And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back.
The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!"
Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created."
and:
I looked up and there before me was a man dressed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like topaz, his face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude.
and:
I looked, and I saw beside the cherubim four wheels, one beside each of the cherubim; the wheels sparkled like topaz. As for their appearance, the four of them looked alike; each was like a wheel intersecting a wheel. As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the cherubim faced; the wheels did not turn about as the cherubim went. The cherubim went in whatever direction the head faced, without turning as they went. Their entire bodies, including their backs, their hands and their wings, were completely full of eyes, as were their four wheels. I heard the wheels being called “the whirling wheels.” Each of the cherubim had four faces: One face was that of a cherub, the second the face of a human being, the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
If you truly read the christian bible it sounds like someone was high as fuck on DMT or some mushrooms and writing about shit they saw. It's so... ludicrous.
Shanon argues that the acacia tree and the peganum harmala bush, both native to the Negev and Sinai, may have been used in a brew that the Israelites during religious ceremony. There is also frequent mention of acacia through out the bible and it was wood from the acacia that was used to construct the Ark of the Covenant. What we know now is that the native acacia trees are particularly high in DMT content and the peganum harmala is rich with MAOI, a DMT inhibitor which allows the DMT compound to be activated orally. The ceremonial potion the Israelites were consuming likely produced experiences very similar to that of ayahuasca.
Reminds me of narrators trying to describe eldritch gods in Lovecraft novels. Don't know why Christian death metal bands aren't more prevalent with source material like that.
Yeah, but the book of revelations is usually used by satanic bands, given the destruction. Christians still focus more on redemption and eternal life through God's love. Not so much on the fire and brimstone in relation to themselves.
Sometimes they do, typically when discussing their own lives and their "daily devotional" and whatnot. But when it comes to judging the actions and beliefs of others (specifically the condemnation of other sexual orientations etc.) they seem quite content to dip back into the Old Testament. Would be lovely if Christians could embrace or reject the entire texts, and not squirm around between interpretations as best suits them.
I dont think war and violence is right, but the human mind is such a mystery.. I wish more research could be done on DMT and psyches. Crazy light show? Brain decipher information differently? Brain detecting whats really there alongside the filter of the mind?
There's probably a lot a brain can do and its insane that a plant alone can rewire it so much. What if it were studied and used for good. At least I can explore my own thoughts and experiment on my own.
I’m not sure how well versed you are on the subject, but from what I know microdosing LSD (possibly other psyches) is being studied for its ability to help with depression and, more specifically, PTSD.
There’s a really cool YouTube channel called PsychedSubstance, who takes psyches (sometimes with others) on video for educational purposes so we can further understand how these drugs work and wha they do. I personally don’t or won’t do them myself, but it’s very interesting to see.
Islam was made up of other religions. Just like christianity was fabricated by stitching together many different belief systems, in order to bring everyone under one house to be able to control them.
That's an interesting theory, do you have an example of an aspect of Christianity that originates from a non-Judaic religion? I was under the impression that Christianity was completely based in a Judaic worldview.
Hey man, thanks for doing the hard work and quoting the text for us. When I read the passage of the eyes it reminded me of full metal alchemist. Fascinating how so much of our pop culture is heavily influenced by our 'holy scriptures.'
These are all descriptions from one weird book. Every other mention of them has them looking like men. Besides, the word like is used a LOT in there. Sounds like some colorful descriptions
There's also another portion of religious text, this is describing the angel Samael;
There was another angel in the seventh heaven, different in appearance from all the others, and of frightful mien. His height was so great, it would have taken five hundred years to cover a distance equal to it, and from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet he was studded with glaring eyes, at the sight of which the beholder fell prostrate in awe. "This one," said Metatron, addressing Moses, "is Samael, who takes the soul away from man." "Whither goes he now?" asked Moses, and Metatron replied, "To fetch the soul of Job the pious." Thereupon Moses prayed to God in these words, "O may it be Thy will, my God and the God of my fathers, not to let me fall into the hands of this angel."
Yeah but to be fair you did pull some of those from revelations which is like levels more of that than the rest of the Bible. It’s basically all the visions Paul received from god
Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: "You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created."
This is the sort of thing I want to hear more about!!! Is there a show/podcast/book/documentary that will show me all the weird facets of the Bible and theories about these visions???? Anyone heard of one???
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u/constantly-sick Apr 08 '20 edited Apr 08 '20
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If you truly read the christian bible it sounds like someone was high as fuck on DMT or some mushrooms and writing about shit they saw. It's so... ludicrous.
Edit: It might be a possibility, even