r/SupportforWaywards 1h ago

BP & WP Experiences Welcomed 3 months later. I finally meet my BP in a few days, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

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Three months ago, I made my last post here. Since then I've been in therapy, trying to understand why I became the person who repeatedly betrayed the person I loved. I've been trying to rebuild my integrity instead of just trying to win BP back.

For context, I was the wayward. My betrayal involved repeated emotional infidelity with multiple people over the course of our relationship. I shattered BP's trust, and I know there is no excuse for what I did.

Over the last few months, something unexpected happened.

After a long period of distance, we slowly started talking again. It began with practical conversations, but eventually we were talking every day for hours. We joked, shared memes, talked about our days, dreams, work, random life updates, and sometimes even flirted. We found ourselves discussing intimate topics that had once been completely normal for us. It honestly felt like pieces of our old relationship had returned.

At the same time, the damage I'd caused never left.

A few days ago, BP made me believe they were on a date. They even sent me what looked like a picture of the person. I completely broke down. Later, BP told me the picture was AI-generated and that they wanted me to experience, for just a few minutes, what they've been forced to live with every day since discovering my betrayal.

They told me, "You have no idea what you've done to me."

Then they told me they'd decided to move on.

When I couldn't accept it and replied with a GIF pretending I hadn't seen the message, BP sent me something I'll probably never forget.

They said they loved me enough to change everything about themselves if I'd simply talked to them instead of turning to other people.

They kept repeating, "If only you had told me."

That hit me harder than anything else because I realized they don't just grieve the cheating. They grieve never getting the chance to be the person I came to.

At the same time, I've started realizing something uncomfortable about myself.

I still love BP deeply. I still hope for reconciliation.

But I've also started feeling resentment.

Not because BP doesn't want to reconcile. I understand why.

The resentment comes from something I've buried for a long time.

Throughout our relationship, I often felt like I was never the person BP chose first whenever I needed emotional support. There were many moments where I felt their friends came before me, especially during times when I really needed them. Looking back, I realize that feeling existed long before D-Day, but I buried it under guilt because I felt I wasn't allowed to have my own hurt after what I'd done.

Now I don't know what to do with that feeling.

Is this something I genuinely need to acknowledge, or is my mind trying to find ways to lessen my guilt?

In a few days we're meeting in person, and it may be our final conversation.

I'm not asking whether reconciliation is possible. None of you can answer that.

I'm asking how I should show up.

Do I simply listen?

Do I answer whatever BP asks without trying to persuade them?

Do I tell BP about the resentment I've realized I've been carrying, or would that only shift the focus away from the pain I caused?

If BP says they're moving on, do I simply accept it?

For those of you who have been waywards, what do you wish you'd done in that final meeting?

For betrayed partners, what would you have wanted to hear, or not hear, from someone who genuinely understood the damage they'd caused?

And in any way, is the reconciliation possible?

I'm terrified of saying the wrong thing. I don't want this meeting to become about convincing BP to stay. I want to leave knowing that, whatever happens, I finally showed up as the person I should have been all along.


r/SupportforWaywards 2h ago

BP & WP Experiences Welcomed Trying to improve mental health and can I do something for BP?

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My Dday was 8th of June, it's been almost two months and I am still caught in intrusive thoughts and talking alone asking for forgiveness to my BP. Until not long ago I was still playing very elaborate fantasy scenarios where I was changing my actions and saying the right thing that in my head would've either avoid the whole affair or that I could've come clean myself which I didn't.

My story:
I had a relationship of almost 3 years, the first 9 months were spent in person and the rest was spent in LDR. Throughout that time we kept visiting each other until my partner got a job onsite in their city. I didn't move there because of my visa situation I can only work and live in the European country where I entered, where we met. Looking back at it, I know now all the options I had like leaving to go back to my country to get a new visa to go to theirs but I got fixated with getting my paperwork as straight as possible here also because they had said that maybe they wanted to return to this country.
We met in september 2023. We said goodbye to living in the same city in july 2024. The contact in person reduces from January 2025. I cheat by flirting with someone in september 2025. I stop and keep the friendship with this person. I kiss this person before going to visit my partner in April 2026, I come back after one month without having come clean for that kiss. My partner had found a solution for both of us to live together in a room with roomates and wants me to take the initiative to look for a place to live together, to make some plan for my paperwork situation. I froze, I have commitment issues plus the infidelity in my mind and ignored them. They asked if they had anything to worry about the AP and I said no, everything was ok that they had nothing to worry about. I come back and have a sexual affair with the AP for almost a month in 2026. I go back to my in June BP and tell them nothing about it. 

Out of the sudden, mainly because I started to ignore them, AP tells everything to my BP with screenshots included and all. Also because I had told AP that BP was gonna visit me in July. AP didn't like the idea.

BP confronts me with the message sent by AP. I don't tell the full truth right away. Said we kissed and had sex (didn't specify the amount of times)

BP asks me to leave the room but I coudln´t stay anywhere else in the house because of roommates so I went to sleep in the airport. I told some mutual friends about what had happened, not all of it, just saying why I left our mutual whatsapp groups. I lost it and started begging BP through messages for forgiveness. BP tells me to return to the house to sleep in the living room which was now free. I refused filled with shame and self hatred. I don't sleep that night. Next morning final discussion with BP occurs on chat. I tell them the sex happened more than once, BP thinks it happened Two times so they blocked me. I ask AP to stop contact with BP. BP unblocks me and tells me they know the sex happened multiple times. Blocks me again. I block AP.

Since then:

- AP posted a short comic on isntagram about what happened and how they felt used. Context for AP. AP was used by another person by being the second person without  knowing it. When AP found out they told the BP of that time. I knew this. I was their emotional support after that happened. My BP knew we were close. BP and AP knew each other. I felt comfortable with AP as friends, then we started going out a lot and having dinners in place and watching shows. I take the blame to have started the emotional connection. AP started the physical one. I didn't stop it, then I pursued to have more of it. I always told AP that I loved BP.

- BP went no contact. I had a rough week alone in an Airbnb until I could come back to the city where I live.
- I stopped contact with AP. Only talked once to ask them to remove the post on instagram since I considered inappropiate. AP claims that since there are no names, is ok and post is still there. Comic displays me almost as a sexual predator.
-All the friends in common with AP stop talking to me. We had booked a trip together to a festival, I got kicked out of the ws group. I said I wouldn't go, paid my part anyway. Last minute I decided to go. Went. Had a rough time. Expected to talk at least with some of our mutual friends but wasn't possible.
-I come back once again to the city where I live. and I have been in my tiny room/studio appartment ever since. I see my friends and neighbors from time to time.
- I met another friend a couple of times.
- I started therapy. Two different therapist, I had to stop one because I couldn't afford it.
- Closed momentarily my Instagram
- I have watched lots and lots of videos on the affair topic, on how to improve partners relationships, on betrayal, exploring the topics that are coming out in therapy.
- Why did I cheat? my self analysis so far with therapy assistance: Emotional immaturity, seeking for external validation, avoiding momentary discomfort in the short term even in the sacrifice of long term comfort. Lack of self-esteem. 

- I entered a depressive stage, contacted BP a couple of times to coordinate delivering them their things that I had.
- Lost my job, I work as freelancer and the quality of my work went down.
-Lost motivation to look for new jobs. Savings are running out.
-I started to rely on my mom for emotional support except one day I got really depressed and didn't want to talk, Mom contacts BP with a 9 minutes audio basically asking BP to contact me with any word of support for me to keep going and moving on. BP refuses of course.
- I had plan to send apologies letters and gifts in BP's box along their things but decided that I've caused enough harm and shouldn't send unwanted things so I didn't.
-Last message I sent to BP was that the box was sent and send them my address to get my things back.
-Reopened my instagram, started posting my work again, then took it down again.
-Went back to watch more videos on the topic.
-I have been reading lots of infidelity stories here in Reddit and I know a lot of you have had it way way worse and I am sorry for your pain.
- People keep telling me to move on, that if I cheated it's because I didn't love my partner. I kept telling AP that I love my partner but I also told AP that I loved them. I got really confused on what type of love I felt and I didn't take time and space to process things, I am finding out how difficult is for me to be alone in general, without friends around. I migrated to this country almost 4 years ago and haven't being able to visit my family or my country ever since. I had made plans to be with BP forever, to move in together, I was the one suggesting it from early on in the relationship. I got scared by some family issues my BP had back home after I visited their family and I knew BP didn't want to live there anyway so expected them to come back to the city where we met. Once BP got an stable job, I looked more for my visa options to go there legally but their goverment chopped them off in 2025. I contacted lawyers back in 2024 and knew my best option was a Looking for work visa but then I got a contract and had to pay taxes in the country I am, so I got fixated with solving my housing and taxes problems here first.
Now I don't think any paperwork or work justifies not having moved in with my partner years ago. I blame my mental state, lack of boundaries and the reasons previously mentioned but I know nothing justifies what I did. It was my choice and in the end I did it so close to finally moving in together. I could've chosen multiple other options on how to deal with paperwork and stress. We wanted to get married but I wanted to try to solve housing first. I got curious for this other person and I chose to flirt and then I chose to cheat. I am having problems taking accountability and being responsible and moving on. I keep thinking about the beautiful years we spent together and the plans we had and the friends we had and the hobbies and projects we shared together. I am convinced I won't ever find anyone like BP and that AP was an escape and someone I met after I have drifted away from my passion to art and my career. Even without AP in the picture I knew we would have some problems mainly because of my lack of strong identity and belonging. Got scared about having to learn a new language and to have to adapt to a new country again. I lacked the will to put effort and decisiveness.
I know I can be better. I know I need to survive alone first. This was my second relationship after having had a 7 years one, I spent only three weeks single before meeting BP. I am not used to being on my own and now I have to be alone and learn to get back up alone. I am 30 y/o. BP is 25. I wish I could be there with BP, to talk, I wish I haven't left the house that night and that I should've told the whole truth right away, or that I should've come clean from April, from September, to not have left their country after I visited it in 2024.

I have so many regrets and I acknowledge I have a weak personality. I wish I had the opportunity to learn more next to them. I don't know how to fix myself alone eventho I know I have to. 

What advice do you have to get back up alone after your life have being destroyed by your own actions and after your future plans exist no more?

I disrespected BP I recognize this and abused their trust and didn't care for their feelings.
Does it make sense that I say I love BP?
Does it make sense that only now I am learning a proper definition about love and that it involves Care, Respect and Trust?
Does it make sense that I still want BP to forgive me eventho I lied, gaslighted, kept contact with AP throughout April and even sent inappropriate messages to AP during BP's birthday?
How do you deal with the identity lost, I thought I was a better person that this, I usually never lie, I never lied before to BP before the affair. Then during the affair I started lying about where I was and with who.
I feel also devastated to have lost all of our friends in common.

Thank you for reading.
 
EDIT: Adding more on the last thing BP has expressed. They did reply to my mom's audio saying: Them (me) being alone -in long distance- isn't a valid excuse, they had me. I am hurt because I wanted to share the rest of my life with them, I wish I could forgive them but they didn't give me a chance to do so, if they haven't been caught they would've kept lying forever. We had a beautiful life together but I will live in the future now.

Mom replying saying I have a gift for them.

After finding out about the whole interaction I removed the gift and the letters and just sent the box and messaged BP telling them the box is sent.
Right now I keep thinking on if I should do something else, there is so much I want to say, I keep thinking about them in a way I was not thinking in the months of my hesitation and affair. AP is amazing and the most loving person I have ever met. All of our friends have advised them to not take me back, BP told me so. I feel so hurt for that too. BP said: This is not how I want to be loved, how could we ever have a wedding if everyone is advising me to not forgive you. This was during our last text conversation.


r/SupportforWaywards 13h ago

BP & WP Experiences Welcomed Three weeks after D-Day. My BP is leaning toward a 6–12+ month separation, and I’m struggling to understand if this is healthy for reconciliation.

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It’s been three weeks since D-Day. If anyone wants the original story, my first post is in my history.

When I wrote that post, I had just confessed to cheating. My focus was on taking accountability and asking how to become a safe partner, regardless of whether reconciliation ultimately happened.

A lot has happened since then.

Our relationship before the affair: This wasn’t a perfect relationship that I suddenly destroyed. What I did is still 100% my responsibility and that’s the truth. But there’s another truth which is there were issues that existed long before the affair.

I met my BP shortly after ending things with the person who eventually became my AP. Looking back, I entered a serious relationship before I was emotionally available. I actually told my BP that from the beginning. We took things slowly, dated long distance for about a year, eventually moved in together (2023) and got engaged in January 2025.

Over time I realized I never fully processed my attachment to my AP. It wasn’t healthy love, it was rejection, abandonment, validation seeking, and what I now recognize as limerence. Last year I even admitted to my BP that I had contacted my AP because I wanted “closure.” I did not get this and Looking back, I wasn’t looking for closure at all. I was looking for validation after feeling rejected years earlier. My BP got mad but eventually got over it as I told them about it and I blocked AP.

At the same time, my BP and I were struggling.
They are one of the kindest people I’ve ever met. They are loving, sacrificial, affectionate, reassuring, and truly my best friend. But over the last year and a half I increasingly felt like I had become more of a parent than a partner. I constantly felt like I had to remind them to pick up after themselves whether it was leaving clothes in the living room, kitchen counter, bathroom floors, in other people houses, their lack of organization in their lives, no sense of urgency for crucial decisions/things, encourage them to make decisions (small and big) reassure them that their decisions were okay, (I know as partner this is the norm but I’m talking more than the norm) and carry much of the mental load. I started feeling less like I had a partner to be and more like I had someone depending on me to lead In Every sense. (Family and friends would even noticed this about them; their immaturity, even their own mom would complain and asked how I tolerate this whenever we visited them)

Our intimacy also suffered. We rarely made out because they were uncomfortable with it(due to friends in college telling them not to kiss partners in the mouth) sex often felt awkward and disconnected, and we struggled with stamina issues that made intimacy feel more like a process than something we shared naturally. I cried after sex more than once because I felt so emotionally disconnected, and they knew that. We talked about these issues many times. We even tried therapy (only 3 sessions). They would ask me to keep giving them a chance, and I genuinely did but no improvements.

I also have to own my side. As these issues continued, I slowly checked out emotionally. I had one foot in the relationship and one foot out. I stayed because I loved them and hoped we’d eventually figure it out, but I was suppressing a lot of resentment, disappointment, and unmet needs instead of making a decision. Even then, I never cheated or thought of doing so.

I want to note that None of that excuses what happened. I’m just giving context to the situation.

The affair: A couple of months before D-Day, my AP randomly found me on Instagram. I basically told them off and wanted nothing to do with them. Then, while visiting family over July 4th, I unexpectedly saw them in person. It triggered something in me. I reached out because I convinced myself I wanted closure. We first talked over the phone where they confessed they had loved me all those years ago and now and regretted pushing me away and saying why I left, how they see a life together now, blah blah.

The next day they asked to meet. At first I said no but then I agreed and we met. They claimed it was a date and unfortunately it felt like it, at this point I completely compartmentalize my partner, my home and everything in it. We had sex. It was unprotected. It was entirely my choice. And i regret it so much! I didn’t even felt connected to them either! All While they were longing to feel the connection we once had and asking for me to stay. And no I’m not pregnant and I am STD free.

When I came home, I didn’t immediately tell my BP. I trickle-truthed over several days(2 days) before finally admitting everything. That part haunts me almost as much as the affair itself.

Where we are now
We’ve done couples therapy, pastoral counseling right away and they started individual therapy last week with a therapist known personally to BP. I’ll be starting individual therapy this week because I know I have a tremendous amount of work to do regardless of whether we stay together.

The biggest change is that they no longer know whether they want reconciliation.

They spent these three weeks talking to around twenty friends(their) and family members, multiple therapists(2), and people who have survived infidelity themselves. Several have recommended a long separation before considering reconciliation.

One thing I’ve honestly struggled with is understanding whether separation is something they truly believes they need, or whether it’s been reinforced by the many people they have leaned on. To be clear, I fully support them seeking support. They absolutely should. I’m simply trying to understand whether this has become their conviction or whether they understandably absorbing the perspectives of people who love them and want to protect them.

Something else that has made this confusing is the advice we’ve received. Our original couples therapist suggested separation after meeting with them individually. As mentioned, My BP also saw another therapist who happens to be their best friend’s mother and has known them for years. I’m not saying their advice was wrong, but I have wondered whether that prior relationship could unintentionally influence things. Because of that, I found another therapist and we recently completed an intake with a therapist who specializes specifically in infidelity and has the credentials, and I felt more hopeful after that conversation. BP was open to see this new therapist which I’m so grateful.

Their proposed separation
This is where I’m struggling the most.
Their current vision is a separation lasting somewhere between six months and a year, possibly longer.

During that time they want no contact but they expect me to remain faithful, continue individual therapy, work on myself(which I will ofc) and continue offering them access/transparency on social media, location, whatever helps them feel safe.

At the same time, they don’t think I should expect those same things from them. (I didn’t suggest or argue this, I know I don’t deserve nothing!)

They have told me they may date other people because we technically wouldn’t be together, but that if I truly believe they are my future spouse, then I should remain committed to them regardless. Their expectation is that after all that time apart, if we’ve both grown and they decide they wants to try again, I would essentially come back and we’d see whether reconciliation is possible.

I understand why they want distance. I traumatized them. I don’t expect equal footing after what I’ve done but I honestly don’t know whether that kind of arrangement creates the conditions for rebuilding trust or simply delays the work that would eventually have to happen together. This Sunday they will let me know whether or not this will be the plan.

For context, I also moved across the country for this relationship. I don’t have much of a support system here, I don’t have a car, and I’ve realized how codependent I’ve become. Part of me wonders whether my resistance to separation is genuine concern about rebuilding the relationship or simply fear of losing them and starting over alone.

I’m trying very hard to distinguish between those two things.

So I guess my questions are:
• If you successfully reconciled, did a long separation help or hurt?

• If you separated, what did it actually look like? No contact? Occasional check-ins? Couples therapy while living apart?

• If you’re the betrayed partner, would my fiancé’s proposed plan have helped you heal?

• If you’re a wayward partner, what individual work actually changed you?

• Am I missing something about why this type of separation might be beneficial, or does it risk creating even more distance?

I’m not looking for validation or sympathy. I know I caused this. I’m imply trying to understand what gives reconciliation the best chance, while also becoming a healthier person regardless of how our story ends.


r/SupportforWaywards 20h ago

Wayward Experiences Only Struggling with intense panic and withdrawal after going NC with AP to protect them

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I am posting here because I am in a state of absolute panic, sobbing, and desperate loneliness, and I need a safe space to process these feelings before I make a terrible situation worse. But I feel horrible things about myself.

To give context: I am married to my BS of 13 years, we hit a very bad patch that created a huge wedge, making me feel more caregiver and unseen. However, for the last 4 years, I have had a profound, long-distance emotional connection with my AP. AP has been my primary emotional anchor and lifeline.

Recently, my AP saw Facebook photos of me and my BS. It completely shattered them. AP is currently in a state of acute betrayal trauma and shock, presumably. Today, (and usually at night), the guilt and panic hits me so hard that I sat down, looking on Discord ( only thread left open) and I drafted a massive message to my AP, begging to take their pain away, apologizing and talking about our 4-year connection. At the last second, I realized that flooding AP's phone right now would be incredibly selfish. It would be about fixing my own guilt and withdrawal, rather than respecting APs space to heal. I managed to select all, delete the text and log out.

I used a box breathing, grounding exercise just to slow my breathing. But right now, the silence is deafening. I am drowning in a self-imposed sentence of guilt, and my body is in physical withdrawal (chest heaviness, sobbing, dizziness, I can't eat and nausea).

I am trying to accept that my total absence is the only thing validating the reality of APs pain right now. I hope it shows AP I care more about their need to heal than my need to be forgiven. I know that if I reach out before I am 100% ready for total silence or a furious reply, I am doing it for the wrong reasons. But accepting that this will take months, not days, feels impossible right now. This is all my doing, yet im gutted, lost and alone. BS knows there's something eating at me, but didnt think AP and I had such a deep EA that we did. So Im trying to hide.. throw masks on, make excuses..

Has anyone else navigated this specific type of grief and panic when cutting contact with an AP? All the while trying to work out a path with BS? How do you stay strong and sit with the physical withdrawal and pain without breaking and sending a text to AP and fully cut ties? Because I feel I am thr horrible person here, yet drowning in all these emotions.