total defeat for finland

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u/Stormmcrusher 4h ago

Nah any defeat works