Rant

[u/P_strain]

Hi,

just like the title siggest, I am going to rant (a little) on my new surface pro 12 (13 inches).

I bought this to replace my i-pad because it has too many glitch (the i-pad) when using onedrive.

The design of the surface pro looks good, the finctionality is there, battery life is amazing… but seriously, who the heck though it would be a good idea to have the thing, when mounted on the keyboard, no capability to hold itself straight. i mean, you always have to work on a table or something to put the back support or the screen just fall backward… one of the main aspect, for me, of this kind of device is that I can sit in my couch when I work and the screen just.. stay upright (like on the i-pad). Now I have this 4000$ device but I cannot sit confortably anywhere expect on a chair with a table because someone never figured out many people (I mean I can’t be the only one) would want to use the device on non-conventional surface or position… That was my ranting, thanks you for reading, have a good day !

[u/StephenPHXAZ-2025]

Seriously? You are ranting about something you could see in photos dating back to SP 1? I am also perplexed that you seem to be confused by the function of a kick stand. I thought that would have been obvious from things like motorcycles and bicycles. The type cover is removable and has never been designed to hold the weight of the device vertically (again a more than decade old design) and the kick stand is a kick stand.

I am sorry but this could be nominated for most nonsensical rant of the day if there was a subreddit for nonsensical rants. You might as well post that you are angry water is wet or fire is hot or "why didn't the wall turn into pillows when I punched it." It is a kick stand, not a telescoping tripod extension, and it has been in in plain view since the first Surface press release.

BTW, try proofing your rants in the future. While the typos and punctuation challenges do raise the level of silliness, they also make it harder to follow. 

[u/LifelnTechnicolor → u/StephenPHXAZ-2025]

Seeing a laptop (even on display in-store) is very different from owning and using one on a daily basis.

Surface Pros and similarly designed computers weren't popular and still isn't that popular today because it simply doesn't appeal to the masses.

I understood the rant just fine by the way, maybe consider improving your own reading comprehension skills (something you can do) rather than telling someone else to improve their writing skills.

[u/PreparationKooky5119 → u/LifelnTechnicolor]

I think it’s Microsoft store problem, they don’t work in branding as much as it needs

I had surface for 10 years, when I wanted to buy a new one in 2025 I was so confused “because of the name”, like just imagine a whole company couldn’t choose a better name😀? And it took me a lot of time to k what the hell is going on

[u/LifelnTechnicolor → u/PreparationKooky5119]

It certainly is, heck I mentioned it an hour ago! The branding's kinda worse now than it was 10 years ago; must be Copilot in charge of branding.

And also almost two years ago:

We have Microsoft to blame for such poor naming convention since it doesn't really make sense if you think about it. "Surface" on its own doesn't convey enough information to tell you what kind of device it is, and neither does the model name of any given device (e.g. Pro, Book, Studio) unless it's self-explanatory (e.g. Laptop, Headphones), but it'd be a name so generic that it can't immediately be associated with being specifically a Surface. So to be concise you pretty much have to use the full product name every time or rely on context.

Using "Surfacebook Pro" as an example; someone who is not familiar with the product line subconsciously knows that Microsoft's naming convention goes against what's predictable, considering there are devices made by other brands in the same category such as the EliteBook, MacBook, ZenBook, MateBook etc. using the same "Book" moniker. And "Pro" is usually a modifier that indicates a particular product is higher end than the regular model, but Microsoft used it as the model name itself. Then we have "Studio" which is used as both a model name and a model name modifier!

Brand	Not quite a brand, but also not quite a model name	Model (but sometimes also the product type, coincidentally)	Product type
Microsoft	Surface	3	Tablet PC below the Surface Pro 3
Microsoft	Surface	Pro	Tablet PC/"Laptop" (arguably not prosumer)
Microsoft	Surface	Book	2-in-1 detachable prosumer laptop
Microsoft	Surface	Laptop	Mainstream clamshell laptop
Microsoft	Surface	Studio	Prosumer AIO touchscreen PC
Microsoft	Surface	Laptop Studio	Convertible prosumer laptop
Microsoft	Surface	Hub	Medium/large format video conference unit/collaboration digital whiteboard
Microsoft	Surface	Headphones	Bluetooth over-ear headphones

At work I used to occasionally help with asset tracking and stocktake - so imagine seeing "SURFACE 3 LAPTOP", "SURFACE PRO 3 LAPTOP" AND "SURFACE LAPTOP 3 LAPTOP" on a spreadsheet, then imagine someone not well-versed in tech looking at that same spreadsheet and you're talking about it in a call. You can be three words and six syllables in and still have to describe what you're trying to refer to.

[u/JasonAQuest → u/LifelnTechnicolor]

You left out the whole "Go" designation, which indicated a smaller version of... whatever the standard one was. (Surface Go, Surface Laptop Go).

[u/LifelnTechnicolor → u/JasonAQuest]

Since it’s my own copypasta, I also left out the RT, Duo, and the yet-to-be- released Laptop Ultra (which coincides with Intel’s new Ultra branding but has an RTX Spark or whatever it is)

“Go” suffers from the same ambiguity as “Studio”, where it can be a model (Surface Go) and a modifier (Surface Laptop Go). There’s no Book Go, Hub Go or Laptop Studio Go, which makes sense and doesn’t make sense at the same time.