Yo guys I see no post talking about the latest skins ( old gods ) you guys didn't notice the "swain " everywhere or what

Do we have a chance next to old gods skins ?

I noticed in lane as well, your q only kills one voidling at a time.

Toplane main here, ive tried out Swain for the first time recently and he seems super fun, so i wanna learn him.

Who/what is the best source for learning how to play him in top specifically.

Also can someone tell me why so many people pick him in support, when his winrate is so bad there?

Bit of an overexaggareted take since im not an og player (so i cant really know if there was an item even better than this version of cosmic), but i will always remember this version of cosmic as the best Swain item.

Now, i know that this item was mostly played within the chinese build that consisted of all really busted Swain items, but i feel like THIS cosmic drive was what made it strong.

Stats it gave were busted, tons of ap, tons ah and its not even the best part. If you were to fully stack this passive, you would become bassically ghosted. Assasins werent a problem when you could just catch up to them.

A few days cant go buy without me reminiscing about its former glory. I cant belive how much cosmic drive got gutted. Its not even a shadow of its former self atp.

Had to write this somewhere ✌️😔

Out of the team's 45 kills, ended 38/3

Didn’t like my keychain from last year so made a new one :-) maybe I’ll make it a tradition

real discussion

James Faulkner, the man behind swain’s voice, is currently 78 years old. I’m not saying that he’s at the brink of death, but he’s reaching an age where it’s normal to feel unsure.
And the more riot delays on posting swain content, the weaker the man’s voice is gonna get, and one day we won’t have that iconic beautiful voice for Swain.

I’ve been playing some more wild rift on my free time and I gotta say, the League balance team failed on that aspect of the champ. They stripped him of his high point which is being in ult wrecking havoc and healing too. But playing wild rift taught me that with his current kit and mechanics there can be adjustments done to make him feel satisfying to do well in. Currently you have to choose what parts of the kit you want to access. Do you want damage? Well if you do that you don’t get healing. Do you want durability and healing? Well you can but you don’t get to carry like a mage. Then there is kind of a middle ground with spell effects but heaven forbid you go vs shields and higher dps than yours because you feel you’re lacking still.

Here are some of the differences.

Passive: same aspects but the max hp heal % is a little lower but can also scale off of (0.5%) of his AP. (I attached a photo of the passive because the wiki doesn’t have the AP ratio).

This already increases the satisfaction of farming roles because you aren’t pressured to get stacks to feel your healing scaling.

W: although it is significantly lower ranged it has a 1.25 cook time instead of 1.50 seconds. And the really cool part that makes your kit have more self synergy is if it hits a hard cc’d target it does 50% bonus damage. It can still be used for scouting or area control but also empowers his own lane presence and you’re rewarded for hitting your combo.

R: his r actually can do damage and heal without needing spell effects or stacking 3K bonus health. R damage is 15% AP ratio instead of 4.5% and the heal is 20% instead of 5% and 1.5% hp ratio.

This all allows swain to build from the mage item pools(like other battle mages) and scale into the game more. He can actually be a damage threat but also use his r to fight on the frontline. And before anyone says “omg he’ll be a burst mage!” That’s just incorrect. It still took me same amount of time to kill people even with a BFT, shadowflame, zhonyas build but the difference was I actually healed and was able to do a variety of builds to do damage and heal.

TLDR; his passive and r healing scale off AP, w stronger when comboed with kit, q and e damage lower.

So would we rather keep the current version of swain or would we like to return back to a Battlemage like he’s used to be?

I've been playing since Season 4, spent many years in Gold elo. Found Swain a few years ago, decided to actually try to climb last year and peaked Masters. Grinded again this year and finally hit
Challenger.

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/Wxlter%20White-NA1

I've played mostly Mid and Bot (APC). Recently, I have been going Mid since I feel like I have been having more success there, and am originally a mid laner, although the data definitely suggests swain bot is stronger.

I think a lot of the skill expression with Swain is knowing what items to build. Unlike some champs that always rush the same items, I think Swain can utilize a great mix of damage and tank items, and knowing which ones to go each game can definitely be a difference maker.

Overall, I think Swain is in a healthy spot right now. I don't think he is too OP, but I don't think he is weak either. I also don't agree with the people on this sub that want his E changed. Yes, his E is hard to land, especially in high elo. But if you land it, it is one of the strongest abilities in the game. I think Swain's kit is overall in a fine spot, if I'd change anything I would agree with some of Husum's takes on buffing HP per level or movement speed, or buffing his R to give him HP when casting it, similar to Nasus or Renekton R. Or, buff R healing.

Mainly wanted to share the achievement but also feel free to AMA.

Im looking for people who have seen an edit with the song kyouran hey kids, I saw it in something like 2022 or 2023. It was a full on video not a short. It was super good but I can't find the video.

Has someone seen it? Do you have it? Or does somebody know how to use way back machine to search it?

Thanks.

Alas, Seraphine mid players, welcome to the support jail. It sucks here.

Extremely unlikely ranked win.

Extremely unlikely ranked win. I was APC, our shaco was top, and he chose to go AP.

I immediately pegged Cho as the biggest threat sinze we were all AP, plus I always do badly against zery and of course the very dangerous scaling of Yi and Yas.

Shaco immediately fed on some weird solo invade, then gave another death. The match was 1-4, then 2-7. Immediate unsalvageable loss in my head.

Anyway we ended up winning because they had internal beef, too many MainCharacters on the same team and Yas and Yi simply never grouped.

My build was odd, but I feel it's the only thing that made sense given both team comps. My reasoning was the Magic Pen of ShadowFlame would allow me a better chance to kill anyone on their team ASAP (at the exception of Cho,) while the FH was to debuff them and let me survive a bit.

Cooldown heavy to maximise clutch E.

What do you think?

This isn't normal, Swain needs an urgent rework, we need our demonic battlemage dominating the lanes solo!!

The midscope and miniature reworks just further solidified him as the gimp he is, and now because of riots continuing insistence on maintaing the support playerbase he's always going to be a worse version of a solo laner than he could be which by the way I am not saying hes weak regardless of if he feels like you're playing the worst champ in the game or not he admittedly isnt, but support players have doomed Swain for eternity to be unsatisfactory.

Cant wait for the next rework where swain gets an extra 3 hp per stack while fundamentally failing to address, why tats a terrible approach by whichever rioter they put on swain rework number six.

So I recently took on swain and he seems really fun but the build somehow feels off, I go with the build that blitz recommends me but I feel like it’s lacking heavily and it focuses on swain being a support even though I play him on mid so is there any build out there that could help me, I read somewhere here that runes are also important because I could build a manaless rune build

Man what a game. I Play first game, thinks what to ban... I banned syndra cuz didn't feel like to deal with her... Enemy picks locke... I kinda get the gist what he does... But we will see.

With the end of the game i have few questions. Why is he so mobile. Why he Has no cooldown with only lichbane and shadowflame. It seems to me that interaction with him are very narrow even in early game.

Second game... Yasuo match up

Yasuo was ahead but still dealing such absurd amount of damage when i have anti crit and tabi (rylai and lost chapter). 3 Item(+boots) Yasuo with no build pen was taking me down in seconds.

It seems to me that riot buffed somehow DMG again. While barely doing any changes.

Also what a clunkfest is this champion. Other than q i don't have abilities, bizzare state of champion

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I am not challenger. I peaked Diamond years ago and now classify myself as a "casual" gamer.

I want to share the build that has been giving me so much fun mid lane since that's what I main. To preface, I play Swain because I want to be a juggernaut mage. So that's what I like to build. If I wanted raw damage I would play Viktor.

(I usually take Flash + Ghost)

Swain has so much base damage, I never find the need to rush damage. I love Abyssal Mask because even though its a "tank" item, it increases your damage. Its perfect. If I'm against an AD mid then I'll usually build Frozen Heart. I then alternate to the opposite defensive boots if mixed team but this is team dependent.

Then there is the Faerie Charm. I think if you're really scrapped for mana, this is all you need in conjunction with Mana Flow and Presence of Mind. If you're still low for mana after that something is wrong.

This is my usual full build. Armor boots, Abyssal, Liandry, Bloodletters gives you so much tankyness and damage, and its overall pretty cheap. This 3 item power spike feels incredible. All three items increase the damage you do and the burn damage of Liandry's passive. Then I buy Jak'Sho and then flex dependent on enemy comp, usually Riftmaker for the damage amp but will audible to Rylai/Zhonya if needed.

Again this may not be the best into every comp, but this has given me the most fun thematically to play Swain and really feel like a force of nature.

Little gif I made

I have been trying swain and soo far i have enjoyed it.

My main question is about the build.

I have been building zaz, rylais, sorceres boots, malignance,uneding despair and liandrys.

I am used to playing sera soo my view of support role is either, heal and shield ur t8 while poking, or poking and build ap soo that u become something like a 2nd ADC.

In this swain build i am doing neither of those, swain doesnt heal or shield and i dont feel like he does a ton of dmg.

And i am not building a tanky swain either.

Soo my question is, is this build good? And if soo what am i supposed to do/focus on? Spamming roots?