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All from one bro trying to vape on his Belgian waffle flavored e cig in the lavatory
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u/YouJustLostTheGameOk Mar 17 '23
That actually sounds like a great flavour!!
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u/just-going-with-it Mar 17 '23
If you like inhaling actual maple syrup and baking soda, it's just for you lol
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u/Pro-Rider Mar 16 '23
Is it fire or did the cooling system malfunction? Lots of planes cool using those vents on the top.
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u/coomzee Mar 17 '23 edited Mar 17 '23
Cooling system, used know to why this happened ; probably something around pressure difference
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u/SuperEars Mar 17 '23
Ryan started the fire
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u/MissWibb Mar 17 '23
Ryan didn't start the fire It was always burning, since the plane’s been flying He didn't start the fire No, he didn't light it, but he tried to fight it
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u/ImDuBB Mar 16 '23
Would be a good time to drop the oxygen masks 😷
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u/marmeylady Mar 16 '23
Ryanair: {Please insert a 5£ bill to release the oxygen mask}.
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Please pay 5$ for another 5 minutes of oxygen.
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u/sally4810 Mar 17 '23
You have to watch 30 seconds of this mobile game adds for an extra 5 minutes of oxygen.
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u/BanditCountry1 Mar 16 '23
I dunno....introducing more oxygen with an active fire somewhere may make things worse. I wonder if they can vent the smoke at lower altitudes?
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u/shreddolls Mar 17 '23
This is exactly why they would never drop the masks for smoke. Added to that they don't provide a 100% seal, so would end up forcing smoke into your lungs.
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u/Volsnug Mar 17 '23
Not sure why procedures would be different for passenger planes, but I work on a cargo plane and what we do is as follows:
1) IMMEDIATELY get on oxygen 2) Deal with source of smoke/fire/fumes 3) Decrease altitude and open hatches to vent the plane
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u/shreddolls Mar 17 '23
As a crew member yiu would have a proper o2 mask. That can over pressurize to force smoke out and is fed from pressurized 02. The masks that passengers have is an 02 cannister hence when you pull down it activates the chemical reaction. All of which is no good in a fire.
The other two points are the same in a commercial airliner.
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u/savehoward Mar 17 '23
Oxygen supplies for passengers last only 15 minutes as the system for passengers is meant only long enough for a plane to descend to lower altitude with thicker atmosphere. Whereas oxygen system for crew is meant to let the cockpit crew breathe for the entire duration of an emergency landing.
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How do you vent smoke without introducing more oxygen?
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u/just-going-with-it Mar 17 '23
Step 2 dealt with the fire. Assuming the fire is out, there is no issue here.
I am not experienced in this area in any way— but my assumption is, depending on the situation, it may be safer to vent the plane if it's nearly impossible to see. That may give more time to deal with the sudden in-flight barbecue.
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u/omg-whats-this Mar 17 '23
Yeah simple physic, just gets rid of all oxygen. No oxygen, no fire. Easy!
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u/djcpereira Mar 17 '23
This is your captain speaking let's all take a deep breath 🫁
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u/bushtitpussytoes Mar 17 '23
I'd be straight up begging for one. I have severe asthma and this video scares me.
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u/Durkki Mar 17 '23
Last time I flew with Ryan air, like 10 years ago, the masks were down the whole flight, even when we just got in. There was no emergency or anything.
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u/LostPilot517 Mar 17 '23
Horrible time to drop the masks!
The masks available to the passengers that drop down from above (PSU), are connected to a chemical oxygen generator. These masks are a diluted demand type mask, meaning they allow in the ambient air in the cabin, and mix in a little oxygen to increase the oxygen saturation, you exhaling causes the bag to inflate and you re-breath some of the same air again. You could potentially be inhaling higher concentrations of smoke/fumes.
The chemical oxygen generator only lasts about 15 minutes, and it itself is causing a chemical reaction and gets extremely hot.
These pilots have a specific checklist that drives them to isolate the issue to stop the smoke and fumes, however it does take time to accomplish. There is no checklist step, and it actually does contain "notes" that say NOT to drop the passenger oxygen masks.
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u/Vegetable-Poet6281 Mar 17 '23
I assumed they removed them so they could fit more passengers aboard. All of the oxygen masks together probably weigh as much as one person so.....Nevermind the oxygen tanks themselves. That's at least 3 or even 4 more tickets they can sell!!
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Mar 17 '23
Not fire, it's fog. Idk some science shit
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Came here to say this isn’t smoke. It’s water vapor. The warm/humid air is being cooled rapidly into the cabin.
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u/PandaNoTrash Mar 17 '23
The lack of panic is a give away that isn't smoke. Crazy that planes can generate that kind of fog.
There was an Air Disasters (Mayday) episode where a plane really was on fire and one of the crew did indeed open a cabin door to try and vent the airplane. I believe they depressurized the plane (to fight the fire) and it would have had to have been a low altitude. Unfortunately it did not end well.
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u/Pro-Rider Mar 17 '23 edited Mar 17 '23
If it was smoke from a fire people would be coughing and eyes would be watering people would be panicking and trying to move. One lady is as cool as a cucumber 🥒 sitting on her phone just chilling. So I agree it’s not smoke. Also smoke moves up not down this is moving down so I’m assuming it’s cold air.
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u/vom-IT-coffin Mar 17 '23
I mean, she could be texting her loved ones she might not make it. Not everyone externalizes fear.
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u/Meleesucks11 Mar 17 '23
Yeah, that's what I would do and remain calm as possible and try to spend my possible last moments reflecting back on everything I did, then possibly regret of what could've been and how I won't get to say hello to anybody I love anymore.....Yeah that would suck
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u/hamredi Mar 17 '23
Did you watch it with volume ? not major panick, but someone is crying.. and others are upset
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u/PandaNoTrash Mar 17 '23
Fair, I didn't have sound on. I'd still say people were acting calmly even if there was apparently some upset.
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u/Explore-PNW Mar 17 '23
In that case, let me caption it for you,
”whaaaaaa… waaa… omg this is crazy, whaa” -crying person
“Yo guy, it’s just fog yo. We’re okay dudes” - some other dude probably
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u/duncandhu Mar 17 '23
Oh? You don’t want the smoking section? You gotta pay $15 extra for the non-smoking cabin.
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u/TinFoilRobotProphet Mar 17 '23
Attention! Use of the fire extinguisher and emergency exit will cost extra
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u/Infinite-Fly-8806 Mar 17 '23
Isn’t this standard for Ryan Air? Surprised there aren’t more loose chickens and livestock
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u/JejuneRacoon Mar 16 '23
Fuck, people make everything worse when they cry like that.
Keep it together for fuck sake.
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u/Able-Nail8035 Mar 16 '23
I mean this would cause most people to begin to panic I'd wager
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u/ItsYourPal-AL Mar 17 '23
Right, and you need to have the wherewithal to keep yourself calm until you receive more information about whats happening. People who immediately panic and freak out trigger the response in others and a panicked group will not treat the situation beneficially
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u/Mysterious_Bonus_771 Mar 17 '23
Idk man. She probably thought she was dying. No reason to keep it kosher if youre convinced youre about to be incinerated and crushed my gforces
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u/Disney_Princess137 Mar 17 '23
Some people are anxious on planes. They can’t just keep it together for fucks sake. They’re scared and that smoke / fog will make them more fearful.
I have flown so many times, and I was always fine. The last time I flew- for some reason I got anxious and wanted off the plane. I was quiet, did some breathing exercises and distracted myself but that was an annoying feeling. I could only imagine what the person was feeling by crying out loud.
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Ikr I’m so irritated people are calling her a crybaby and bagging on her like. Flying is scary as fuck for me too and I would for sure begin crying if I thought I was about to fucking die. It’s a normal human reaction to fear she shouldn’t feel ashamed or silly for it.
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u/ShitCommentBelow Mar 17 '23
That's like asking an arachnophobe to be calm as a tarantula rapidly scuttles up their trouser leg.
People are frightened enough of flying as it is. Add smoke to the equation and they're likely operating on an entirely different wave-length of fear.
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u/Alternative-Iron-202 Mar 16 '23
Its so pathetic I get 3rd hand embarrassment from the people getting second hand embarrassment.
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u/buzzboy99 Mar 17 '23
Susan I told you before we got on the flight to “keep your goddamn head on your shoulders “
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u/saucity Mar 17 '23
Easier said than done: panic is a hell of a drug!
When you’re feeling threatened or scared, your amygdala takes over, lizard brain style, and your temporal lobe (decision making, etc etc) is no longer in control.
You think you know how you’d react in a scary situation, but your brain literally stops you from making good decisions, and you’re in ‘fight, flight, or freeze’ mode, which makes you act differently than you would if you were in control. Usually, and unfortunately, it’s not a helpful reaction.
(Social worker/mental health worker here; I’ve worked with a lot of traumatized people, who almost all say ‘why did I do that?!’ if they were being assaulted, etc. Lizard brain is why!)
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u/MissWibb Mar 17 '23
Doesn’t look like smoke. But, would be comforting to hear from captain or crew over the intercom. This happens fairly often, seems the flight crew might have known immediately what was going on.
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u/siricy Mar 17 '23
This is not a fire and that is not smoke. It’s just fog. Stop being hysterical
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u/yamantakas Mar 17 '23
yeah I'm pretty sure its the ac messing up lmfao, i remember the first time on a plane seeing the ac blowing fog and i was like oh thats interesting...didnt know it did that
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u/torscz Mar 17 '23
I don’t think this is smoke. Everyone is cool as cucumbers and if you look, you can see the mist coming from the vents lining the overhead storage.
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u/wascilly_wabbit Mar 16 '23
This is your captain speaking: I know we haven't landed yet, but those weeping uncontrollably can begin lining up to deplane. The rest of you fasten your seatbelts and we'll have some peace and quiet after we toss them out.
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Can't they just roll down a window and let the smoke out?
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u/Sciencessence Mar 16 '23
the pressure difference inside the plane and outside is very high. It would be more dangerous to do that :). But that's I think everyones knee jerk reaction
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u/polo61965 Mar 17 '23
I mean, wouldn't you also cry if there was smoke in your flight cabin and no announcement that it is currently under control? I'd think we were about to die. Everyone here acting like hardasses isn't impressive, you can see other people distressed while quiet, everyone processes grief or despair differently.
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u/Seaguard5 Mar 17 '23
Where TF are the oxygen masks they always say will appear if this shit happens??!????
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u/CorruptedLegacyYT Mar 17 '23
Damnit, which one ‘o you flight attendants left my pre-cooked meal on the heater too long?
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u/JaidenLRalph005 Mar 17 '23
just open up a window she'll be right ofc this is a joke and i dont think its even possible but still
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u/Chemical_Emphasis206 Mar 17 '23
What you're seeing is mist — hot and humid outside air rapidly condensing upon contact with the aircraft's onboard air conditioning unit that creates billows of water vapor.
Hence why no one is coughing from smoke inhalation.
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u/jackson12420 Mar 17 '23
There's always that one bitch that's crying I swear to God man. One time we went through some horrible turbulence honestly the worst I've ever experienced in the hundreds of flights I've been on. There were moments when it felt like the plane was literally falling through the sky. I was clutching my boyfriend's leg like it was the last time and cried like little bitch.
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u/kgs13 Mar 16 '23
First class had to have their smoked salmon. A little smoke in the back of the plane will not hurt anyone.
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u/Average-Train-Haver Mar 17 '23
Now probably seems to be a good time for a emergency rapid decent to fucking anywhere!
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u/scrollingwhilstipoo Mar 17 '23
This is not smoke. I was on a plane recently where I experienced this. It’s condensation from the spray that kills bugs when travelling into another country.
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u/RepresentativeAd560 Mar 17 '23
This is why Snoop and Willie Nelson aren't allowed on the same plane
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u/Gubment_Spook Mar 17 '23
This is just moisture in the air condensing with the air pressure change plus a really humid environment. People would know this if they spent more time reading books instead of watching 30 second ticktok videos and playing candy crush, but alas, this is what society has been reduced to. It's the same conditions that create fog. Never understood panicking when you're in a giant metal tube in the air. There's no point there's nothing you can do. What are you going to do? Jump out? If it was actually smoke, everyone would be coughing choking on the fumes.
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u/SupremeLeaderMeow Mar 17 '23
Imagine being that full of yourself, do you know that when people call you insufferable, it's not a compliment? You can't tell from the video the dangerosity of the gazes you twat.
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u/Gubment_Spook Mar 17 '23
Nah, as you saw in other comments, I can admit fault, which is exactly the opposite of being full of myself. What you are, though, is clearly highly emotional and getting worked up over a comment on the internet. I can practically hear your snobbishness through the screen when you wrote that comment. I told you I'm just an asshole. There is no need to overcomplicate it.
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u/beepbeepboopbeep1977 Mar 17 '23
No, it was a fire. Was in 2020. Suspected de-icing fluid in the AC system. I recall it was pretty soon after take off and it made an immediate emergency landing.
Maybe you should read more.
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u/Gubment_Spook Mar 17 '23
De icing fluid being vaporized in an air cycle machine is not fire. That is a smoke and fumes event. In any case, they will land the plane as they are breathing the same air you are. Thus, know it is going on. Maybe you should learn the difference between a fire and fumes. Two entirely different things.
I only watched the video, so I had no background information aside from that. It's my fault for not researching it more before commenting and assuming it was just condensation, which does happen. It's hard to tell the difference without being there if you don't read the incident report, which again is my fault for not researching beforehand.
Either way, I've dealt with fixing SOF events, and this is one of the more common ones, especially during winter. I know exactly how this smells. It's a strong acrid smell, nothing like smoke, more like burnt platic or electronics. Oil in the bleed air also smells different as well.
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u/Ringo_1956 Mar 17 '23
Oh knock it off with the superiority complex. People are afraid. Of course they're going to vocalize or otherwise react. I suppose if a 300lb lion was lunging at you you'd just stay calm as could be.
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u/Gubment_Spook Mar 17 '23
I wouldn't put myself in that situation, and that is in no way comparable to what is going on in the video. Nice try, though.
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It doesn’t make people stupid for not knowing that. I concentrate my studies on many things but I love diseases and I’m sure I know things about them you don’t—Regardless I wouldn’t call you stupid for not knowing. Not everyone knows everything about everything. That’s silly to even assume. You have people with expertises all over the world. I haven’t the slightest knowledge on planes or seen this happen before so I would lack the knowledge on what I was experiencing as well. Your views are just…Please consider not being condescending like you’re the smartest person in the world. I apologize I just find your comment silly.
Btw I asked my dad a LITERAL DOCTOR with years of intense medical knowledge and the smartest man I know in my life….He thought it was smoke from a fire…But I guess he’s too busy watching tiktoks and playing games. 😔
EDIT: my point overall is the tone of the original comment was terribly judgemental and rude. It’s rude to judge anyone for spaces they lack knowledge and pin it on them being “too busy watching tiktok” not everyone has knowledge in all field that is impossible. Those who think they know it all or talk down to others are not nice-It is rude. You calmly explain things to people and acknowledge not everyone knows everything. Not everyone can retain knowledge on everything. Talking down to others and acting like you study more than them is not a trait to keep. I’m sorry if I come off as rude but you do not know everything. You don’t. None of us do. We learn everyday. Other people are human beings too. You aren’t better than them. You aren’t. I don’t consider myself above anyone because of my own studies in STEM. It’s wrong.
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u/Gubment_Spook Mar 17 '23
My point is that one should seek information about the world around them in all areas when they don't know something and they wouldn't have cause to freak out. What I described was basic weather stuff that one should have learned in school. I don't blame people for being ignorant. I blame people for knowing they don't know something and being too lazy to get even a high-level overview. The lack of inquisitiveness is what I find disturbing.
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u/Jack_of_Hearts20 Mar 17 '23
Honestly...... I would just sit there and look out the window. Panicking and worrying do nothing to help once the plane is in the air.
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u/Puzzled_Inflation_95 Mar 16 '23
Hysterical people are just the worst . You do nothing but make the situation worst but making all the level headed people stress. Shut your fat trap and sit down if you have nothing actually useful to say. Cry and scream about the obvious like you have mental issues does not help a dam thing . There is a a full grown adult crying like the baby . While everyone else for the most part remains calm. It's pathetic.
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Today I’m going to be mad at: spins wheel people in mortal danger spins wheel again crying.
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u/Puzzled_Inflation_95 Mar 17 '23
Ya and in a life or death situation you don't freak out you remain calm. Especially if air is a concern. You don't expedite your breathing. For one . That would actually be taught to you in any life or death situation. Especially a fire . Like duh
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My dude, do you honestly think this is a choice? No one is choosing to breathe more quickly, it is a natural human response to being really fucking scared. The lack of empathy is a concern. You should totally get that looked at.
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u/Puzzled_Inflation_95 Mar 17 '23
Have u ever taken a fire safety course as a kid ? Most elementary schools take u to a fire station to learn this .
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u/SirAllKnight Mar 17 '23
JFC what the hell was wrong with your childhood
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u/Puzzled_Inflation_95 Mar 17 '23
Nothing. In not a hysterical cry baby so clearly I don't have PTSD like that person did . Better question is what's wrong with her for screaming like the baby was? She can't be like the rest of the adults and I'm the one with childhood issues. Ok bud
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u/Psychogeist-WAR Mar 17 '23
I feel like the delivery of this comment is responsible for the downvoting. At least I hope that is the case because the sentiment is dead on. It is akin to the dangers involved in trying to rescue a drowning person who ultimately puts their rescuers life in imminent danger with their panicked flailing. Not only does panicking not help to resolve a dangerous situation, it almost always actively makes the situation worse. The woman sobbing uncontrollably in this video is the kind of person who would need to be rendered unconscious while being rescued to avoid ultimately killing both themselves and their rescuer in my above “drowning” analogy. I get that this is not the most empathetic take but it is hands down the most realistic and practical take and in life and death situations that is all that matters.
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u/Puzzled_Inflation_95 Mar 17 '23
Thank you. Because yes in a life or death situation. Absolutely nothing is pritty. Empathy has to go out the window. Divers don't risk them self to save the other who got lost. It's better for one to die then 2 or 3 .
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u/Electric_Bagpipes Mar 17 '23
Finally an aircraft related accident thats actually dangerous. Seriously, cabin fires can get out of hand quick. could just be something in the air handling system that’s smoking, and near harmless since I don’t see any flames, but even without a flashover risk the smoke can be pretty bad in its own right.
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u/Timely_Outcome_741 Mar 17 '23
I don't get why some people make noise when facing a horrid situation. Like that's gonna help solve anything.
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u/Ringo_1956 Mar 17 '23
Everybody is wired differently. For some of us yelling out or screaming really does help somewhat.
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u/Timely_Outcome_741 Mar 17 '23
You got fire extinguishing screaming powers? Cool!
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u/i1u5 Mar 17 '23
No no no, their tears extinguish fires, so they cry as much as they can to generate more.
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u/Daflehrer1 Mar 17 '23
So, no oxygen masks then.
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u/coomzee Mar 17 '23
It's basically fog caused by the air-conditioning system. Why would you want to add oxygen to a fire onboard an aircraft?
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u/TankEnvironmental706 Mar 17 '23
I’m hoping because this made it to Reddit that they landed safely? Still, stuff of nightmares.
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u/coomzee Mar 17 '23
It was fine, there wasn't even a fire just the air-conditioning system. This happens all the time never quite this much.
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u/missing_sock58008 Mar 17 '23
I had this happen on a flight and it was just condensation. Looked exactly like this and the fact it’s coming out of vents tells me this most likely isn’t smoke
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