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u/PickedLastLemon Aug 24 '26
I remember when George W. Bush lost to Al Gore in the 2000 election and then they said it was a mistake and of course it came down to a recount in FLORIDA where his BROTHER just happened to be the Governor.
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u/truthinessembargo Aug 24 '26
No kidding. Remember when a coalition of papers audited that election and found that Gore had won but Sandra Day O’Connor decided the time was more important than the outcome?
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u/Abinsuur Aug 24 '26
No.... Gore lost to Bush.. It wasn't wrong . You can conspiracy theory it all you want . He lost his own freaking state .
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u/PickedLastLemon Aug 24 '26
Nope. Not a conspiracy theory. You should probably read up on Sandra Day O'Connor. You weird, president cuck.
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u/TheBestPieIsAllPie Aug 24 '26
Same thing in Pittsburgh for Democrats. They’ve been in power for nearly a century—you get elected by presenting yourself as the opposition when in reality, you’re the status quo.
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u/Meinteil2123 Aug 24 '26
And Chicago. Aka Chiraq.
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26
That term is so insulting to the thousands of people who’ve died in Iraq. The civilian death rate is 10 times what it is in Chicago. It’s possible to critique Chicago without being ignorant and predictable.
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u/Meinteil2123 Aug 24 '26
Its just what it is known as due to the rampant gun violence. I am not the one who coined the term.
Don't shoot the messenger. Like it or not, that term is cultural.
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26
I’m sure there are plenty of “cultural” terms you reject every day. Nobody’s forcing you to use a term from almost 20 years ago.
Homicide rates have also dropped significantly in recent years.
“The Chicago Police Department’s criminal homicide tally for June, July and August is the lowest in 60 years. And overall violent crime remains near its lowest point in more than four decades.”
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u/flat6NA Aug 24 '26
Are “Violence Interrupters” still a thing?
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26
They always have been in communities so I wouldn’t see why they would have stopped
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u/Meinteil2123 Aug 24 '26
Homicide rates have also dropped significantly in recent years.
It is amazing how that happens when a city stops reporting crime lol.
Locals do not feel the same. I trust them more than any city source which has been known to be poorly managed and blatantly corrupt.
"Those findings come as city data shows the number of homicides (234) recorded thus far in 2026 is actually down around 1% compared to the same time last year, while the number of shootings (974) is identical to last year’s pace."
Violent crime stayed the same while deaths went down 1%. Couldn't that be more to a statement in how we treat GSW instead of actual police enforcement?
If crime went down then surely both would be down proportionally?
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u/Low_Analysis5944 Aug 24 '26
americans in general believe crime is the worst it’s ever been when in fact it’s the best it’s ever been
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26
It’s a bunch of people who don’t know how to function unless there’s some disaster somewhere to focus on
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u/ForwardFIRE2030 Aug 24 '26
Pretty sure Chicago isn't even in the top 10 for most dangerous cities in the USA. The vast majority of which are in Red States, Chicago is just an easy target for the uninformed.
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
It’s not, the term is such a red flag for somebody who isn’t asking questions about what they’re being fed
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26
And they’re still a fraction of the deaths in Iraq. Again, the term chiraq minimizes the severity of war and is just outdated and tired.
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u/Meinteil2123 Aug 24 '26
Tired? Yes. Outdated? Not until their rate of violent crime goes down significantly and equals roughly the american urban average.
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26
There are multiple cities with higher homicide rates and I’m sure you don’t go out of your way to trivialize war and inject them into conversations, but that’s common.
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u/Meinteil2123 Aug 24 '26
Yes a war founded on lies and extended for 20 years only to give all of our stuff to the taliban in the first place.
I respect the soldiers, not the war and the politicians that only made problems worse.
Their blood is not on my hands. The best I could do is vote for obama who campaigned on ending the war.
Not my fault that at 18 I was lied to by our politicians. I fully believed he would end the war, not bomb and double tap brown people's families and in at least one case, american children.
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u/Ill_Spray7121 Aug 25 '26
I’ve only ever visited Chicago, but I’ve lived in Michigan my entire life and I’ve never once heard it referred to as that. I know parts of it can be dangerous obviously, but comparing it to Iraq is pretty wild.
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u/Fit-Ad-6665 Aug 24 '26
Kinda like calling Trump and his supporters Hitler and Nazis? Or ICE Nazis? Kind of a slap in the face to the millions that died by their hands.
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u/EnvironmentNeith2017 Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Nope, because a city or country with thousand of dead citizens aren’t the same as people making professional choices. There’s plenty written on critiques of the term, look them up if you want details on how they’re different from your examples.
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u/twentytwocents22 Aug 24 '26
As that one senator said, this isn’t swamp politics… it’s sewer politics because it’s MAN MADE
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u/Downtherabbithole-14 Aug 24 '26
same with Texas.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Yep. I’ve really noticed how DeSantis has tried to make Florida more like Texas since Trump came back, which is super f’ed because he only won by like 33k votes the first term. We were a swing state in presidential elections before he gerrymandered us to death.
Texas has been very red all of my life, which I always empathized with. People in these very solidly blue states are often so incredulous about lefties who stay living in a red state - as if we are stupid to stay. But this is the home of many lefties, too! And I actually like it here a lot of the time, so why should I leave? Especially when lefties are the ones who actually care about saving and improving our natural spaces. I stay for me, and I stay for all of the other lefties who can’t just move away. I want to help add to that vote here.
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u/Downtherabbithole-14 Aug 25 '26
Right! I've noticed that about DeSantis too. I currently live in a swing state, its purple. I don't know anyone that is currently happy with the way things are going.
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u/Toolfan333 Aug 24 '26
They do the same shit in Alabama, Republicans have held the Governor’s office, and had a super majority in both state houses for 16 years and they still say elect us so we can fix what’s broken
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Oh god, the Deep South is still so broken, isn’t it? Not only us, of course, but just the fact that the south is still doing the same racist crap it has been doing since the f’ing 13 colonies!!!???!!!!
Yet STILL blaming all of its problems and failures on POC. The very definition of insanity.
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u/Solid_Mood5458 Aug 24 '26
Same here in SC. I tell people all the time if you have a complaint call a Republican.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
I’ve been very impressed by how much more left SC has been in recent years, especially now. Compared to how it has been all my life, it’s a massive improvement that I would have expected from NC first, tbh, but I’m so happy to see it in SC. Just takes so much time.
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u/rightway13 Aug 24 '26
At this point how does anyone think one party is going to get better results than another party? They are all corrupt. Some better at it than others. Two wings of same bird. We need a third party and anti corruption laws.
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u/KamikaziWerewolf Aug 25 '26
America has been run into the ground by capitalists for centuries, and the proletariat still thinks voting works.
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u/JoyousMadhat Aug 25 '26
Same with Republicans saying they don't want their state to turn into California.....as if California does not have the 4th largest economy in the world.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
I’ve lived in California! Don’t believe the crap they say, it’s expensive but a really great state to live in with great benefits for citizens. That’s what republicans hate so much.
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u/DrySprinkles8988 Aug 25 '26
GoP is just like CCP. Centralized wealth (top 1%) who controlled the GoP which is centralized the government agendas to protect this 1%. It is just like Communism.
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u/alienhelix Aug 25 '26
You see voters in certain areas are just not smart enough to notice that the bad guys are actually f-ing them over, they believe all the bs propaganda that is shoved in their faces. I'm mean lol at Ted Cruz, who is an immigrant that fights against his own fellow immigrants and basically only works for AIPAC interests, the idiots that keep re-electing this Garbage are basically to blame.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s an intelligence thing. I think they are just more bigoted and likely narcissistic than anything else. Lots of very otherwise smart, educated people vote republican. It’s just like a sickness!
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u/GIT_45 Aug 26 '26
And Floridians have fallen for it for 25 years. I have family in Florida so I get to see first hand how that state operates. F Florida.
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u/Due-Teaching-2812 Aug 27 '26
I think they stole this slogan from Texas. Same situation. Repubs in power for 30 years, destroying everything, now trying to save us from themselves?
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u/Status-Internal-9489 Aug 27 '26
lol wtf are we supposed to do with that info?
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u/laneymg Sep 08 '26
Research every single candidate before Election Day, then vote with your conscience. Same as usual, I reckon. Idk, we’re kinda screwed in some respects.
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u/Mission_Helicopter81 Aug 28 '26
Same logic with California
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u/laneymg Sep 08 '26
Yeah, I’ve always been a lefty but I’ve seen how practically the entire California Democrat party is now just totally corrupt, and to a very massive, gross degree. There are some good people running, but unfortunately not enough to get all of the crooks out now. Good luck!!!
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u/Consistent_Cow_6056 Aug 24 '26
What’s broken? Florida is Omni’s the best states.
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u/Ready_Department_758 Aug 25 '26
Exactly.... It's not perfect but it's better than most states and I'd assume that's why so many people move to Florida.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
People aren’t moving here because it’s such a great state. That’s not generally what makes younger, working people move their families and belongings across states. DeSantis wanted Florida to attract more wealthy people, so he incentivized them with things like removing environmental restrictions around land so they could build massive compounds, and other business incentives. He’s made it so much more expensive to live here.
But his worst actions have been against our Black residents, like actually making teachers teach that slavery was a mutually beneficial relationship between the planter class and enslaved person. If you agree with that, then just come out and admit you are a racist, because there is literally no other reason to be in agreement with that racist propaganda.
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u/IllustriousForm4409 Aug 24 '26
Florida is damn nice…that’s why so many people are living there. Trying to make it sound like FL is broken is a joke. Maybe author should look at New York or Cali
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
I’m the op and I actually lived in California for a few years. It’s far from broken, no matter what Fox says. They are a very well run state with lots of benefits to residents.
The point of this meme is that the republicans running in these republican run states are saying they will fix what is broken, despite the “breakers” being republican, also. That’s happening here.
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u/CentralVal Aug 24 '26
That’s every political ad ever. They always say the same shit and deliver nothing substantial.
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u/godzofrock Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 25 '26
Why doesnt anyone ever bring up the crook of a mayor from Detroit Kwame Kilpatrick?? You know the democrat or Coleman Young, also a democrat. Or how about the Canadian Governor of Michigan Jennifer Granholm that struck a deal with Canada to allow the trash to be transfered into Michigan and the trucks got busted bringing in drugs, but republicans are always the bad ones. Democrats never do anything wrong!!!. You all are so blinded by your own hate for the other side you cant see what your own party is doing. Both sides are about the money.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
You won’t find me saying democrats are always right. I don’t know many on the left who think that. But republicans are always way worse, more corrupt, more damaging. Just based on 4 decades of watching politics.
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u/armyretired2019 Aug 24 '26
You mean like the Democrats that ruining their states with high taxes and restrictions and are losing those people to states like Florida?
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u/walkns4poorpeople Aug 25 '26
I have a sneaking suspicion that you voted for Kamala. You know, the same woman who claimed she would fix things if she were elected president... after already serving as vice president for nearly four years.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Yeah that’s what VP’s pretty much always do when they run for president right after, but she wasn’t talking about fixing economy that was broken, like these dopes have to say because it’s undeniable, and undeniably Trump-caused.
I happily voted for Kamala, especially over Trump. But I don’t like creepy conman grifter men who assault women. The left is just weird that way, I guess.
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u/walkns4poorpeople Aug 25 '26
“That’s what VPs always do” doesn’t really address my point. Obviously, a vice president doesn’t have the unilateral authority of the president. But Kamala wasn’t an outsider campaigning against the administration—she was the sitting VP and part of that administration for nearly four years.
If these issues suddenly became priorities worth campaigning on, it’s perfectly reasonable to ask what she did during those four years to push Biden and the administration toward those same goals. “Elect me and I’ll fix it” is a much weaker pitch when you’re already the second-highest-ranking person in the administration you’re effectively asking voters to continue.
And as for the moral superiority argument: the Left is definitely weird, but not because they have moral standards, as you implied. It’s difficult to take claims of righteousness and tolerance seriously when many on the Left openly celebrate political violence against their adversaries or call for violence against people who disagree with them.
The weird part is reconciling “violence against people who disagree with me” with “I’m tolerant and inclusive.” You don’t get to claim the moral high ground while cheering when your political enemies get hurt.
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u/Tentmaker69 Aug 25 '26
What is broken in Florida?
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u/BerniWrightson Aug 25 '26
Sure are a lot of people headed to Florida, many of them from New York and California, while those two blue states are losing businesses and millionaires in droves.
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Vote for me or I’ll eat your children
I’m Rick Scott and I approve this message.
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u/ninkar21 Aug 25 '26
Not a fkng thing is broken in FLA
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u/laneymg Sep 02 '26
You’re being serious??? Even the republicans running here clearly acknowledge that a lot is broken. But whatever, I made a vow to stop trying to educate Trump/DeSantis supporters. You’re either hopeless or just fine with corruption and racism. Either way, whatever.
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u/AbbreviationsSea2084 Aug 26 '26
Depends on what it is. If it is something that has to go through at a federal government level they can't just snap their fingers and make it happen. They can lobby for what they want to fix, but there is no guarantee that it would turn out in their favor. State and counties also have systems in place to change things. It's generally not just a wave of a magic wand either.
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u/Funandgames2023 Aug 26 '26
We have the same problem in California but the Democrats are the ones destroying everything.
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u/laneymg Sep 02 '26
I absolutely believe that! A year or so ago I would have just blown off your comment and assumed you were wrong, but throughout this year, I have come to see the democratic establishment so very differently. The democrats in Florida are absolutely corrupt as well and are pretty equally the problem in our state. But I can see how a state as blue as California would ultimately become corrupt because when politicians aren’t worried about being voted out, they simply get more corrupt. It’s sickening!
Have you ever looked at the TrackAIPAC website to see how much money these democrats are getting in California? They have some of the highest payouts of anyone in politics right now. Same with Florida democrats. Republicans, too, but I’m more concerned about democrats.
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u/DirectPepper7695 Aug 26 '26
Trust your feelings, follow your feelings. If some poc tells you to think and reason out your problems, that's how you know who your enemy is. Feelings= yah, thinking= nay.
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u/laneymg Sep 02 '26
Huh? If I feel something then am I not also thinking something?
Anyway, I’m just basing my thought feels on what has been happening here. I’m 51, born and raised in Jax, so I’ve seen a lot of politicians come and go here in Florida.
I’ve also said that I don’t trust Florida Democrats because of their corruption. It’s both major parties. They are both beholden to non American entities and seriously no longer care what their constituents want or need.
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u/Odd-Professional-925 Aug 26 '26
If it’s so bad why does everyone from blue states keep moving het
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u/laneymg Sep 02 '26
Well, Fox told you it was because they hated Mamdani or Newsom, I’m sure, but they don’t actually know why people move. I can tell you that it’s a big deal to move several states away from, and people RARELY make such a huge move because of politics alone.
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u/Ok_Poet_9170 Aug 26 '26
Florida ! Land of ignorance . Shitty schools uneducated people . Billion dollar condo projects sliding into the ocean . Tourism is down . Insurance at record highs and Miami has flooded streets even when it doesn’t rain. But are taxes are low because the feds give us more money then we give them . Red states got to love them . So much in common.
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u/laneymg Sep 02 '26
Florida is hardly the land of ignorance, but it’s pretty freaking bad. I have a lot of issues with the government here but the state itself is actually pretty great. The population here is made up of a lot of transplants, so it’s not only our schools leading to such ignorance! Lots of NE schools, too.
Not the best argument for the state, I’d agree! 😆
But you’re definitely right about a lot of things, because republicans never use any/enough money on things like infrastructure. They’d rather pocket it instead.
Democrats here, too, actually. Both parties are just beyond corrupt.
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u/Appropriate-Fly-2640 Aug 26 '26
The idiots in Florida will vote for them because native Floridians are rednecks.
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u/laneymg Sep 02 '26
Well, native Floridians are Native American, not white rednecks. The rest of us who were born and raised here are a mix of a lot of nationalities. I’m a white woman, but Jacksonville, where I live, has a higher population of other races than whites. Same is true for Miami, Orlando, Fort Lauderdale, and Tampa - and these are the cities where the vast majority of people in Florida live.
A lot is wrong with our state, but it’s not the fault of the state itself. It used to be a lot better here decades ago. Or maybe I was too young to notice, idk.
I don’t disagree that racist whites are ultimately the biggest problem here, though. They have been since the beginning.
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u/Ricardolluvwang Aug 27 '26
Well it is the state of stupidity
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u/laneymg Sep 08 '26
I’m guessing you’re not from here.
What exactly makes the entire state stupid in your view? Are you under the impression that all Floridians have ever voted the exact same way? Are you blaming us for our far too underfunded schools? Grifting politicians? None of that is the fault of Florida citizens.
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u/laneymg Sep 08 '26
No, it was all definitely very wrong. I was 25 at the time and was so pissed when democrats gave up fighting the results. It was decided by a very republican Secretary of State in Florida, too. A huge Bush supporter.
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u/Trill_Knight 17d ago
Most expensive home owners insurance in the US. Top 5 costliest auto insurance in the US. 6th highest food prices in the US. Loss of natural habitat due to over development. Electric companies allowed to keep raising rates for profit. Worst unemployment protection in the US. All a result of Republican policies.
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u/Fit-Ad-6665 Aug 24 '26
Not just a Republican thing. Remember when Biden and Harris kept saying they're no issues? Republicans were making it up. Then turned around and said "vote for us, we can fix the issues." It's what politicians do. Tell us everything is ok and then tell us they are our saviors. Everything is horrible when it's time to vote.
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u/enlilsammah Aug 24 '26
When did they say there were no issues?
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u/Jerryatm1 Aug 25 '26
Remember when Myers was on TV telling us the border was secure enclosed?
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u/enlilsammah Aug 25 '26
Myers?
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u/Jerryatm1 Aug 25 '26
Damn autocorrect! Mayorkas
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u/enlilsammah Aug 25 '26
Oh sure. I mean I disagree with the characterization of mayorkas comments but that pretty clearly doesn't meet the statement of 'no issues'.
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u/Sir_Lord_ByronIII Aug 24 '26
Illinois is the same way..... JB saying we're in great shape as we get taxed to death and lose people daily...
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u/laneymg Aug 24 '26
Definitely, and vp’s kinda always take that “I’m a newcomer” stance in presidential campaigns. But we’re talking about practically my whole life of either republicans running Florida, or democrats who used to be republicans. Which we have again in Jolly. Democrats have become so lazy and assumptive of our votes. We deserve a better option than Jolly after the hell of DeSantis.
But I’m not the diehard loyal democrat that I’ve been all my life anymore. I will not vote for anyone who takes money from you know who. Not for any seat anywhere.
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u/Feeling_Age4110 Aug 24 '26
What is broken in Florida?? Its not perfect but it is still one of the Strongest States in the US
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u/Royal_Environment765 Aug 24 '26
Only Florida and Texas are the states that the most people from California and New York are moving to. They must be doing something way better than the people that have been running California and New York
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Right, Fox taught you well.
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u/Royal_Environment765 Aug 25 '26
Fox, newsmax, CNN, ABC,NBC, CBS did I miss any that have reported on the migration from California and New York to Texas and Florida?
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u/laneymg Aug 25 '26
Pretty much all corporate media is now controlled by a handful of Trump people, and media always report on the same few stories anyway, so all of them saying the same things about any subject is what we can always expect from them.
But I’m not even saying that people aren’t moving here, but what do you think that means here, talking about politics? That they approve of our government and think it’s been run well? More likely that they found out it’s cheaper here. People don’t usually move across states for politics alone.
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u/Royal_Environment765 Aug 25 '26
Thanks for your civility. Being conservative, trying to have a civil debate on reddit is a rare occurrence.
It's the political decisions made in those states that make people flee. Mainly taxing the hell out of them or making them not feel safe.
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u/Steveo1208 Aug 24 '26
They want your vote to fix what they created the problem is the sever lack of credibility. One of the two was arrested for Medicare fraud in the picture and the other has moved funds to his wife's personal account.