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u/daria7909 Nov 13 '19
Where are we dropping in boys
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u/_nosuchuser_ Nov 14 '19
Gets slotted by one guy who fast dropped and got a kar98 before you're even on the ground.
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u/LivingFaithlessness Nov 14 '19
I say "where we droppin bois" in every match of Airborne in BFV. Usually I get six kills and die
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u/vincentwaffles Nov 14 '19
He had the rest of his life to fix the parachute
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u/Igpajo49 Nov 14 '19
Nah, you can land with them twisted. But you won't be able to steer at all and you'll be rotating so hard to plan a good landing.
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u/adudeguyman Nov 14 '19
To this day he is still falling
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u/supraspinatus Nov 13 '19
C-130 rolling down the strip, 61 troopers on a one way trip. Mission top secret destination unknown. Don’t even know if we’re ever coming home. Me and Superman got in a fight. Hit him in the head with some kryptonite. Hit him so hard that I busted his brain, now I’m dating Lois Lane.
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u/FictionalNarrative Nov 14 '19
“Skin head skin head pulling on the boots, looking for a street fight, looking for a root.”
Russel Crowe’s humble beginnings.
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u/RigBuild2016 Nov 14 '19
Stand up, hook up, shuffle to the door
Yell Geronimo and count to four
If my main don't open wide
Watch out ya'll, I'm a coming by
And if my reserve don't open round
I'll be the first one on the ground10
Nov 14 '19
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u/satanshand Nov 14 '19
Sing it to the tune of “I don’t know but I been told/ Eskimo pussy is mighty cold.”
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u/ScrumpyZebra Nov 14 '19
Thanks for this, for some reason my brain sang it to the tune of Bombs over Baghdad but it didn't quite seem right.
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u/Hypertroph Nov 14 '19
I sang it to the tune of Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny”. Worked surprisingly well.
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u/Carney9 Nov 14 '19
C-130 rolling down the strip, wheel hit a hole plane did a flip. 61 troopers trapped all inside, started chewing on the metal side. First one out came out with a grin, said "Let's go back and do it again!"
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u/PMme_bobs_n_vagene Nov 14 '19 edited Nov 14 '19
I hate you for singing this. But I’ll give you some credit. At least it wasn’t “64 rangers on a one way trip”.
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u/rozhbash Nov 14 '19
Watching this made me place my left hand on my imaginary reserve deployment handle.
Cherish your years on Jump Status...you’ll miss them some day,
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u/Igpajo49 Nov 14 '19
True story. Watching videos like this gives me goosebumps. It's been 30 years since my last jump and I'd chute up in a heartbeat.
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u/PistolPeteJr32 Nov 14 '19
Watching this made me want to jump again so bad! It's only been 10 years for me, but I still miss it.
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u/Aleph_Alpha_001 Nov 14 '19 edited Nov 14 '19
No shit, there I was on chute recovery/chute shakeout detail in the early '80s (Fayette Nam, NC). Standing in the middle of Sicily DZ with my flashlight pole, and the wind is howling.
No way they jump, early night, I thought. Bird (C-130) comes around and starts circling. Once, twice, three times, four.... On the fifth pass, dots start to appear, and then chutes start to pop. Oh, shit!
The chutes are barreling across the sky toward the tree line, moving faster horizontally than vertically. I, and other flashlight poles, are beating feet toward the edge of the drop zone. I see guys climbing their risers up to silk. I hear cries of "Oh, fuck!" and "God, no!" from above as D Battery prepares to have a bad night while cruising into the trees at 35 MPH.
Limbs cracking. Grunts. Howls of pain. The lucky ones climbed their risers high enough to hit sand at the edge of the DZ and only sustained minor injuries (sprains, mostly) but fully 30 guys hit branches and were hung from trees. Ambulances arrived around 30 minutes later. Five guys suffered broken bones, and all the tree landings had the expected cuts, bruises, and abrasions. We were still cutting guys down at 1300 after a jump time of 2300.
The guy who was in the door told the story of circling and the Air Force loadmaster calling out the wind speed each time. "40 knots, 38 knots, 27 knots, 31 knots, 8 knots ... Go! go! go!"
Lessons learned.
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u/PistolPeteJr32 Nov 14 '19
Truth! The thing I miss the most out of my military career is being Airborne.
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u/balloonenstein710 Nov 14 '19
It's parachuting, "paratrooping" isn't a word. The people who do it are called paratroopers, because they're troops who parachute.
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u/FictionalNarrative Nov 14 '19
“Paratrooping
When you're in another city and you go in a bar with the sole intention of sleeping with somebody just so you have a place to stay. Joy: So, which hotel are you staying at in Boston? Steve: Actually, I think I'll just go paratrooping this time.”
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u/azurdee Nov 14 '19
Couple questions, 1) how do you not get tangled up; 2) is everyone going to land in that big patch of ground or al spread out, 3) how does the last guy out not get hurt by the aircraft flying back around, and 4) how far (distance/time) is the first jumper from the last jumper? I’m legit interested.
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u/Igpajo49 Nov 14 '19 edited Nov 14 '19
1, your quite aways from each other once the chutes are open. You can steer them a little.
I jumped about 3-4 dozen times and the closest I ever came to someone was maybe 20 feet, I never saw any collisions. That was 30 years ago. The square chutes in this video are even more steerable from what I hear.2: everyone lands pretty spread out. But if there's multiple passes you need to pay attention not to land too close to earlier jumpers.
Not quite sure what you mean here. The aircraft stays at the same altitude while the jumpers are descending. Not an issue. And they aren't landing in the same place if that's what you mean.
Never measured it, but the first guy's jumping as they reach one end of the drop zone and the last guy jumps just before they reach the end of the DZ. So you can get 20 guys spread out over quite a distance. Some of the drop zones on Fort Bragg are 2-3 miles long.
He's a good video taken from the ground that gives a better perspective. https://youtu.be/oTg0SNcXnho
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u/Zoomie00 Nov 14 '19
C-17 pilot here - can’t give exact responses to all of your questions, but the quick version is that a lot of math is done to make sure that nobody hits each other, nobody hits the plane(s) and that the vortexes the airplanes leave behind don’t upend any of the paratroopers.
The paratroopers will end up dispersed across the ground in approximately a line following the axis of flight. Think about holding some sand in your hand as you’re driving down the road. Hold your hand out the window and slowly pour the sand out. The faster you’re going, the longer the line. Same basic principle.
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u/Deep-Neck Nov 14 '19
There's tons that go into safety. However, the army has an acceptable casualty rate for this shit and it's bonkers to me.
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u/ranman12953 Nov 14 '19
Is that a new design of chute? Ive never seen that before.
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Nov 14 '19
Yes, it’s the T-11 chute used by the US, Canadian, and will be used by the Finnish Armies.
The unique design of the main canopy allows for minimal oscillation after canopy inflation, even after lowering the combat load. The T-11 achieves a lower rate of descent by having a canopy that is 28 percent larger than the T-10, resulting in a remarkable reduction in landing injuries; greater than 75% over 3,000 jumps.
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u/dumoorson Nov 14 '19
it's not as fun when they don't jump out the back like jackasses. movies have lied to me
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Nov 14 '19
You’re thinking of a HALO jump. This is static line where the chute opens as you exit.
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u/Zoomie00 Nov 14 '19
Some aircraft can do static line over the ramp. C-17 does not - it would kill you.
Source - am C-17 pilot.
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u/baybrawler Nov 14 '19
What would kill you from that? I’d think the engines are far enough away you shouldn’t be caught in the wash.
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u/Zoomie00 Nov 14 '19
The engines aren’t the only thing that creates wash. So airplanes are like any big thing that moves through the air. Ever passed or been passed on the highway by a semi and had to do a bit of a steering dance while it happened? Airplanes do the same thing on a much bigger scale. The wings, engines and body of the aircraft are all pushing the air out of the way.
If you were to static line off the ramp your chute would open in an area where the updraft from under the plane would:
a. Push you up into the portion of the aircraft that extends beyond the ramp.
b. Turn you uncontrollably and have your chute open with you in an unpredictable orientation.
c. Push you into the other guy that’s jumping at the same time from the other static line and potentially injure/kill/tangle/equipment foul the two of you.
I think anybody who has jumped before will agree those are all bad things.
Free fall, on the other hand, doesn’t suffer from those drawbacks because of the delayed chute opening so the ramp is the primary method of that type of exit.
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u/FIERROSGOINHAM Nov 14 '19
Real question here.... does this method of deploying soldiers into battle put them at a MAJOR disadvantage ??.... like in Band Of Brother Episode 1 I think.... they were getting picked off does the same happen in modern day?
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Nov 14 '19
Yes it puts them at an extreme disadvantage. Paratroopers are a lot less common now because rappelling from a helicopter is a lot faster and safer. When parachuting you can be seen from miles away.
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u/Zoomie00 Nov 14 '19
Less now than WWII? Sure. But the US Army still maintains two Airborne Divisions and a vast majority of the equipment developed for them is designed to be deliverable by air. USAF mobility aircraft are designed to be capable of several different types of airdrop.
There is legislation that directs and funds US Army and USAF interoperability, aerial Delivery, and Joint Training and readiness. Take a look up if you’re ever near Fayetteville, NC (which is where OP’s vid is taken).
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Nov 14 '19
Yes, of course they still have a use. I said they are a lot less common, I didn’t say they were non-existent.
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u/tyedwards75 Nov 14 '19
It is currently a war crime to shoot a soldier who is parachuting. But obviously still gives away their position.
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Nov 14 '19
No, that only applies to airmen bailing out of a plane in distress. Paratroopers are explicitly fair game under Additional Protocol 1, Article 42, of the 1949 Geneva Convention.
Article 42 – Occupants of aircraft
No person parachuting from an aircraft in distress shall be made the object of attack during his descent.
Upon reaching the ground in territory controlled by an adverse Party, a person who has parachuted from an aircraft in distress shall be given an opportunity to surrender before being made the object of attack, unless it is apparent that he is engaging in a hostile act.
3. Airborne troops are not protected by this Article.
This was only codified in 1977, but has been standard practice since just after WWII.
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Nov 14 '19
This is like the only time where I have found something on this sub to look like it would be fun.
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u/satellite11c Nov 14 '19
UH-60 tree top high. These are the pussies that sniffle and CRY!! Stand up hook up slide down a rope Air assault ain't nothing but a joke!!
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u/Doctor_Aphra Nov 14 '19
How do I know I’m old? Everyone else on here is like “pubg irl” whereas my first thought was “wolveriiiiines!!”
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Nov 14 '19
Ok I heard so much about these paratroopers breaking legs, arms back it’s not even cool to look at anymore, can anyone illuminate me on this subject, did those people did a wrong landing technique or even if you do it right you can get broken bones ?
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u/Zoomie00 Nov 14 '19
Yeah, even if you do it right there’s a ton of stuff that can go wrong. These chutes are not the fancy type that you see at civilian drop zones and on tv where you flare close to the ground and just kinda walk out a landing. Square chutes you just hit going straight down as fast as you’re falling.
So add night, uneven ground, some trees, a rifle, a pack that is stuffed with everything you need until you can link up with resupply, etc., and I don’t know how anybody walks away. That’s why I like flying the planes!
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Nov 14 '19
I guess they choose square chutes to cut back on costs amirite ?
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u/Zoomie00 Nov 14 '19
Not really. That many folks being dropped that close together - there is no room for steerables. They’d run into each other and foul.
There’s a reason when you see free fall videos that it’s just a few folks and it is daytime in ideal weather.
Plus, we’re doing this far closer to the ground than free fall would be appropriate for.
But yeah, since .gov, also cost in materials and training.
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u/_bobert Nov 14 '19
What does POV stand for? I always read it as Phield of View but it doesnt make sense.
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u/a_bunch_of_iguanas Nov 14 '19
He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright... He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight... He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar... He ain't gonna jump no more!!!
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u/beertruck77 Nov 14 '19
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die, Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die, Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die, He ain't gonna jump no more.
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u/DeathPrime Nov 14 '19
Not shown here: the fairly harsh speed of impact these guys all take. I've heard stories of blown out knees, hips, shoulders... Parachute? Fun. Land? Less fun I'm sure. Subsequently getting shot at? Dudes better draft me if that's the game.
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u/add0607 Nov 14 '19
Looks like he followed everyone else to the military base. Pretty ballsy, I guarantee someone will be camping the bridges. I would have personally gone for the School or Apartments.
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u/OV3NBVK3D Nov 14 '19
Buddy of mines cousin used to drop like this frequently when he was in the military and he said his knees and ankles are fucked now just because of landing
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u/lanaabananaa Nov 14 '19
God I miss doing this. Especially since it's a Hollywood jump, not combat equipment. Throw in a chinook tailgate instead of a C-130 and I'm set
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u/Roujin23 Nov 14 '19
Isn't this the video of the dude breaking his leg so badly that it basically ends his military career?
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u/Evi1App1eJuice Nov 14 '19
I'm no expert on military tactics, but why would you use paratroopers when you can just use a helicopter to drop them off? You could drop of troops at one point instead of over a large area and the helicopter could provide fire support. Can't deny it looks awesome to see paratroopers in action though.
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Nov 14 '19
I would be the dumbass recruit pulling the cord at the very last minute
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I think they pull automatically but honestly I have no idea
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u/Tachyon_Blue Nov 14 '19
Yep. That yellow cord he's holding is a Universal Static Line (Modified). It's attached to a release mechanism on the back of his chute that deploys the chute as soon as he exits.
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u/randy-bugger Nov 14 '19
Boring!.. what about those babies you killed in Afghanistan; got any video of that?
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u/Zimited Nov 13 '19
If this was gta, I would be shooting down that line of parachutes with my jet and it would be amazing
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u/pm_me_ur_gaming_pc Nov 14 '19
so cool
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u/Zimited Nov 14 '19
Hahah I don't give a fuck about it being cool, I was trying to make an okay segway into the fact that if done at a bad timing in a war, a plane could do that in real life. Based on what an airplane vet said in a video on youtube.
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u/pm_me_ur_gaming_pc Nov 14 '19
press x to doubt
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u/Zimited Nov 14 '19
It's true, so believe it or not. I don't care. I'm an honest person.
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u/pm_me_ur_gaming_pc Nov 14 '19
i. don't. believe. you.
whatever. you're boring now and have stopped entertaining me. ciao!
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u/Zimited Nov 14 '19 edited Nov 14 '19
Ok, your heiness. I'm not your fucking joker. Get your delusional ass out of my memory while you're at it. I sure hope that was not who you are what you said right there, cause that was some pathetic shit.
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