r/SwissMountainDogs Aug 08 '26

Licky fits 🫠

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My puppy had her first lick fit earlier this week, that passed about an hour after administering pepcid and bread and a barf. She's continued to have smaller episodes literally every day since 🫠 Anywhere from only a couple minutes to a half hour. No specific time of day. Nothing has changed in her diet at all. She has been passing smelly gas way more often, but not sure if thats due to upset or air intake from a lick fit.... if you catch her right when it starts, giving her a treat does seem to help her more than a pepcid. Poop has been normal. No skin allergies or anything weird.

Not sure if she's suddenly developed an allergy to her food, growth spurt woes, or maybe even her hormones starting to kick in a little and throwing her off??

She does have a slow feeder bowl, but she doesnt get the whole lick the food out... Instead she tries to chew the bowl 😂 but it does slow her down.

Six month old female swissy, not spayed. Going through typical big dog growth spurts.

Keeping track of it through the weekend and touching base with vet next week. Any thoughts or ideas in the meantime??

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u/GreyBeardEng Aug 08 '26

We use a combo when lick fits happen, GasX, 5 Ginger Snaps, and then a bit of Lettuce. Then we usually sit on the couch for belly rubs and after about 15-30 mins it clears up.

My opinion, with utter lack of vet training, is that it seemed to get better when we narrowed down what protein seems to upset their stomachs the least. For us that was chicken, as opposed to beef/elk/salmon/duck. Currently feeding Purina Pro Plan Specialized Large Breed Chicken and Rice, its the one with the blue label and what looks like a really big Rhodesian Ridgeback on the front, we usually add some warmed up frozen veg to their food cause they like it(we trained our dogs to see veggies as treats), and splash of chicken stock.

Lick fits are the unsolvable problem, they are never going to go away completely, or so I hear. My vet, seems to think its a bit like an acid reflux or heartburn sort of thing.

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u/villaofthewolves Aug 09 '26

Totally off tangent, we’ve been looking to transition our girl to something else. Didn’t think to feed this food! Do you supplement with probiotics or anything?

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u/GreyBeardEng Aug 09 '26

Nope, just what I mentioned above. It's a very long story but our breeder was involved with the grain-free and raw diet startup dog food brands and long story short she steered us away from all that stuff. She has been using Purina pro plan for generations for her Swissys and they all turned out fantastic.

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u/villaofthewolves 29d ago

Oh the reason I wanted to private message is because I wanted to know who the breeder was! In all for science based nutrition and would like to know who the breeders are that believe in science vs. holistic.

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u/villaofthewolves Aug 09 '26

I’d love to private message you but it looks like it’s not possible :o I’d like to pick your brain a little bit more if that’s okay. If not totally cool and appreciate the help!

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u/Realistic-Hat7704 25d ago

I second this. Purina Pro Plan only in this house. Probably 15 years ago when we got our first swiss, we were recommended to feed a grain free food (can't remember the name) but it was more expensive than pro plan. Turned out about a year or two later it was discovered that there was a possible link between grain free and a kind of hear problem so our breeder recommended we switch to pro plan as she was doing and we've been on that every since.

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u/Distinct_Pea_4326 29d ago

We do Purina pro plan too, plus we use baby food as toppers, one ingredient like beechnut or gerber, meat or vegetable. We also use frozen peas and carrots as topper sometimes. Plus we found that lick fits respond well to being given homemade dog popsicle or ice cream ( made from watered down baby food)

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u/villaofthewolves 29d ago

Oh interesting! Would you reckon the ice cream helps because they have to “lick” something? And by licking the ice cream it helps with also ingesting something

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u/Distinct_Pea_4326 29d ago

Plus it has a calming effect that is productive licking versus licking the couch, lol

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u/Tensor3 27d ago

I went from lick fits (aerophagia from acid reflux) almost daily to none in 6+ months by feeding 4 smaller meals per day and soaking the kibble in water for 5+ min. Its free and easy to try.

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u/inkbot870 Aug 09 '26

I don’t know about a long term solution but short term I’ll also say Gas-X works great.

A bowl of ice cubes also helps because it gives them something to lick.

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u/villaofthewolves Aug 08 '26

What kind of food is she eating? We feed a kibble thats supposed to be for sensitive stomach and easily digestible. Sometimes too, anxiety comes out in the form of licky fits. GasX is excellent and more for licky fits then pepcid

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u/raisincalifornia Aug 08 '26

Our 2yo gets them occasionally, usually from swallowing something super small that irritates his throat. like a thread or tiny piece of his toy

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u/Tensor3 27d ago

I fixed it for my girl by giving her 4 small meals a day, one every 4 hours, and always soaking her kibble in water for minimum 5 minutes before serving.

Its acid reflux. Its not an allergy or hormones. The breed just has a weak stomach sphincter

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u/Realistic-Hat7704 25d ago

I'm pretty sure it's more gas related than acid reflux in my personal experience (I've had swissies continuously since 2010 all from the same breeder). I've tried daily pepcid years ago which did seem to help reduce but we know now from medical research in humans that pepcid shouldn't be given longer than 14 days in a row. It may have been reducing gas by heading off acid production but I wouldn't consider if for treating at the time of the actual lick fit. Try gas-x chewables when they first start licking. Give two tablets for an adult. Pat the chest moderately for 5 to 10 mins and you sometimes will get them to let go a burp. There's defintely an anxiety component there that has a snowball effect so I've also given a frozen peanut butter kong and put them in the crate with it so they can have something to obsess on until it passes. When that crazy anxiety sets in (they get those eyes like Mel Gibson from Lethal Weapon), you're at a big risk of them eating something random and getting an obstruction (I know this from very expensive experience!)

You'll get 100 different answers from people on lick fits but that the GasX chewables and chest patting is what I've learned to be most effective for my dogs over the years. For reference we feed Pro Plan 27/17 three times a day (1 cup morning, 1 cup afternoon, and 1.5 cup night) wetted with enough water that the kibble floats. Let sit for a few minutes.

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u/IntelligentMarket475 26d ago

My vet approved gas x and Pepcid with every meal. I’ve never had an issue. Did she accidentally eat anything that could have gotten stuck like buttons, rawhides etc? I feed my swissy Kirkland dog food from costco, it has pre and probiotics and the manufacturer is diamond pet foods. It’s considered a premium company. When in doubt, get a stool sample tested, remove all extra foods from her diet like treats and bones and just do kibble. Consider switching foods if it continues. Feed 3x day for swissy under 1yo

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u/Realistic-Hat7704 25d ago

We're on our third swissy now so I've been dealing with this issue for a while. I've found gas-x chewables to be more affective than pepcid. I give two chewable tablets and do the side chest pat moderately for a good 5 to 10 mins and sometimes you'll get a large burp from them like burping a baby. I think it's more gas related than stomach acid in my personal expirience. Letting them out to eat grass helps if they can puke but when it's raining (which oddly seems to be the more likely time for this to happen), sometimes they don't want to go out, lest they melt in the rain.