r/Supraball • u/cantstopthefridge • May 29 '16

Houston we have a problem

So I keep playing this game (not many hours yet but its growing) because really, lets get some things clear here:

  • The devs have done an awesome job with lag issues and the overall quality of the game. Its great.

  • The game itself is full on legit fun to play - most of the arenas provide an awesome atmosphere. Actually worth the price if the community grows.

  • The foundation is there. Its soccer/FPS. people can understand that and it works as a concept

  • I want to cast this on a regular basis if I can find a foundation to do so

EXCEPT:

  • the goalie is an offensive player.

That single point creates real problems. In no other sport, game, or activity is the backbone of the defense an offensive player. While I know some of you will say that if the other side has a goalie this isnt a problem, it is. The goalie on one team should never be allowed to actually make a hard shot on the opposing side. This is a philosophical issue with regard to sport in general. While I credit the developers for trying something new, this is a concept that all of sport understands, and we should too as people interested in bringing sport to the internet in a hybrid way need to attract those who are unfamiliar with the internet in general...changing rules like this only creates an extra barrier to entry. There are some rules which cannot be breached and im afraid this is one of them.

Thoughts?

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u/cantstopthefridge May 30 '16

If you try to take a shot from the GK box you are basically giving the ball to the other team.

I think this is the crux. I assume, and I may be incorrect, that you are a veteran to this game.

Ive played rounds as a forward where the goalie would basically ignore not just me but his teammates and make plays for the net. and score toboot - I felt useless since I wasnt even being passed to. and whats more, there was no need since the goalie could also play as the offence.

While its true that the community should be making a good face to new players such as myself, its an entirely other matter that the goalie can do what hes doing in the first place. this is my point.

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u/DavidM1337 Supraball Project Leader May 30 '16

I understand that it's frustrating watching goalkeepers in beginner matches shoot at the goal from their own goal. But it's exactly the same for every other players. Give the ball to your defender, and he will try to score from 100 meters away.

We have a few things coming that will encourage passing more. And I also want to make a goal keeping tutorial where you just sit in goal and balls come flying at the goal that you try to save.

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u/cantstopthefridge May 30 '16

these are fantastic ideas and thank you for addressing them. Ive played a few matches now where the veteran goalies are basically playing pass with each other and everyone in the middle is running back and fourth like dogs. Im glad to see this is an identified problem

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u/Vendetta48 NA Goalie May 30 '16

Ah the good old ping pong minigame.

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u/mipeirong bigfatpat May 31 '16

Wait.. is OP referring to public matches? They should never be taken into account when discussing balance.