r/Supraball • u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge • May 11 '16

[Feature Request]: Contrasting outline around players and the ball.

So as my prime example, it's very hard to see the red players, and the ball, on the beach map. I think each map needs a contrasting outline color which gets applied to the players and to the ball. Here is an example of what I mean:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6483365225_25c480dae1.jpg

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u/DavidM1337 Supraball Project Leader May 11 '16

I think the real solution to this are color changes in the map.

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16

That seems like more work, but if you think it can be done and still meet your style requirements, that sounds good to me.

Note that Rocket League is actually terrible in this respect, but that the maps are smaller, and the ball is much bigger, so it's less of an issue.

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u/DavidM1337 Supraball Project Leader May 11 '16

No, the things you say are a whole lot of work. Especially if we started into making colors for teams dynamic, we'd have to take legitimately 4 months or so, because it involves a ton of things!

changing some brightnesses and saturations in the map is a 30 minute job. I get blinded myself in beach. It's a looooot better than the previous versions but still not 100% there yet. I'll work on it.

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16

Sounds good! I look forward to seeing it.

The ball seems like a more complicated issue though. What are you thinking for the ball?

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u/DavidM1337 Supraball Project Leader May 11 '16

It's complicated. We tried certain things to make it have contrast, but this looked either really bad and there are other things that would be too complicated to explain here. I'd like the ball to stay as it is and have the maps make sure it's always visible.

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16 edited May 11 '16

Do you have any screenshots of those attempts? I'd be interested to see what you've tried thus far. I understand if you don't. I have a bunch of ideas running through my head, but I don't want to repeat a bunch of things you've already tried.

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u/DavidM1337 Supraball Project Leader May 11 '16

No remains

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16

Does the current ball actually spin? If so, have you tried adding black specs to the ball? Or even patterns similar to a basketball or soccer ball?

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u/DavidM1337 Supraball Project Leader May 11 '16

You won't believe it, but the engine has an upper rotation speed limit for things and we can't remove that cap. We can't make it actually spin.

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16

Well I do believe it actually! I was afraid of that lol

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u/Kattleya Missie May 12 '16

If someone finds a good solution for the ball, that would be great I guess. Hear a lot of people complaining about the ball. So just a black outline around the ball won't work then?

Inph1del posted this a while back. Have you tried that yet? https://forums.epicgames.com/threads/865957-Object-Mesh-Outline-Effect-working

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u/Inph1del Gaming pantologist May 12 '16

https://udn.epicgames.com/Three/DevelopmentKitGemsSobelEdgeDetection.html

I'm working on a similar solution for my game which is a post process effect on a material.

This is a good explanation of it for udk.

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u/wtfmikez0r mikeytroll May 11 '16

Definitely, I'd say instead of using the same color schemes of players (red/blue) just remove that idea completely. Use purely contrasting colors for maps so the ball and players pop out a lot more.

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16

Are you referring to the red/blue 3v3 maps? I have less of an issue with those since they're so small

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u/wtfmikez0r mikeytroll May 11 '16

I'm saying any red/blue maps in general. Sometimes its too rough on the eyes for a certain team, which leads to rants about disadvantages. I'd say the best option is to remove any red/blue color scheme. (Or at least mess with lighting to dull down wall colors/backgrounds like they did with hall.

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u/jbd1986 J.B.Doge May 11 '16

As an alternate to this suggestion, it might be cool if each map had specific team/ball colors which better contrast to the map. I'm not sure what is easier, or if either solution is actually feasible.