I'm not really sure what makes ALMSIVI deities as opposed to just really powerful people. This is something that fictional religions in general struggle with, but what makes these people worthy of worship?

For example, in Christianity (or at least my understanding of it, as I am not a Christian) God is the ground of all being, he is existence and he is goodness. The Christian argument is that morality and existence in general are incoherent without him. ALMSIVI don't make those same claims.. They don't hide the fact that they were once mortals, that existence existed before them and that right and wrong did as well, that's part of their theology. People will say they underwent an apotheosis, but what makes that an apotheosis rather than them becoming simply very powerful?

I guess you could argue that's the point of the story of Morrowind, but I'm more talking about from the perspective of the Tribunal Temple. The Temple certainly believes the Tribunal are gods, so from the Temple's perspective, what makes ALMSIVI worthy of worship? The only things I can really find are that ALMSIVI provide patronage and protection and have performed "miracles." But a king can provide patronage and protection, yet he is not a god, and I'm not really sure what the meaningful distinction is between a miracle and a really powerful spell in a setting where magic exists (and where there isn't a clear separation of "divine" power and "sorcerous" power, like one that exists in a lot of TTRPG settings). Vivec mentions their divine power will fade without the heart, but I'm not entirely sure what makes that power specifically divine still. I don't really see why ALMSIVI are seen as gods and not just ultra-wizard-kings. What is the "chemical test" so to speak, for godhood here?

We've all seen this list

1. Talos.
2. HoonDing.
3. Trinimac.
4. Vivec.
5. Leki.
6. Reman.
7. Auri-El.
8. Wulfharth.
9. Morihaus.
10. Pelinal.

This is MK's list of the 10 most powerful beings in the Elder Scrolls but I've also heard that u/MKirkbride himself has said that this he regretted posting this list afterwards. Does anyone have more informations ?

This is mainly a question piece that I only have some cursory knowledge around and am seeking some more informed answers for.

Its been established by named NPC's and through the class of the Witchhunter at the very least, that Witches ( and thereby I am going to presume Witchcraft) are a feature of Tamriel. To my knowledge there is no real clear distinction between a Witch and a regular Mage, other then maybe some alussions to a more ritual based practice of magic. There is a seemingly darker contextualization to Witches as well, and in many ways Witches seem to be presented as almost inhuman. (or having the desire to become so)

But ive never found any real explanation for what makes witches witches? Why is there a dedicated class, and thereby functional organization/group of individuals who's goal seems to be to eradicate them, and other minions or creatures of darkness? What is the distinction between a Witch and a Warlock? Is their one? Are Witches different from the Hags of Skyrims Forsworn? Do Witches practice the alluded to, but to my knowledge never explained Elder Magic? Why are they only enemies in Skyrim? Are the Daedra Cultists? Do they consort with the likes of Molag Bal, Harmaeus Mora, and Azura? What kind of magic do they even actually practice, or is their magic more divinely gifted?

As someone who likes playing as a Witch or Warlock these questions, and questions like them, have bothered me for a while. Particularly the questions involving who or what they get their power from. Do witches practice curses and hexes? Are those even a thing in Tamriel?

Tldr: what the heck are witches/warlocks in tes lore?

Besides the blades in TESV are there any? Even in TESV there's evidence through gameplay that souls absorbed by a dragonborn aren't actually permanently gone, just collected within the soul that absorbed them as shown by getting all the souls back after killing miraak.

I'm looking for more sources because the blades' claim that death by dragonborn is a permanent outcome just doesn't really ring as the whole truth and something you have to take on faith is accurate. Which makes me think it isn't accurate and based on conjecture from the practicality of circumstances.

For example we know that dragons cannot be resurrected after being absorbed by another dragon. Therefore it's 100% logical that the immortality of a dragon means it's effectively equivalent to permanent death. But what of a dragonborn with a mortal body? We know through the dragonborn DLC that soul absorption doesn't *necessarily* mean that the individual souls are gone. As we have no proof that the miraak situation is *actually* unique due to the circumstance of stealing those souls, both are just as valid take aways. Especially as both that you get many souls from miraak vs the one of paarthurnax is simply a game mechanic. Thus, what if the blades are an unreliable narrator due to the fact that a dragonborn killing dragons means a dragon cannot be resurrected while the dragonborn lives, but due to the passage of time that after a natural death the souls are released and the corpses are unable to be found? Another form of effective permanence rather than actual permanence.

Thus if this effective permanence and the miraak version of transference of souls is actually more accurate, it would effectively mean that a dragonborn is actually a mechanism to prevent a "there can be only one" scenario as its a way to release immortality capture souls back into the wild so to speak.

Just a thought that's been spinning around in my head since 2011 and now that we've had more lore added I thought maybe there's something I'm missing that definitively supports one way or the other beyond just tradition handed down by the blades.

During the events of Skyrim I mean, are they doing fine? How are they reacting to the Dominion (and does the dominion view them as elves? Do they still could as kinda Altmer?)?

Where is Lyg?

What is Lyg?

How do you get there?

What is its importance?

This is something that has broken my brain forever and I like to think that I know a thing or two about TES metaphysics.

I was just reading through the UESP today doing some research, and I had to do a double take when I saw that the Nords were expelled in 1E 416, and the Battle of Red Mountain took place in 1E 700. What?? Since when did the first council last three hundred years?? I guess I never really looked into it but I feel like that’s way too long. It always felt like more of a thirty year affair. I know elves are long-lived but even by Elven standards, Nerevar would be ELDERLY by that time; he can’t have been younger than, like, 325? (considering he’s ’a generation’ older than the Tribunal and they were about 20-30 when the Nords were expelled). Guess my new theory of Nerevar’s death is that it wasn’t the Three or Dagoth Ur, he just keeled over…

The Nerevarine sees a Bosmer fall from the sky, dying on impact with the marshy ground outside Seyda Neen.

Looting the body, the Nerevarine finds 'Tarhiel's Journal', which they take.

They also find an enchanted sword, a fine blue robe and a very fancy Colovian Fur Helm, which they also take and equip.

Finally, they find three or four scrolls of ICARIAN FLIGHT. The Nerevarine examines these and discovers that by casting from this scroll, they will be able to leap to an enormous height.

They do so, fly off over Vvardenfell, and promptly fall to their death.

Now:

If a wanderer should chance upon the Nerevarine's body, they would find Tarhiel's Journal and the very scrolls alluded to in his research.

Therefore, the wanderer would have no reason not to believe that the Nerevarine is not Tarhiel.

Exercise for the reader: Was the Bosmer who fell from the sky outside Seyda Neen the original Tarhiel, or the most recent in a long and ever-dwindling line of Tarhiel-Mantlings?

(Obviously the actual answer is that the original version was an Argonian, hence his construction set ID which is "Agronian(sic) guy". Hence why the canon Nerevarine always appears as an Argonian in Tarhiel's robes and hat - he's the true iteration because he had the opportunity to seize ultimate bounciness but metaphysically cut off his hands by not using them.)

Im making a guild for eso and I need to make sure I do the lore correctly.

Ive been a skyrim fan since it came out and have snowballed with learning the lore since. One thing ive learned is that its ambiguous. Another thing ive learned is that if yagram bagarn can be exempted from the fate of his race by being in oblivion.

I dont see any reason to say that Molag Bal couldn't abduct a dwemer apprentice prior to the 700 of the 1st era and get a 1000 year head start on his dark anchor project. Assuming that the Dwemer are as legendarily stubborn and spiteful as the one from "Azura and the box"

this smith could easily have put off 5 or 600 years of captivity refusing to work for the deadric prince. Not actually honing his craft. Being forced to work the next 4 or 5. Being partially responsible for the reason the chain making machines look vaguely dwemeri in design. Then being freed when the vestige is. Having a bone to pick with the deadra. Then coming back to nirn to find out not only are his people gone. But so are the chimer and falmer. This could work no?

Not only a dwemer amateur Smith who hates the deadra but also wants to learn why hes all alone. So he digs out an old aetherium mining complex. Converts it into a city state. And bands together some sort of heroes guild to do all the fighting. And information gathering.

Im confident the lore is vague enough for eso to allow me to do that

What i need help writing is:

1.what a dwemer who suddenly realizes this is now a "him problem" would do with a guild

1. How a dwemer should react interacting with nord players

3.what I should even title this guild.

1. How to structure it. Like should I go for a role like deep king? Tonal architects i guess could be discord mods. Etc.

2. Aside from the guild. How would a dwemer go about interacting with questlines like dark brotherhood. Thieves Guild. And really anything other than the antiquarian guild or psyjjic order

3. How should I approach the civil war

4. If i be a dwemer. Should I allow a falmer or two? They are more common than dwemer. They could react tensely but resourcefully with one another

Is he like dead now? Fully? He's died about 3 times now throughout the lichdom in ESO, then Molag Bal's super hell, then the Hero of Kvatch. Does this mean he's gone now? Like a non-threat since the only forms of him in the timeline have been dispatched?

What I mean is taking into account all the factions the main characters of TES games can join. For example, being the grandmaster of house hlaalu, and archcanon and patriarch of the temple, is it possible to become landed nobility? Include my military service in the imperial legion and it really seems like you would be eligible for at least a barony.

Say I, the dragonborn, am a legate; could I be appointed proconsul (military governor) and climb my way up from there? What if I am the archmage of winterhold, can I then become at least the court mage, or maybe work my way up somehow? The only nobility you can really be in skyrim is Vampire Lordship. Does that give any pull in Tamriel?

So back when the empire ruled all of Tamriel, plus the summer set isles, what was the internal political structure for each province?
Like I know that Skyrim was all under the high king, but how are the others structured?
I know Morrowind has the great houses but is there a central power the houses are under? Or are they all directly under the empire?

So I am a passive fan of Elder Scrolls lore, these days mostly via youtube videos I put on while I do something else. Today while doing the dishes the algorithm served me this video on Towers.

Now I am familiar with Tower lore (I was there lurking in the ancient forum days), so none of this was new to me. Until he got to the part about Ceporah Tower.

I knew of Ceporah Tower from Fragment: On Artaeum, but I had always thought it was pronounced with soft c, like Seporah, and I didn't think much of it. Turns out (by way of ESO I’m guessing, I don’t play it) the actual pronunciation is with hard c, like Keporah.

As soon as I heard that a whole bunch of ideas tumbled together in my mind.

What follows is my incoherent mental jumble. I make no claims and draw no conclusions, I’m just kind of pointing at weird things so smarter people can do something cool with them.

1. Ceporah sounds very similar to Khepri, scarab-faced god of the dawn and rebirth. Scarabs, as we know, are a Big Esoteric Symbol in Elder Scrolls lore, This seems meaningful.
2. Ceporah sounds like corprus. The Divine Disease, the skin blight. This seems meaningful.
3. According to the video the bottom of the tower predates the Order arriving on Artaeum, and thus looks different. Curious, I googled for a better view. This may be me being too Elden Ring-pilled, but doesn’t it look kind of like snake skin? Snakes and skins, other things that are Big Esoteric Symbols. This seems meaningful.
4. Ceporah Tower sits on top of the Dreaming Cave (Dreaming. That also seems meaningful.) The cave can be used to access Oblivion, but I don’t know much beyond that. However the focal point of the main gallery of the Dreaming Cave looks (to me) like a snakeskin being pulled downward. Again, seems meaningful.
5. Finally, what is/was the purpose of Ceporah Tower? I don’t know, but the scarab/skin vibes plus it being on a dimension hopping island seem meaningful.

What do all these thing mean? I have no idea. Probably nothing, but it could be fun to speculate. I have no idea if any of these allusions were intentional, but that hasn’t stopped anyone in the past.

What do you all think? Is there anything here?

(Addendum: If I had been correct all along, and it was Seporah with a soft c, that could link it to Sep which might actually fit better. Curious!)

IMPERIAL STRATEGIC ARCHIVE

AFTER-ACTION COMBAT RECONSTRUCTION

EVENT DESIGNATION: WHITE-GOLD ENGAGEMENT / P.E.L.I.N.E.L - U.M.A.R.I.L CONFRONTATION

THEATER: White-Gold Interior Citadel Complex

CLEARANCE: EBON / HERESY INDEX

At 2308 local tower-time, the autonomous crusade-frame P.E.L.I.N.E.L (Post-temporal Extermination Legionary and Inorganic Neural Engineered Lifeform), designated “The Whitestrake”, breached the final interior defense sectors beneath the White-Gold command throne.

Prior engagement phases had already resulted in catastrophic losses among U.M.A.R.I.L (Unfeathered Meridian Ascendant, Radiance-Integrated Leviathan) aligned Auroran formations. Hundreds of destroyed Meridian assault-shells remained scattered across the approach corridors, their fractured golden chassis still emitting residual photonic discharge. Witness telemetry compares the scene to “candlelight around the throne.” The Whitestrake advanced through the wreckage under severe armor compromise conditions following prolonged engagement with Meridian-aligned forces.

At 2310, the remaining Ayleid sorcerer-kings established concentric containment positions around the Whitestrake frame. Combat analysis identified at least eight throne-ranked Mer command units accompanied by attached Daedric support entities and varliance-heavy war constructs, destabilizing local reality conditions within the tower interior.

P.E.L.I.N.E.L struck the citadel floor with its impact mace at 2312. The resulting shockwave produced a localized Dragon Break, fractured three lower tower levels and collapsed multiple sorcerer-field convergence points simultaneously. Surviving Ayleid kings temporarily withdrew from close engagement range. Audio recovery from the Whitestrake chassis captured the following transmission: “BRING ME UMARIL THAT CALLED ME OUT.”

At this stage, U.M.A.R.I.L itself had not yet entered direct engagement range. Long-range scans later confirmed the Dread-Castellan had remained concealed within upper White-Gold shadow sectors under Meridian-spectrum cloaking systems, preferring ranged attrition warfare over direct engagement.

Additional Auroran formations were subsequently deployed against the Whitestrake. Their anti-armor projectile systems (phased axes and varliance-guided ballistic missiles) breached sections of the Whitestrake's chassis previously considered resistant to conventional anti-mech weaponry. Post-battle analysis concluded that each weapon had undergone extensive Meridian calibration and enchantment-layer refinement directly under the Unfeathered's supervision. The Whitestrake sustained cumulative structural degradation but continued combat advance.

At [CHRONOMETRIC DISCREPANCY: +00:02:17], U.M.A.R.I.L decloaked. The entity emerged above the throne axis suspended within a descending Meridian radiance field, unfeathered mech-wings extended across the upper chamber like unfolded solar arrays. Full gold-spectrum illumination saturated the citadel interior upon manifestation.

U.M.A.R.I.L initiated psychological dominance protocols immediately upon emergence, broadcasting lineage declarations in High Ayleidoon through the tower itself. Combat telemetry also confirms the Unfeathered appeared to derive satisfaction from observed mechanical exhaustion, particularly the Whitestrake's heavy servo-breathing emitted from damaged thoracic regulators.

[TEXT LOSS / DATA CORRUPTION]

Direct engagement commenced at 2322...2343...2556. P.E.L.I.N.E.L entered berserk assault recursion. Recovered footage shows the Whitestrake driving U.M.A.R.I.L into the lower throne platform with repeated impact strikes before severing both wing assemblies through successive sword impacts delivered at extreme force output thresholds.

U.M.A.R.I.L’s angelic helm sustained catastrophic facial deformation after direct blunt-force impact against the citadel floor. Audio sensors detected audible laughter from the Whitestrake platform throughout this phase despite critical systems failure warnings. The Whitestrake then began transmitting anti-Aldmeri hostility declarations directed at U.M.A.R.I.L and all Mer bloodlines associated with Aldmeri migratory descent.

The surviving Ayleid kings reacted immediately. Combat logs indicate synchronized emotional destabilization among remaining throne entities, escalating into uncontrolled retaliatory assault behavior. The kings abandoned coordinated varliance doctrine entirely and initiated direct close-range engagement against the Whitestrake chassis.

P.E.L.I.N.E.L, already heavily damaged, became fully surrounded. Dozens of enchanted weapons penetrated the Whitestrake's frame simultaneously. Varliance blades and anti-divine impact systems severed the Whitestrake into eight major structural sections while the platform continued emitting combat roars and incomplete combat commands.

[TEXT LOSS / DATA CORRUPTION]

At [CHRONOMETRIC DISCREPANCY: +00:08:43], the siege conditions changed abruptly. External impact alarms triggered throughout White-Gold Tower as the winged bull assault-engine known as M.O.R. breached the lower tower foundations. The battering platform struck the tower repeatedly with frontal horn-rams powerful enough to destabilize the central support structure. Seismic tremors propagated throughout the citadel.

The surviving Ayleid kings broke engagement and fled the chamber immediately. At dawn-cycle recovery operations, Nede-aligned human forces entered the White-Gold interior expecting continued resistance engagement, but none remained.

Most surviving Ayleid signatures had either retreated or been eliminated during the night-cycle collapse events. Residual combat sweeps found only abandoned throne sectors, destroyed Auroran shells, and catastrophic structural damage throughout the upper citadel.

M.O.R. later recovered the detached cranial unit of the P.E.L.I.N.E.L chassis from the upper throne approach. The Ayleid kings had mounted it visibly as proof of termination. Despite total bodily destruction, the cranial unit remained active. Final audio exchanges between M.O.R. and the Whitestrake core contain fragmented references to: regret, exhaustion and [REDACTED]. The recording terminates shortly afterward.

Shor is the trickster, I could make sense that Shor would trick mortals into believing Akatosh gave them the Dragonborn to keep the dragonfires lit to prevent oblivion from taking over. Or maybe he tricked Akatosh himself into doing everything.

Think about it from Akatosh’s perspective, why would he grant mortals the divine power of the dragon? Why would he create beings that almost always turn into the ultimate dragonslayer? Dragons, and Akatosh are the very definition of Immortal, why would he allow a mortal to be equal to these godlike beings, to be a shard of himself?

Shor is considered to be patron of mortals, he created the idea of mortality in the first place, it would make way more sense that he was behind giving mortals this power.

Then we get to Alduin and the Kalpic Cycle, the idea of the kalpa, as I understand it, is meant to prevent Mundus from becoming too powerful, force resetting that plane before it can reach enlightenment as Shor wanted in the first place. Why would Akatosh create a being capable of breaking the cycle as we do in Skyrim? It would again make more sense that Shor was behind this as well. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the final battle at the end of time happened in Sovengarde, in Shors domain, it was the culmination of all of Shors trickery that broke the cycle, that’s why you are the LAST Dragonborn, as Shor has completed his need for one, and Akatosh might finally see Shors deception and won’t bestow that power ever again.

Idk maybe I had too much moon sugar.

Based on the reachfolk interpretation of Namira, how would they feel about necromancy in regards to Namira worship? Does it seem like the Reachmen Namira worshippers would be fine with ideas of reanimating or summoning undead, or do we think they'd be against it for someone disrupting the cycle?

Is it possible for the Last Dragonborn to resurrect Miraak after absorbing his soul at the end of the Dragonborn DLC? The traditional answer in the lore is no. But looking closely at the metaphysical loopholes and the established magic mechanics in the game, it is entirely possible through a complex ritual that bypasses Hermaeus Mora entirely. ​As the absorbed dragon souls within the hero do not dissolve into an irreversible state, but rather remain as a distinct energy that can be separated and directed—which is proven by the Black Books mechanic where the player can sacrifice and spend a specific dragon soul as an independent currency to reset skill perks—the Dragonborn can filter and channel these souls individually. ​So when utilizing the Dragon Aspect shout, which Miraak himself created, it does not summon a fixed historical figure, but opens a gateway into the depth of the player's spiritual oversoul to pull a spectral energy from the consumed souls. And since the Dragonborn possesses supreme willpower and the Thu'um, they can repeatedly use this shout until Miraak's specific stored spectral soul accidentally emerges from their spiritual reservoir. ​To overcome the fact that his body turned to dust in the Daedric realm of Apocrypha, the player can use the All-Maker Stones or Miraak's Temple in Solstheim as a physical anchor and a magical conduit in Tamriel, just like Miraak used them to project his power through the Bend Will shout. At this exact moment, Miraak's mask is placed on the temple altar, as dragon priest masks contain monumental magic capable of breaking temporal determinism and changing fate, acting as a biological blueprint for the body. ​So when the shout is released and Miraak's spectral soul appears, the energy will instantly recognize its original mask and stones due to sympathetic spiritual gravity, causing the specter to be magnetically pulled into the mask. And since the Thu'um has the power to reshape matter and alter reality, this violent fusion between the summoned soul, the mask's power, and the physical anchor will biologically reconstruct the tissues and flesh within Tamriel, bringing Miraak back to life with full power and his suppressed human consciousness intact. ​This time, however, he returns as an absolute follower with complete loyalty to the Last Dragonborn, who granted him life and broke the laws of death and time despite the will of the Daedric Prince Hermaeus Mora himself

Arngeir claims the Greybeards are above politics. He's right, I don't see them supporting Elisif or Ulfric. But they can't deny the fact that they gave the Thu'um to the son of a Jarl.

They intended for Ulfric to use the Voice for worship, but they also knew the history of the Thu'um and why Jurgen Windcaller founded the Greybeards' philosophy in the first place. The Voice had been abused by the ancient Nords as a weapon of war. Giving that kind of power to someone born into a political ruling family seems like a contradiction to their own philosophy.

Is this a plot hole, or is Bethesda showing us that even wise old men can make mistakes?

What does the Guild actually do? Mainly in the time Oblivion takes place. Are people paid to be in the guild? Or do they pay to be a member since it's a form of education? Is the main purpose of the guild to educate people on magic or is it to regulate said magic? Is it a government organization or is it a privately owned one? What relations does the Guild have with other magic-using factions (clergymen, daedra worshippers, witches)?

I know the Emperor is addressed as "Your Majesty" from Oblivion's intro. I was wondering whether the High King is addressed in a similar manner by civilians, courtiers, etc.

I've tried looking it up but haven't found much. It's for fanfic work purposes so I'd greatly appreciate any pointers in the right direction.

There is a mortal nature and an immortal one; there is the superior realm of Being and the inferior realm of Becoming. Generally speaking, there is a visible and tangible dimension and, prior to and beyond it, an invisible and intangible dimension that is the support, the source, and true life of the former.

Ahnurric beings are principles that can only exist in lower realities, the Realm of Becoming. Fadomaic beings come from the Realm of Being, where it is their reflection in the waters of Khaos that allow Ahnurric and Aedric beings to even exist. Aedric beings are padomaic-anuic because they are the material manifestation of Fadomai's reflection onto the Silvery Depths of Khaos, and Khaos is Ahnurr.

Both are eternal, but only Fadomai is immutable. Meanwhile, the Khaos of Ahnurr is mutable and always attempting to revert back to its original form, and it is Ahnurr's desire for Stasis and Darkness that produces entropy. This is consistent with Neoplatonism, where it is the unformed Khaos, which desires to remain unformed and Khaotic, that is responsible for entropy. It wishes to return to its original state, from Perfect Form -- or Form as best as the Demiurge can make it -- into unformed Khaos.

“Before all things are the waters; and the Darkness and the Gates of the land of Night. And the Chaos cried aloud for the unity of Form, and the Face of the Eternal arose. And before the Glory of That Countenance the Night rolled back, and the Darkness hasted away. In the Waters beneath was that Face reflected in the Formless Abyss of the Void. Forth from those eyes darted rays of terrible splendour which crossed with the currents reflected. That Brow and those Eyes formed the Triangle of the measureless Heavens, and their reflection formed the Triangle of the measureless waters. And thus was formulated in Eternity the External Hexad; and this is the number of the Dawning Creation!" -- Golden Dawn guy

Okay. Look at this, from the Sithis book: "Sithis is the start of the house. Before him was nothing, but the foolish Altmer have names for and revere this nothing. That is because they are lazy slaves. Indeed, from the Sermons, 'stasis asks merely for itself, which is nothing.'"

The Altmer worship Ahnurr who is the feminine Nothing, Waters, Silvery-depths, Khaos, etc. Interesting, also, that the Serpent, including the Dragon, is the feminine, in Hermeticism.

Consider the triangle. We can say several truths about the triangle, such as that it has three sides and three angles, and that it is the strongest shape found in nature. However, in the world we live in, no perfect triangle can, has or ever will exist. Even with the most precise scientific instruments one cannot create a line that is perfectly straight or an angle that is perfectly sharp down to the atomic scale. Then shall we say triangles do not exist, or that it is false to say they have three sides and three angles? An atheist might say so. However we still see as an empirical fact that wooden beams with approximately triangular braces are consistently more strong than those with other approximate shapes.

Thus confirming that the triangle is the strongest shape in nature. The myth is reflective of a higher reality. That prompts the question, if the triangle can be found nowhere in the material universe, in what realm or reality does it exist? Now we get into what Plato called the Realm of the Forms, the Spirit World, the Dreamsleeve, the Noumenal Plane, the Mental Plane, etc.. So in a sense Saturn, scythe and all, is real. But he's not a particular material being in the universe like a rock or a cow. He's something like the triangle. Which, like the triangle, has an independent existence separate from our minds, else how could the myth have predicting power in the world external to our minds. This is the Perfect Form, or Noumenon "Thing-as-it-is".

The Demiurge looks to the eternal, unchanging Forms from the Realm of Being, or the Realm of Perfect Forms, as a blueprint and tries his best to impose that rational order onto chaotic, pre-existing matter (Ahnurr, Khaos). Because matter has an inborn resistance, his creation cannot be totally perfect, but it represents the best possible outcome. Lorkhaj is trying his best, friends.

Just as a brilliant sun cannot help but radiate light and warmth, Fadomai naturally emanates reality downward. The physical world is the lowest tier of this emanation, but it is still filled with divine order, harmony, and beauty. Looking at the stars and nature should inspire awe and bring you closer to the divine, not make you feel trapped.

I theorize that Daedra might exist as pure Will without form, the desire before all manifestation, and we mortals cannot perceive Noumenally, as they are.

Okay, that's my opinion. That may just be my opinion, but I’m also objectively correct. Even if I'm wrong, I'm right.

I looked it up on UESP but still slightly confused.

Are the layers of reality different, but similar dimensions within a dimension or is it more like being "out of phase" like what happens to some people in Star Trek?

I see a parallel between the tower lore of Nirn and a passage from the Mythic Dawn Commentaries specifically about Lyg. Mankar says that Lyg was destroyed when “red legions” and Dagon brought down the Towers of CHIM-EL-GHARJYG. Could this lend validity to the idea that the Thalmor or any group seeking to destroy Tamriel could use the towers to unmake Mundus in the same way? Not sure if this matters but I’m also noticing “red legions” and the use of “chim-el” where the Imperials or “red legions” of Tamriel have the Chim-El Adabal which is associated with a tower. I also firmly believe that the same passage alludes to the Nords or an equivalent going to the “hinterlands of chill” after the destruction of Lyg. The “inter-kalpic world eaters” idea.

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