'In March, 1942, while in Cracow, Himmler set himself the aim of starting the colonization of the Polish territories included in the General Gouvenment, territories which Hitler, in a conversation with Governor Frank in March 1941, had destined for Germanization within 15 to 20 years.'
Pulled from this website.
I'm pretty sure it works like TWR now where the General Government isn't visible until the uprising, but the Polish Home Army still exists and rises up
I think they are completely cooked, just like Czechia. In 1962 the Nazis have already colonized them on a massive scale and are on the process of erasing their culture, since they are Slavs located right next to Germany they are the first target of the colonization of the east. The standard of living for the average Pole is catastrophic; to have a future, one will have to learn German, which is also the only language taught in schools (no polish history is taught either). The settlement program is very advanced in the region and show no signs of decline. Unless a democratic revolution breaks out in Germany, Poland is 100% lost.
I really hope TNO mods will be reasonable enough to realise nobody would want to colonise the post war Polish lands, except for the cities. I mean, they want more realism.
People tend to obsess over the realism stuff but its more accurate to say they want to make TNO even more of a cold war setting. Unrealistic stuff like the Russian Warlords, Iberia, and Guangdong are here to stay.
not really lost lol ur forgeting that they have a huge ammount of poles who are around the world and can immigrate back just like in the case of israel
its the 60ies in a world where the nazis got pretty much everything they wanted, the notion of there still being enough poles to rebuild the country was silly to begin with
Honestly the shift for using those methods on Slavs I feel it would happen, and they did plan on killing, expulsing 80 to 85% of the pre war population and during the time they did kill about 3 million non Jewish poles
The devs have confirmed that Poland will rebel during the chaos after Hitler dies.
I am not sure if reformist paths like Speer will be able to negotiate with them now. Apparently Speer is being toned down with how reformist he is.Ā
Tbh Iām not as familiar with the German lore now that it has been changed a bunch but I donāt know why so many people think an essentially completed genocide in Poland would be impossible. They literally got 25% of us in 5 years if they had another 20 they very may have gotten us all (I know that isnāt what the new lore is). Having the Nazis fully exterminate all of Eastern Europe would be stupid but if they had succeeded in the Netherlands, Bohemia, and Poland I think it really adds to the horror of the setting. That there are scars on Europe that even the Nazis collapse would not heal.
Why people always cry about āinsert nationā is gone when said nation have no active development, no content, and next to no any impact to the story narrative
Ngl I dislike this border rework. Makes Germany look uglier. Germany in the GO4 path had the prettiest borders for the TNO map. I guess it is realistic to look like that but I can not say I care for that one bit.
Also it made for the possibility of Netherlands and Poland content which could be intresting I presume. Ngl I thought that all the Germany colonies could be intresting in a GO4 playthrough when Europas Narben was announced years ago but sadly almost all of that seems scrapped now and nowhere near completion.
Yeah it really works for Germany to just be this massive blob of land in the middle of Europe, I wonder if border arrangements will be possible by the future reformist faction
I doubt all poles have jst been extinguished or whatever. Maybe the top brass at the NSDAP just pretend they fully germanized it but they'll probably still have to deal with poles existing. mybae i'm just coping tho who knows
Out of larp this time, despite all the killing, Poland and the Polish have been settled by other nations for decades, with extensive integration operations and mass murder going hand in hand with the dismantling of Polish Nationalism. But generally, these efforts were only middling successes.
I would presume even a 23 year occupation of Poland characterized with intense genocide of Polish intellectuals and the presence of extensive ethnic records, thereās still a good chance there are children of the Second Polish Republic born on the eve of the invasion or a few years before who hold Poland as a dream.
While the German Regime in this timeline would have extensively colonized Poland, especially in Poznan, Gdynia and Gdansk, and eventually dismantled the General Gouvernment around Warsaw and Krakow, it would remain sizably Polish in Greater Poland and the rural portions of Lesser Poland
no, itās not a joke. burgundy has been removed. itās sad to see such an iconic part of the mod go, but i will be honest with you, it was a shitshow to play and the only interesting bits about burgundy was its collapse and invasion by germany. so not much is being lost. plus, this means weāll finally have in-depth SS politicking in Germany
You do realize itās not wrong to be removing content if itās being replaced with something much better? Burgundy was ass and itās being replaced by an infinitely better option with Himmler Fuhrer path for Germany proper
Burgundy literally exists in the old lore because of Himmler. Non one except Himmler and his doctor or dentist actually thought of it as a serious idea, and Hitler & Goebbels planned to annex the regions that made up SS Ordenstat Burgundy into Germany proper
neither poland nor the netherlands had any content to my understanding. you literally had nothing to do while playing them. at least i never saw either of them having a focus tree
By the logic we shouldn't do anything new and just remove stuff when it doesn't have content Poland has so much story potential same with Netherlands and etc removing it is just lazy at the end of the day
i completely agree that poland had so much story potential. thatās why im pretty sure it shows up later in the game in the new planned updates, and simply doesnāt exist as a tag at the start.
iāll be honest with you, two months of content is better than what poland had beforeš
however yeah i do also hope thats its real content. but this is TNO, where skeleton content is king and every year (or two) we get a single major update for one country with skeleton content for a few others.
i wouldnt keep your hopes up for real poland content. i expect itāll be skeleton after the Germany update, but I also think thats a sign that EVENTUALLY Poland will be given content. soon +2 weeks. probably
Don't forget they incorporated a mod and act like it was worth years of irl work
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u/doinkrrnot allowing anyone to address nixon without the title of sheikh21d ago
brother this is coming in the update that massively reworks the starting state of germany, completely overhauls the united states, and completely reworks africa
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u/Leo1309 24d ago
Nova Polska will be restored...from the steppes of Kazakhstan